What does Obama's election mean for Year Zero Pt. 2/TV Series? Obviously most of us here are extraordinarily happy, excited, and hopeful at Barack Obama's win last night - I for one am feeling proud to be an American for what feels like the first time in my life. But I was driving to school this morning, listening to Year Zero and it hit me - oh shit, what about Year Zero 2? Year Zero seems to come from Trent's anger and frustration with the state of affairs at the time YZ was all coming together. He's seemed very hopeful with the future lately with the prospect of Obama winning and I daresay that he's probably pretty pleased with the election results. Do any of you think that the prospect and feeling of hope that America might not have to suck so much balls will have any impact on the whole Year Zero thing? This applies to both the TV series and the second part of the album, assuming they were eventually going to happen. For the record, I hope not. It is, after all, fiction. Although honestly I could go either way - if Trent goes forward with future YZ-related projects, awesome. If he doesn't feel like it anymore for whatever reason (i.e. he feels a little more satisfied with the present state of affairs under an Obama administration) and decides to pursue other artistic avenues, that'd be bitchin' too. I feel like Year Zero stands on its own as a record; it feels complete. It's like the first Matrix movie or Star Wars Episode IV - fantastic in it's own right and able to stand on it's own, but not closed off from expansion and further exploration. http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,203139#msg-203139 Sat, 18 May 2013 14:06:15 -0700 Phorum 5.2.7 http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,1402546#msg-1402546 Re: What does Obama's election mean for Year Zero Pt. 2/TV Series? http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,1402546#msg-1402546 ShazGuy posted:
No, Obama winning the election should only fuel Trent Reznor's hatred for the American Government, it should inspire him even further. Ever since Obama won the election, I always have his image flowing through my head every time I listen to Year Zero. Obama is worse than George Bush in every way.
Err

Not much of an improvment =/= worse in every way]]> KrakenMan Year Zero Thu, 20 Sep 2012 09:33:17 -0700 http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,1402410#msg-1402410 Re: What does Obama's election mean for Year Zero Pt. 2/TV Series? http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,1402410#msg-1402410 ShazGuy Year Zero Wed, 19 Sep 2012 17:08:44 -0700 http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,1401181#msg-1401181 Re: What does Obama's election mean for Year Zero Pt. 2/TV Series? http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,1401181#msg-1401181 KrakenMan Year Zero Sat, 15 Sep 2012 03:54:40 -0700 http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,1396008#msg-1396008 Re: What does Obama's election mean for Year Zero Pt. 2/TV Series? http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,1396008#msg-1396008 mlangley020 posted:
Captain Molotov posted:
Obviously most of us here are extraordinarily happy, excited, and hopeful at Barack Obama's win last night - I for one am feeling proud to be an American for what feels like the first time in my life. But I was driving to school this morning, listening to Year Zero and it hit me - oh shit, what about Year Zero 2?

Year Zero seems to come from Trent's anger and frustration with the state of affairs at the time YZ was all coming together. He's seemed very hopeful with the future lately with the prospect of Obama winning and I daresay that he's probably pretty pleased with the election results.

Do any of you think that the prospect and feeling of hope that America might not have to suck so much balls will have any impact on the whole Year Zero thing? This applies to both the TV series and the second part of the album, assuming they were eventually going to happen.

For the record, I hope not. It is, after all, fiction. Although honestly I could go either way - if Trent goes forward with future YZ-related projects, awesome. If he doesn't feel like it anymore for whatever reason (i.e. he feels a little more satisfied with the present state of affairs under an Obama administration) and decides to pursue other artistic avenues, that'd be bitchin' too. I feel like Year Zero stands on its own as a record; it feels complete. It's like the first Matrix movie or Star Wars Episode IV - fantastic in it's own right and able to stand on it's own, but not closed off from expansion and further exploration.

Comrade, this type of behavior will not be condoned in the Socialist States of America. You will not be able to think for yourself, so to ensure the process from free-thinking to being handfed information that is not right goes smoothly, we will be interjecting ourselves in your healthcare and deciding what treatments you actually need. Along with redistributing your wealth to those unable (lazy assholes who make a living by fucking the government over) to provide for themselves and their 10 babies. Oh, and we will be removing all firearms from every citizen who has obtained them through legal means (but ignore those who got them through illegal means).

This plan is failproof as we will make you so dependant on our support that without us, you simply will not survive.

Have a good day and thank you for supporting the SSA (Socialist States of America).



Simply awesome.]]> MusicBrain Year Zero Wed, 22 Aug 2012 10:38:45 -0700 http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,1392762#msg-1392762 Re: What does Obama's election mean for Year Zero Pt. 2/TV Series? http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,1392762#msg-1392762
the war for the internet will be a big thing, as we're already seeing with the whole wikileaks, anon, lulz battles with governments running scared that all their dirty little secrets are now shared online for all to see.

controlling technology to silence the people and prosecute those who leak or share it will be a big factor in the next few years, rather than a weaponized war, it may be a war of pacifying leakers and hackers with indefinite detention without charge etc.]]> P45K Year Zero Thu, 09 Aug 2012 02:50:20 -0700 http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,1390632#msg-1390632 Re: What does Obama's election mean for Year Zero Pt. 2/TV Series? http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,1390632#msg-1390632 is Trent's band, after all...]]> KMOS92 Year Zero Thu, 26 Jul 2012 20:50:43 -0700 http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,1390006#msg-1390006 Re: What does Obama's election mean for Year Zero Pt. 2/TV Series? http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,1390006#msg-1390006 lordacheron Year Zero Tue, 24 Jul 2012 03:41:59 -0700 http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,1358031#msg-1358031 Re: What does Obama's election mean for Year Zero Pt. 2/TV Series? http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,1358031#msg-1358031
When Candidates like Romney and Santorum (or as I prefer to call him "Frothy") try to impose religious beliefs on people, while ignoring and sometimes even complaining about the separation of church and state, it makes me sad that they are furthering the American Nightmare, rather than the American Dream.]]> Ookami Year Zero Wed, 28 Mar 2012 17:36:07 -0700 http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,993765#msg-993765 Re: What does Obama's election mean for Year Zero Pt. 2/TV Series? http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,993765#msg-993765 verdeocean Year Zero Tue, 02 Feb 2010 22:51:03 -0800 http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,993386#msg-993386 Re: What does Obama's election mean for Year Zero Pt. 2/TV Series? http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,993386#msg-993386 Year Zero could have been a reality. I believe Trent envisioned the US of Year Zero as the trajectory we were headed on. While I don't believe Obama is the messiah the way some people do (or did) I think his being President is a step in the right direction.

The recent decision by the Supreme Court, however, is rather Year Zero-esque...

Corporate personhood wins big in US Supreme Court
[humboldtherald.wordpress.com]]]> RhettButler Year Zero Tue, 02 Feb 2010 14:28:24 -0800 http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,993001#msg-993001 Re: What does Obama's election mean for Year Zero Pt. 2/TV Series? http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,993001#msg-993001 monkster0421 posted:
So for those of you who are okay with no freedom, support Obama.

Would you kindly educate me on what freedoms you enjoy that I don't in my evil, socialist Sweden?]]> emildorbell Year Zero Tue, 02 Feb 2010 05:22:56 -0800 http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,971647#msg-971647 Re: What does Obama's election mean for Year Zero Pt. 2/TV Series? http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,971647#msg-971647 areo1391 Year Zero Tue, 05 Jan 2010 14:08:18 -0800 http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,969662#msg-969662 Re: What does Obama's election mean for Year Zero Pt. 2/TV Series? http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,969662#msg-969662 Captain Molotov posted:
mlangley020 posted:
As for Trent, he lost brownie points with me since that PETA ad he did.

I'm sure he's heartbroken about that. Someone wanna give him a hug and maybe some ice cream to cheer him up?

Gimme a fucking break. Of course PETA goes nuts sometimes, but there was nothing over-the-top about the ad Trent did, which was about cruelty to dogs.


I think the overall point is that PETA gets a little out of control quite a lot. Yeah, cruelty to dogs is horrible, but you don't have to work with PETA to get that across, is all.]]> monkster0421 Year Zero Sun, 03 Jan 2010 01:04:24 -0800 http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,969660#msg-969660 Re: What does Obama's election mean for Year Zero Pt. 2/TV Series? http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,969660#msg-969660 mlangley020 posted:
As for Trent, he lost brownie points with me since that PETA ad he did.

I'm sure he's heartbroken about that. Someone wanna give him a hug and maybe some ice cream to cheer him up?

Gimme a fucking break. Of course PETA goes nuts sometimes, but there was nothing over-the-top about the ad Trent did, which was about cruelty to dogs.]]> Captain Molotov Year Zero Sun, 03 Jan 2010 02:00:39 -0800 http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,969649#msg-969649 Re: What does Obama's election mean for Year Zero Pt. 2/TV Series? http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,969649#msg-969649 If you're going to hate FoxNews, then you should look into MSNBC. They're so far up the White House's ass it's unreal.
Person on the previous page [far too lazy to gather up all the quotes I'd like]: Trent Reznor has better things to do than hate people for personal opinions.
To everyone:
Because Trent Reznor seemingly spoke out against George Bush and his presidency doesn't make him liberal, Democrat or an Obama supporter. Many conservatives and Republicans were very unhappy with Bush as well.
As far as that whole "report fishy stuff" issue months ago, yeah, it's frightening. If you think about it, their idea of "disinformation" is anything that doesn't agree with what they say. I mean, really.
On another note, I love some of you. I got some great laughs. Page 6 in particular. You guys are well educated and I agree with almost everything you said.
So for those of you who are okay with no freedom, support Obama. In a few years, none of us will be here. The WWW will be a thing of the past. Better watch what you say!!! [My apologies, I try not to be a conspiracy theorist. Just trying to make a point.]]]> monkster0421 Year Zero Sun, 03 Jan 2010 00:09:46 -0800 http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,951437#msg-951437 Re: What does Obama's election mean for Year Zero Pt. 2/TV Series? http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,951437#msg-951437 k1dd1550n4nc3 Year Zero Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:04:08 -0800 http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,943979#msg-943979 Re: What does Obama's election mean for Year Zero Pt. 2/TV Series? http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,943979#msg-943979 waitingforthehalos Year Zero Thu, 03 Dec 2009 20:30:50 -0800 http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,941942#msg-941942 Re: What does Obama's election mean for Year Zero Pt. 2/TV Series? http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,941942#msg-941942 Accumulates many followers, gains their trust.
The end of his term would be a good time to stab the public in the back.

It's logical. That would be good fiction.
the moral could be to do not trust who is in power.]]> Buckit Year Zero Tue, 01 Dec 2009 21:43:55 -0800 http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,941326#msg-941326 Re: What does Obama's election mean for Year Zero Pt. 2/TV Series? http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,941326#msg-941326 machine of consensus has to be watched carefully by anyone who believes in free will.

What if Year Zero II was taking place in a final world, united in a final consensus, fully determined, and desperately ordered, predictable, and come to a certain state of totalitarian intellectual peace ?]]> AnKerbe Year Zero Tue, 01 Dec 2009 12:31:58 -0800 http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,940216#msg-940216 Re: What does Obama's election mean for Year Zero Pt. 2/TV Series? http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,940216#msg-940216 Kid IRA1 posted:
Nothing changes.

Sad but true, people are introduced into a new dream, a new leader whos royally and brutally still gonna fuck them in the ass, the only difference is now they gladly accept it, they even go out in the streets and waste their lives and intellect ! yeah obama fuck us!

In less vulgar terms.

Sheep still live in the illusion.
The wolves discuss with the lamb what theyre having for dinner.
Whats even scarier is that the vultures make the wolf and the lamb think theyre discussing what theyre having for dinner, naturally they dont even want to notice.]]> Slashher Year Zero Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:13:38 -0800 http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,940181#msg-940181 Re: What does Obama's election mean for Year Zero Pt. 2/TV Series? http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,940181#msg-940181 mlangley020 posted:

As for Trent, he lost brownie points with me since that PETA ad he did.

Yeah, what kind of commie cares about animals? Trick Question! AN EVIL COMMIE! THERE IS NO OTHER KIND!]]> dreamerm Year Zero Mon, 30 Nov 2009 08:44:24 -0800 http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,939775#msg-939775 Re: What does Obama's election mean for Year Zero Pt. 2/TV Series? http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,939775#msg-939775 Captain Molotov posted:
Obviously most of us here are extraordinarily happy, excited, and hopeful at Barack Obama's win last night - I for one am feeling proud to be an American for what feels like the first time in my life. But I was driving to school this morning, listening to Year Zero and it hit me - oh shit, what about Year Zero 2?

Year Zero seems to come from Trent's anger and frustration with the state of affairs at the time YZ was all coming together. He's seemed very hopeful with the future lately with the prospect of Obama winning and I daresay that he's probably pretty pleased with the election results.

Do any of you think that the prospect and feeling of hope that America might not have to suck so much balls will have any impact on the whole Year Zero thing? This applies to both the TV series and the second part of the album, assuming they were eventually going to happen.

For the record, I hope not. It is, after all, fiction. Although honestly I could go either way - if Trent goes forward with future YZ-related projects, awesome. If he doesn't feel like it anymore for whatever reason (i.e. he feels a little more satisfied with the present state of affairs under an Obama administration) and decides to pursue other artistic avenues, that'd be bitchin' too. I feel like Year Zero stands on its own as a record; it feels complete. It's like the first Matrix movie or Star Wars Episode IV - fantastic in it's own right and able to stand on it's own, but not closed off from expansion and further exploration.

Comrade, this type of behavior will not be condoned in the Socialist States of America. You will not be able to think for yourself, so to ensure the process from free-thinking to being handfed information that is not right goes smoothly, we will be interjecting ourselves in your healthcare and deciding what treatments you actually need. Along with redistributing your wealth to those unable (lazy assholes who make a living by fucking the government over) to provide for themselves and their 10 babies. Oh, and we will be removing all firearms from every citizen who has obtained them through legal means (but ignore those who got them through illegal means).

This plan is failproof as we will make you so dependant on our support that without us, you simply will not survive.

Have a good day and thank you for supporting the SSA (Socialist States of America).

As for Trent, he lost brownie points with me since that PETA ad he did.]]> mlangley020 Year Zero Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:20:22 -0800 http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,932689#msg-932689 Re: What does Obama's election mean for Year Zero Pt. 2/TV Series? http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,932689#msg-932689
I remain cautiously optimistic.

I would say that if McCain became president-and in all likelihood Sarah Palin before his first term was out-the ensuing clusterfuck to armageddon would certainly make the Album, it's sequel, and any visual serial laughably naive and optimistic.

We dodged a stroke/aneurysm shaped bullet, but we traded away more sure footing years/decades ago.]]> MrEratosthenes Year Zero Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:38:06 -0800 http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,821350#msg-821350 Re: What does Obama's election mean for Year Zero Pt. 2/TV Series? http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,821350#msg-821350 www.theonion.com]

just for laughs

he just made my hero list :P]]> sui Year Zero Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:53:45 -0700 http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,818341#msg-818341 Re: What does Obama's election mean for Year Zero Pt. 2/TV Series? http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,818341#msg-818341 emildorbell Year Zero Mon, 17 Aug 2009 07:24:59 -0700 http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,811270#msg-811270 Re: What does Obama's election mean for Year Zero Pt. 2/TV Series? http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,811270#msg-811270 theshadowstabber Year Zero Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:02:43 -0700 http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,810787#msg-810787 Re: What does Obama's election mean for Year Zero Pt. 2/TV Series? http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,810787#msg-810787 end rant]]> satjrsteele Year Zero Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:15:57 -0700 http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,809669#msg-809669 Re: What does Obama's election mean for Year Zero Pt. 2/TV Series? http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,809669#msg-809669 www.csmonitor.com]

an example of bush and obama BS
he can shut his own public records on day one in office, but he can not do this repeal ?
he's full of BULL that obama joker.

guess why he has not visited the netherlands yet.
and please note we are like great Britain co conspirators in wars of aggression
so why that threat ? why keep it in place ?
(to hide an international investigation ?)]]> sui Year Zero Mon, 10 Aug 2009 02:59:34 -0700 http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,809315#msg-809315 Re: What does Obama's election mean for Year Zero Pt. 2/TV Series? http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,809315#msg-809315 sui Year Zero Sun, 09 Aug 2009 17:47:57 -0700 http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,809003#msg-809003 Re: What does Obama's election mean for Year Zero Pt. 2/TV Series? http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?22,203139,809003#msg-809003 reset posted:
The point that is being made is that this is the first time an administration has ever called upon citizens to report other citizens on "fishy" speech. What if the Bush administration had asked citizen A to tattle on citizen B for speaking out on the war against Iraq? The media would have been in a frenzy!

Indeed, however the Obama administration is not asking for people to report dissent. They're asking people to report misinformation. Why? A stupid media war between Dems and Reps. They're just trying to get a bill passed and stop any misinformation from lowering poll numbers.


posted:
The majority of people find this odd and "creepy" that the government would ask for such information. It's been a few days and there has been no answer on behalf of Obama what they plan on doing with said information.

First part: When out of context, the concept is practically Orwellian, or YZ ARG-esque.

Second part:
See this: [www.cbsnews.com]

...and this: [factcheck.barackobama.com]

Exactly what I said in my first post.


posted:
For instance, what if you are put at the bottom of a secret list in the future to see a doctor? When they deem the value of your life at a later age is not worth the extra health care, since you are a "trouble maker" and have criticized the government in the past.

Private practice medicine, my friend. My best friend is a doctor and runs a private practice of his own, completely free from government intrusion, except for crippling malpractice insurance fees. It helps to keep the pesky government out of your hair. :D

posted:
Now I'm not speaking out against the government here at all. I'm just merely hypothesizing. If anything this kind of vague intimidation deters people from calling out the government on it's BS regarding the health care situation. I mean let's just start on how this is supposed to be paid for. If it costs a couple trillion dollars where will that money come from? If they don't raise taxes for the middle class and refuse to increase the federal deficit (which would be insane), it just doesn't add up.

I agree, the gov't really needs to get their shit together.

posted:
The point is there will be no health care reform. You are obviously blind and do not know the issues if you think this will improve things for the average person. The only person this will improve things for is if you are living in the gutter and live off government cheese. Hope I didn't offend any of you freeloaders...

Disagree, but it doesn't really matter, neither of us can see into the future. I guess we'll have to see what happens.

posted:
So to bring things full circle. This is very "Year Zero-esque" in the regard it is the government just getting bigger and bigger. More controlling. Gathering information, for unknown reasons. Turning citizen against citizen. Kinda like that 800 number eh?

I really wanted to avoid getting too partisan about this, but I don't think it's Obama or the Dems we really have to worry about turning citizen against citizen and gathering information for unknown reasons. Although, if Obama does end up going in a cripplingly authoritarian direction, you have full right to tell me that you told me so.

sui posted:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGuW2oTVkMY

LOL

information made simple...

edit for some obama white house news :P
[www.foxnews.com]
and yes it is fox :P

edit for other obama BS
[www.youtube.com]

My god, you've just referenced Fox News and Michele Bachmann, and presented the information as if it were reliable facts. Wow. I'm mostly speechless.]]> smittygecko Year Zero Sun, 09 Aug 2009 12:40:00 -0700