Lights on Europe Tour...

Lights on Europe Tour...

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12/29/08 6:27 PM
daalbarizer member No thanks. Joined: 11/27/07 Location: USSR Posts: 843	Well, I'll pray for Czech republic and Slovakia again... When he was here in 2007, he was full of 'big fucking surprise' and 'the fucking best crowd, we'll come back sooner than in 13 years' (NIN were here in CR in 1994 for the first time, and then they came back after long 13 years) so I hope Trent wasn't lying!
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12/31/08 2:32 AM
daTank member Joined: 12/31/08 Posts: 1	i hope that they don't forget about Silesia in Poland ... for egzample Katowice, Wroclaw, Opole ... 3 good placec to have a gig ... Prepared for large audience ... ;> Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/31/2008 02:32AM by daTank.
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12/31/08 11:25 AM
jarmania member Joined: 04/12/08 Location: Sheffield%2C UK Posts: 76	posted: come on seriously! i would love to see the light show as well but we can't expect trent to ship all the stuff here, for arena's the band won't sell out. that wouldn't be efficient. he'd be broke after that tour. we are bitching and about things which aren't even confirmed! (solo gigs without light? hell we should be happy if we get any solo gigs) we should be happy with what we get, and all in all it's still NIN playing! we shouldn't bitch around if we don't know what the shows are gonna look like. i'm 100% sure that trent is gonna put up a great show for us as well. and even if there aren't any lights, i kinda think it would be quite awesome to see the band kind of stripped down to its essentials. =) there isn't anything we really "deserve" and there is no reason to be "disappointed". hey we get shows (hopefully not only festival gigs)! be happy about it. let's wait...and hope for solo gigs. start complaining when the dates are confirmed and there aren't any solo gigs. i didn't want to offend anyone here, but i think we should stay realistic... While I agree with you regarding the cost of staging such a show, I still think a smaller version of it could be possible. Plus, we DO derserve to see it and why shouldn't we be disappointed that we won't be seeing the Lights show. Hell I've been a NIN fan for nearly 14 years now, so yeah I'm fucking disappointed. As someone who has followed Trent's work from here in the UK - until the With Teeth album hit our shores and the marketing machine finally seemed to kick in for us UK NIN fans, we used to get sweet FA (apart from maybe the odd late night showing of a NIN video on MTV!!) Oh and as for stripped down to their essentials for any potential European shows, God help us! While the track listing on the last tour was fantastic, the Apollo being filled with smoke and strobe lights for a couple of hours does not make a great show tbh - for a start couldn't see Trent or any of the band for most of it!! (although the abatoir lighting was a nice touch! ) I would LOVE to see NIN in 2009 and will be there regardless but I stick by my belief that us UK/European fans do get the bum deal when it comes to their actual stage shows.
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01/01/09 5:33 AM
Broken92 member Jim didn't fix it for me. Joined: 09/03/08 Location: Leeds Posts: 46	jarmania posted: posted: come on seriously! i would love to see the light show as well but we can't expect trent to ship all the stuff here, for arena's the band won't sell out. that wouldn't be efficient. he'd be broke after that tour. we are bitching and about things which aren't even confirmed! (solo gigs without light? hell we should be happy if we get any solo gigs) we should be happy with what we get, and all in all it's still NIN playing! we shouldn't bitch around if we don't know what the shows are gonna look like. i'm 100% sure that trent is gonna put up a great show for us as well. and even if there aren't any lights, i kinda think it would be quite awesome to see the band kind of stripped down to its essentials. =) there isn't anything we really "deserve" and there is no reason to be "disappointed". hey we get shows (hopefully not only festival gigs)! be happy about it. let's wait...and hope for solo gigs. start complaining when the dates are confirmed and there aren't any solo gigs. i didn't want to offend anyone here, but i think we should stay realistic... While I agree with you regarding the cost of staging such a show, I still think a smaller version of it could be possible. Plus, we DO derserve to see it and why shouldn't we be disappointed that we won't be seeing the Lights show. Hell I've been a NIN fan for nearly 14 years now, so yeah I'm fucking disappointed. As someone who has followed Trent's work from here in the UK - until the With Teeth album hit our shores and the marketing machine finally seemed to kick in for us UK NIN fans, we used to get sweet FA (apart from maybe the odd late night showing of a NIN video on MTV!!) Oh and as for stripped down to their essentials for any potential European shows, God help us! While the track listing on the last tour was fantastic, the Apollo being filled with smoke and strobe lights for a couple of hours does not make a great show tbh - for a start couldn't see Trent or any of the band for most of it!! (although the abatoir lighting was a nice touch! ) I would LOVE to see NIN in 2009 and will be there regardless but I stick by my belief that us UK/European fans do get the bum deal when it comes to their actual stage shows. Non of this is really relevant is it now, the gig is about the music not flashing lights. European fans do not get a bum deal when it comes to the actual stage shows, NIN put on the full stage show on the Fragility tour will all the light panels, they also did the full show at Reading and Leeds with the stealth screens and Trent wanted to do it in Birmingham at the re-scheduled show, he had a rant about it on stage but the Birmingham Academy was too small. You're passing comment on stuff you have no idea about, you don't know what the financial status of NIN is and how much it would cost to get the gear over here. And if you have to wait for the marketing machine to kick in for NIN stuff in the UK you haven't been working hard enough, don't wait for it to be given to you on a plate, go find it yourself.
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01/01/09 6:25 PM
RadiusProject member Joined: 05/19/08 Posts: 3	Personally, i agree its a shame that the show that TR has enjoyed putting on over in america wont be coming to our shores. Yes, its about the music. But do you spend the gig with your eyes closed? no, you watch whats happening on stage. if that happens to be a spectacle of live performance blended with visual technology in a way you're unlikely to see anywhere else, then thats pretty damn sweet. The olympics are about sports, but i still wish i could have seen the opening ceremony live. what tr/nin are currently doing is for me a unique and interesting live show, damn right im sad i wont get to see it. but if it bankrupts the band, maybe i can deal with missing out. what will be a fucking shame is if they only play festivals in europe. Ok, we've all mentioned the mud, rain, camping, shit view dilemma's but i think the main one for a lot of people is the damn cost! nin at reading cost an arm and leg with travel included, and they were one band of maybe three i wanted to see that year! 99% of the other headliners were shit, and i didnt have the money to go on a full weekend bender. this will be the same for a lot of people across europe! why pay up to £300/E500 for a WORSE experience when you can pay £30 for an amazing show? its only my thoughts on the matter, everyones gonna bethinking differently depending on their circumstances. when it comes down to it i guess we all just want the best we can out of this tour.
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01/02/09 3:44 AM
icklekitty member Joined: 11/27/07 Location: London Posts: 919	Broken92 posted: Non of this is really relevant is it now, the gig is about the music not flashing lights. European fans do not get a bum deal when it comes to the actual stage shows, NIN put on the full stage show on the Fragility tour will all the light panels, they also did the full show at Reading and Leeds with the stealth screens and Trent wanted to do it in Birmingham at the re-scheduled show, he had a rant about it on stage but the Birmingham Academy was too small. You're passing comment on stuff you have no idea about, you don't know what the financial status of NIN is and how much it would cost to get the gear over here. And if you have to wait for the marketing machine to kick in for NIN stuff in the UK you haven't been working hard enough, don't wait for it to be given to you on a plate, go find it yourself. Very well said. It's not like it costs very much to get to the US from the UK - cost me £215 to fly top Philadelphia, and $65 for the ticket. If you're really THAT fucking desperate (which I wasn't - I only went because my friends were), it's doable. We, as fans, don't "deserve" anything, and we've all been more than spoilt lately. Most other fanbases would kill to have this.
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01/02/09 10:18 AM
isali member human magic marker Joined: 10/19/08 Location: austria tirol Posts: 325	jarmania posted: posted: come on seriously! i would love to see the light show as well but we can't expect trent to ship all the stuff here, for arena's the band won't sell out. that wouldn't be efficient. he'd be broke after that tour. we are bitching and about things which aren't even confirmed! (solo gigs without light? hell we should be happy if we get any solo gigs) we should be happy with what we get, and all in all it's still NIN playing! we shouldn't bitch around if we don't know what the shows are gonna look like. i'm 100% sure that trent is gonna put up a great show for us as well. and even if there aren't any lights, i kinda think it would be quite awesome to see the band kind of stripped down to its essentials. =) there isn't anything we really "deserve" and there is no reason to be "disappointed". hey we get shows (hopefully not only festival gigs)! be happy about it. let's wait...and hope for solo gigs. start complaining when the dates are confirmed and there aren't any solo gigs. i didn't want to offend anyone here, but i think we should stay realistic... While I agree with you regarding the cost of staging such a show, I still think a smaller version of it could be possible. Plus, we DO derserve to see it and why shouldn't we be disappointed that we won't be seeing the Lights show. Hell I've been a NIN fan for nearly 14 years now, so yeah I'm fucking disappointed. As someone who has followed Trent's work from here in the UK - until the With Teeth album hit our shores and the marketing machine finally seemed to kick in for us UK NIN fans, we used to get sweet FA (apart from maybe the odd late night showing of a NIN video on MTV!!) Oh and as for stripped down to their essentials for any potential European shows, God help us! While the track listing on the last tour was fantastic, the Apollo being filled with smoke and strobe lights for a couple of hours does not make a great show tbh - for a start couldn't see Trent or any of the band for most of it!! (although the abatoir lighting was a nice touch! ) I would LOVE to see NIN in 2009 and will be there regardless but I stick by my belief that us UK/European fans do get the bum deal when it comes to their actual stage shows. you make all that "deserve"/"dissapointed" thing sound like trent owes you something. that's why i think it's not correct to say such a thing. he gave us an album, as a gift, he put out 3 records within a year...do i have to continue?? sorry but i personally think that there isn't anything we deserve. what some of us here deserve is a kick in the ass for taking everything for granted (--->the gift)
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01/03/09 7:01 AM
jarmania member Joined: 04/12/08 Location: Sheffield%2C UK Posts: 76	Just for the record, Trent owes me nothing! And the deserve/disappointed points were as a response to a previous poster... posted: Non of this is really relevant is it now, the gig is about the music not flashing lights. European fans do not get a bum deal when it comes to the actual stage shows, NIN put on the full stage show on the Fragility tour will all the light panels, they also did the full show at Reading and Leeds with the stealth screens and Trent wanted to do it in Birmingham at the re-scheduled show, he had a rant about it on stage but the Birmingham Academy was too small. You're passing comment on stuff you have no idea about, you don't know what the financial status of NIN is and how much it would cost to get the gear over here. And if you have to wait for the marketing machine to kick in for NIN stuff in the UK you haven't been working hard enough, don't wait for it to be given to you on a plate, go find it yourself. As for this whole statement, fair enough you're perfectly entitled to your view as I am to mine. As for the financial status of NIN, I would imagine that having putting out albums in the way he has done recently and with royalities coming from soundtracks, etc over the years then TR ain't too bad money-wise. And as for your comments about the marketing machine...please I was referring to any real 'mainstream' visibility which really didn't come about until the With teeth album here in the UK. And I don't wait for it to be handed to me on a plate as you put it, more often than not us UK fans have had to import from the US or elsewhere - a case in point I am sure you are only too aware of being a UK fan yourself! As for the suggestion about flying to the US to catch a show - great if you can afford it and an amazing experience to boot but as I'm not in a position to do that, that point really is mute. posted: Personally, i agree its a shame that the show that TR has enjoyed putting on over in america wont be coming to our shores. Yes, its about the music. But do you spend the gig with your eyes closed? no, you watch whats happening on stage. if that happens to be a spectacle of live performance blended with visual technology in a way you're unlikely to see anywhere else, then thats pretty damn sweet. The olympics are about sports, but i still wish i could have seen the opening ceremony live. what tr/nin are currently doing is for me a unique and interesting live show, damn right im sad i wont get to see it. but if it bankrupts the band, maybe i can deal with missing out. what will be a fucking shame is if they only play festivals in europe. Ok, we've all mentioned the mud, rain, camping, shit view dilemma's but i think the main one for a lot of people is the damn cost! nin at reading cost an arm and leg with travel included, and they were one band of maybe three i wanted to see that year! 99% of the other headliners were shit, and i didnt have the money to go on a full weekend bender. this will be the same for a lot of people across europe! why pay up to £300/E500 for a WORSE experience when you can pay £30 for an amazing show? its only my thoughts on the matter, everyones gonna bethinking differently depending on their circumstances. when it comes down to it i guess we all just want the best we can out of this tour. I totally agree with this statement. While it is all about the music for some people, when you're paying upwards of £30 to actually hear their music played live then I still stick by my view that it's wanting to get the best possible experience out of any upcoming tour. I'm sorry if some folks don't agree with that but hey, it's just one opinion among many!
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01/08/09 10:01 AM
nine_inch_nerd member collector Joined: 11/28/07 Location: Dutch Mountains Posts: 494	june 19th 2009 @ dutch festival
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01/08/09 10:01 AM
tezanova member Self-proclaimed genius Joined: 09/04/08 Location: Prague %28a place that st Posts: 22	daalbarizer posted: Well, I'll pray for Czech republic and Slovakia again... When he was here in 2007, he was full of 'big fucking surprise' and 'the fucking best crowd, we'll come back sooner than in 13 years' (NIN were here in CR in 1994 for the first time, and then they came back after long 13 years) so I hope Trent wasn't lying! That´s my cup of tea
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01/08/09 10:55 AM
LadyRedCrest member Gypsy. Joined: 04/13/08 Location: Georgia but I wouldn%5C%2 Posts: 597	nine_inch_nerd posted: june 19th 2009 @ dutch festival Wait, is this something the festival has said or your wish list?
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01/08/09 11:31 AM
pukkelpop member needs a fairy tale Joined: 09/04/08 Location: Belgium Posts: 923	LadyRedCrest posted: nine_inch_nerd posted: june 19th 2009 @ dutch festival Wait, is this something the festival has said or your wish list? he just speculates to forget his exams....
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01/09/09 8:33 AM
joeratter89 member Joined: 01/09/09 Posts: 4	Is there much / any difference between the US lights in the sky lighting and what they had in europe for 2007? Oh and this, though sound is bad there. Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/09/2009 08:35AM by joeratter89.
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01/09/09 9:46 AM
icklekitty member Joined: 11/27/07 Location: London Posts: 919	joeratter89 posted: Is there much / any difference between the US lights in the sky lighting and what they had in europe for 2007? Oh and this, though sound is bad there. Loads of difference - for one, those videos you linked are only for the 2 month summer tour in 2007. The winter tour was literally some lamps. Also, the only lighting that was the same was the TGD/Me. I'm not lighting. In 2007 Only was a screen that they'd stand behind and you couldn't really see them that well, whereas in 2008 it had this whole choreographed James Bond thing going on. The 2007 show wasn't very "interactive" either.
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01/10/09 1:25 PM
XTRMNTR member set the pendulum Joined: 04/13/08 Location: belfast Posts: 890	but it still fucking rocked
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01/10/09 3:11 PM
icklekitty member Joined: 11/27/07 Location: London Posts: 919	Yes, definitely!
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01/10/09 2:15 PM
MoonlightBleeding member eats babies Joined: 08/15/08 Location: Houston Posts: 324	icklekitty posted: The winter tour was literally some lamps. Which I would have fucking LOVED to see.
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01/10/09 3:39 PM
XTRMNTR member set the pendulum Joined: 04/13/08 Location: belfast Posts: 890	jeordie and aaron swung them about all over the stage during help me im in hell / eraser
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01/10/09 6:37 PM
icklekitty member Joined: 11/27/07 Location: London Posts: 919	video evidences That was in an arena as well - worked quite nicely.
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01/12/09 4:30 PM
BARSI member Joined: 05/12/08 Location: UK Posts: 7	hope nine inch nails tour manchester again this year. plus hope they do both manchester apollo and arena would love to see that id go to both venues for the different feel. would be awsome. looking forward to see them in their newest formation this year. cant wait.
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01/13/09 8:51 AM
jmtd member Joined: 11/28/07 Location: Tynemouth Posts: 85	BARSI posted: hope nine inch nails tour manchester again this year. plus hope they do both manchester apollo and arena would love to see that id go to both venues for the different feel. would be awsome. looking forward to see them in their newest formation this year. cant wait. They'd never do apollo _and_ arena. I think it's a near-certainty they'll do the apollo, and very likely for two nights. If so see you at both (although I'd rather they did one night there and one further north, say, newcastle, instead )
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01/15/09 5:04 AM
TUBBY CHECKER member Joined: 09/04/08 Location: London UK Posts: 9	I wonder which venue in London they will do? They better not play download..... Reading Festival 2007 was fucking amazing By far the best show NIN did in the UK last year. Which is weird becuase I didnt think it would work at all before hand. They had the whole stage set up, lights, screens everything. If anything I thought it was a bit over the top. I had always wanted to see a proper NIn show with lights and screens and everything, it was great but some of it went a bit too far a bit over dramatic.....Pink Floyd, The Wall sort of thing. At one point Trent was behind virtual Prison Bars it looke a bit stupid/cool at the same time.
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01/15/09 7:26 AM
Si_2D member The Magical Si^ Joined: 01/15/09 Location: High Wycombe England Posts: 66	TUBBY CHECKER posted: I wonder which venue in London they will do? They better not play download..... Reading Festival 2007 was fucking amazing By far the best show NIN did in the UK last year. Which is weird becuase I didnt think it would work at all before hand. They had the whole stage set up, lights, screens everything. If anything I thought it was a bit over the top. I had always wanted to see a proper NIn show with lights and screens and everything, it was great but some of it went a bit too far a bit over dramatic.....Pink Floyd, The Wall sort of thing. At one point Trent was behind virtual Prison Bars it looke a bit stupid/cool at the same time. was at that show too was prob the best live performance i have ever seen. I think they should come back for 2009 reading headline again =] and maybe with smashing pumpkins again as that made my year both of them at reading on same day
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01/15/09 10:08 AM
createtodestroy member Joined: 10/21/08 Location: hoopeston Illinois Posts: 291	i wondered that too, i just recieved the uk version of with teeth because they have different songs on it, unfair, i would love to go see an international show, it would be awesome
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01/15/09 10:15 AM
pukkelpop member needs a fairy tale Joined: 09/04/08 Location: Belgium Posts: 923	Maybe change the topic-title, now that Trent announced it will be stripped down.. Just follow the real light...:
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01/23/09 7:56 AM
XTRMNTR member set the pendulum Joined: 04/13/08 Location: belfast Posts: 890	'lamps on europe tour'
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01/26/09 4:24 PM
thedownwardslip member Joined: 10/18/08 Location: dublin kingswood ireland Posts: 504	nine_inch_nerd posted: Other theory. NIN does Europe: - playing 4 gigs in an arena in London (for the UK). - playing 8 gigs in an arena in central Europe (Germany): Dortmund for example. That's it. No extra travelling for the band. People around Europe do the travelling! Just an idea.......... how could you forget about ireland,they pulled off a smashing gig in marley park two years ago and im not the only loyal NIN fan on this island,i know it costs alot to travel around but if it had to be low key i wouldnt mind
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01/26/09 4:39 PM
thedownwardslip member Joined: 10/18/08 Location: dublin kingswood ireland Posts: 504	ive noticed there are a hell of a lot of ppl on this forum that seem to be only be talking about uk dates and uk tour,since when has uk been all of europe,ill admit thats where they are most popular in europe but there are other places is well,for one they are quite popular in central europe and are popular in my native land the republic of ireland.
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01/26/09 4:49 PM
XTRMNTR member set the pendulum Joined: 04/13/08 Location: belfast Posts: 890	after marley park in dublin i have vowed to never attend an irish concert again - crowds are shit , arrogant and drunken arses are left right and centre - plus it was a fuckng foo fighters gig. i will be travellig to london & amsterdam for any future dates
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01/29/09 6:39 AM
icklekitty member Joined: 11/27/07 Location: London Posts: 919	thedownwardslip posted: ive noticed there are a hell of a lot of ppl on this forum that seem to be only be talking about uk dates and uk tour,since when has uk been all of europe,ill admit thats where they are most popular in europe but there are other places is well,for one they are quite popular in central europe and are popular in my native land the republic of ireland. Well people are most likely to talk about the countries they're going to see shows in. Most of the people posting so far have been from the UK, so surprise! most of the discussion has been about the UK.
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