2009 Tour Merchandise discussion
 
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09/05/09 11:30 AM

EDIT #2: after reading about the echoplex, i'm definitely not going to try to get specific merchandise for other people, sorry. not sure about merchandise for myself either. maybe if they happen to have an abundance. but i'm not going to stress out about it. that's my general concert-going philosophy . . .

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EDIT: i'm not going to guarantee that i'll buy anything. you can feel free to PM me with what you want, but you're better off asking someone that will try for sure. at this point, i'm worried about having to get in early just to buy merchandise and then ending up way in the back of the venue or in the balcony when i want to be on the floor. it's starting to feel like the only way buying merchandise would be worth it is if i do intend to make some serious money on resale. if things are surprisingly calm, or if i take a break midway through the concert and there's still merchandise, then i might buy stuff.

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i'm toying with the idea of buying and selling some merchandise to earn back some of the costs of going to the shows or maybe some merchandise for myself. i'm going to the fonda show. i'm looking for opinions on what to buy and whether it's a good idea, financially. i'm open to hear opinions on whether that's "not cool," but i don't want to clog the thread with that, so please PM if you want to talk about morality. (and it's not like i'm going to be buying a dozen of everything. just a handful of items, tops.)

anyway, it seems like there are a lot of people that want merchandise that won't be able to get it. and i feel like it might be worth it to give up a good spot at the concert or get there a while early to get stuff.

thanks!



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 09/07/2009 12:24PM by objectsession.

 

09/05/09 12:13 PM

I was in line for the Terminal 5 (8/26) show an hour before doors and by the time I got in the NYC specific poster was already sold out.

If anyone would be willing to sell (I'll pay more than $20) I'd be very appreciative.

 

09/05/09 2:51 PM

courtesy of an ebay scalper

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/544/bz1tbkwb2kkgrhgookjejll.jpg

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/6228/bz1tpqgb2kkgrhgookigejl.jpg

 

09/05/09 3:02 PM

Thanks for the pics. Nice colour, cool background image. damn, that is a nice shirt.

 

09/05/09 3:43 PM

I gave my shirt to my son and was so pleased to find one on e-bay listed at $30 for the opening bid. Seller doesn't appear to be a scalper, but maybe the one you've pictured is from a different seller.

I'm anxious to see what merch is available for the rescheduled Wiltern show.

 

09/05/09 5:34 PM

[quote Obakeyashiki][quote kg2wv][quote voices1]im curious is anyone has figured out what the 667 on the back of wave goodbye tshirt stands for[/quote]

i have not. there are some thoughts about what it is in previous statements in this fourm. if you find out please let me know.[/quote]

I think it is a W and a G mashed together sideways. tilt your head to the right and you can see the W below the G

perhaps it is a w and g. perhaps. a few mods in art forum contacted me with no definitive answer. seems such artwork would be documented, a book or a website pertaining to nin art through the years. i'll know in time.

 

09/05/09 9:51 PM

its a spiral.

 

09/06/09 3:15 PM

Hey anyone goin to these last two shows!! I am looking for two specific things, if anyone is willing to pick them up for me I will love you! I am looking for the echoplex hoodie and a nin tshirt, not venue specifc, and not the generic tour one (I already bought it at VFest). If anyone is interested, I will obviously send the money via paypal. But I am not sure if they are still selling this merch anymore. If you are willing to do this for me please PM

 

09/06/09 8:50 PM

Anyone else see the bootleg shirts at the Palladium? I feel horrible saying this, but I thought the one with the backprint of the "Wave Goodbye" square (on the tour page) was kinda cool. But I did not buy one. Nor would I have.

 

09/06/09 9:53 PM

Anyone know if they're selling buttons at the shows?

 

09/07/09 1:49 AM

Shirts for this show went QUICK! Rumor was spreading that some douchenozzle had purchased 30 of the Echoplex specific shirts. Granted the venue capacity was tiny, so the amount of specific shirts was likely smaller than the other venues. That said, let's give a big eBay-seller-fuck-off once the cache shows up for sale.

Anyhow, they are only selling the venue specific shirts, the overall tour shirt, a "beater," a girls black t-shirt, a city specific poster and the overall tour poster. No buttons, hoodies, satchels, or anything else. Typically it's cash only - unless it's a larger venue and then they take credit cards. You should bring cash money to be on the safe side.

Again, here's the quick reference for the tour shirts. Someone else will have to post the Fonda & Wiltern shirts as I'm unable to make the rescheduled dates.

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r110/soppingwetlabia/IMG_0779.jpg
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r110/soppingwetlabia/IMG_0780.jpg
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r110/soppingwetlabia/IMG_0781.jpg
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r110/soppingwetlabia/IMG_0811.jpg

 

09/07/09 2:19 AM

I saw one douchebag buy like 10 echoplex and Im sure he wasnt the only one! I was about 3 people away when they ran out sad smiley

 

09/07/09 2:27 AM

If anyone has a spare echoplex shirt in 2x id gladly buy it that douche bought like 30 shirts right in front of me and fucked us all over in line.

 

09/07/09 9:25 AM

Ok with the deck shuffle of the last 3 shows, I know lots of folks are scrambling to even be able to get to the 3 shows in LA that got affected by the shuffle.. and probably not thinking of memorabilia at this point. But here is one last favor to ask if I may.

Trying to get nice pictures of ALL of the Venue Specific shirts. Tried to pull some off of Ebay, but they are looking pretty half-assed. If anyone can get a nice straight picture of their venue specific shirt for me I'd be grateful.

Trying to get:
1. A nice FULL FRONT picture of the shirt with the NIN logo
2. And a CLOSE-UP of the back text of the Date and Venue Information.

I scanned my 8-29-09 shirt, but it was kind of a pain. If anyone goes to that much trouble, I'd have more thanks for them then I could say in words. I'd like to get a nice gallery of all the shirts from each night to go in a special section on the NIN Historian site.

Also apparently their is a venue specific pin for the Palladium show, need a nice scan of this and any other venues that offer them. I did not see these for offer in Chicago.

I am also looking for Ticket Scans, Wristband Scans and Pin Scans from these Venues if they were sold.

I currently need:
8/26/09 Terminal 5 Ticket Scan
8/25/09 Terminal 5 Wristband Scan
9/6/09 Echoplex Both
9/8/09 Henry Fonda Both (when they take place)
9/10/09 Wiltern Both (when they take place)

Seeking High Quality SCANS of your "Wave Goodbye" Tickets and Wristbands. Pictures tend not to be nice and flat for posting to the web, but if you are able to send SCANS I will blank out your name if desired on your ticket and give you credit on the site for your effort:

What I'm seeking their is an Example is here: [www.theninhotline.net]

Always looking for the same High Quality Scans of ANY ticket, or Pass you may have for documentation purposes if their isn't one on the site.

Email scans to nin.historian@gmail.com
Thanks!

 

09/07/09 9:40 AM

sickboy1334 posted:
I saw one douchebag buy like 10 echoplex and Im sure he wasnt the only one! I was about 3 people away when they ran out sad smiley

enter said douchebag...

 

09/07/09 9:52 AM

thebends9 posted:
sickboy1334 posted:
I saw one douchebag buy like 10 echoplex and Im sure he wasnt the only one! I was about 3 people away when they ran out sad smiley

enter said douchebag...

This is really disheartening to hear. I'm all for trying to capitalize on opportunity.. but this is different. Real fans who clawed their way to even get tickets to any of these shows and just want to grab one of these shirts- get the shaft. I guess I consider myself getting my ONE Aragon Ballroom shirt for myself and One for a fan overseas damn lucky. I had no idea how bad this would become- scalping show shirts.. its just low!

 

09/07/09 10:33 AM

nin_historian posted:

This is really disheartening to hear. I'm all for trying to capitalize on opportunity.. but this is different. Real fans who clawed their way to even get tickets to any of these shows and just want to grab one of these shirts- get the shaft. I guess I consider myself getting my ONE Aragon Ballroom shirt for myself and One for a fan overseas damn lucky. I had no idea how bad this would become- scalping show shirts.. its just low!

That is very low. Maye NIN should do up some more shirts and put them up on the website after the shows are over, which would make it less likely that anyone would pay the scalpers' prices. I bet more than a few people missed out for a variety of reasons.

 

09/07/09 12:53 PM

I know there's a picture of the guy with the design shaved into his head that bought 30 some odd shirts. Can you post this pic so we can make sure he doesn't get any from the future shows?

 

09/07/09 2:39 PM

i wasn't going to reply regarding the echoplex t-shirt deal, but a lot of people are saying blame the people at the merchandise booth (especially on the echoplex thread which i can't post in). i think this is kind of unfair. aren't they just salespeople? i mean, their job is to sell t-shirts, right? that's all they get paid for. they shouldn't have to worry about making sure all the fans are happy.

someone said the booth should take *some* of the responsibility. sure, maybe. but then so should the people that buy the overpriced shirts, nine inch nails, and all of us posting on the board and hyping the shirts.

anyway, i think the best option is to not stress out about it, no matter what the situation is. if you wanted a shirt and didn't get it, that sucks. but it shouldn't ruin your experience. laminate your ticket and wrist band and pin it to your back pack. seriously, i never thought i'd be so happy to own a free pin from the palladium show, but it's what i have, so i'm thrilled about it.

JaneNY posted:
That is very low. Maye NIN should do up some more shirts and put them up on the website after the shows are over, which would make it less likely that anyone would pay the scalpers' prices. I bet more than a few people missed out for a variety of reasons.

i agree with this. assuming that this would be economically feasible. and it seems like it'd be considering people are willing to pay way more than cost. i'd certainly be more tempted to buy one mail-order (for the concerts i've gone to) than wait on line and deal with the risk of them selling out.

 

09/07/09 2:58 PM

if the shirts will be available, they should only be available with confirmation of attendance. and a limit of 2 is entirely fair.

 

09/07/09 3:52 PM

Are there venue specific posters for the LA shows, or have they just been selling the one LA tour poster that lists all four venues/opening bands?

 

09/07/09 3:56 PM

substandard posted:
if the shirts will be available, they should only be available with confirmation of attendance. and a limit of 2 is entirely fair.

are you referring to online sales or at the venue. if you mean at the venue, i agree that might be good (i just don't think that the vendor should be blamed for not having that). i wonder if not starting merchandise sale until after the show ends (or somewhere in the middle of the show) would work. it's the situation i'd be most happy with as a consumer, and it should make things easier for the vendor, too, right? maybe there are some issues with having to close the venues, though . . .

but if online, why the need for a limit? it seems like that would just make the items artificially rare, which i think is the whole problem in the first place. the value of the shirts should be sentimental value (and construction quality), imho.

 

09/07/09 4:03 PM

but, in a way, there SHOULD be a limit. The Echoplex holds about 580 people? Make the limit 580 for that particular case then.

 

09/07/09 5:10 PM

dryerase posted:
Are there venue specific posters for the LA shows, or have they just been selling the one LA tour poster that lists all four venues/opening bands?

There were only two posters at the Palladium show: the one that says "Los Angeles" with the four venues (and the misspelling of the Henry Fonda Theater venue name) and the one that lists the NY, Chicago, and L.A. venues.

The merchandise line was so enormous at the Palladium that I at first balked at getting in it. Then I saw someone wearing the Palladium-specific shirt and thought that was cool so I got in the line to get it. By the time I was in the line that shirt was already gone so I ended up getting the one with the NY, Chicago, and L.A. dates on it (called the "tour tee" ). It wasn't until I got home that I realized the dates on the back were all wrong.

By the time the show was over all the posters had been sold-out.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/07/2009 05:13PM by ian22.

 

09/07/09 5:30 PM

marevalo posted:
but, in a way, there SHOULD be a limit. The Echoplex holds about 580 people? Make the limit 580 for that particular case then.

I agree. They limit the number of tix you can buy to try and reduce scalping, so they should also limit the commemorative merchandise as well.

But rather than limit the total number of shirts for a show they should limit each purchase to two shirts. This would keep the merchandise scalpers who buy like 10+ shirts from buying up all the shirts at the expense of those who actually attended the show.

 

09/07/09 6:03 PM

Would someone explain to me why it's apparently morally-reprehensible to purchase "counterfeit" tour shirts outside the venue?

I personally find it morally-reprehensible that the authorized "official" tour t-shirt costs $30 to $35, they know there's a printing error with one of them (wrong dates) but continue to sell the error shirts anyway without informing the customer about it (I realized when I got home from the Palladium show that the dates are wrong and then learned in these forums that the error was discovered in Chicago!), and the shirts themselves aren't even that great of quality. For a $30 t-shirt I'd expect it to be quality sweat-shop-free American Apparel where the laborers who made the shirt are fairly compensated, not the "Tultex" made-in-Pakistan crap (Pakistan? Really? The state sponsor of the Taliban? The country where bin Laden is allegedly still being harbored? And these shirts were actually sold at the NYC shows? Why is there no uproar?) the NIN tour shirts are.

I thought Trent Reznor really cares about the oppressed and downtrodden. Why not ensure that the NIN-branded merchandise is the highest-quality possible for the price, not the cheapest cost so as to increase the profit margin? http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3246/3042107255_130b19576c.jpg

I'm not even talking about the printing errors (the "Hendry Fonda Theater" on the poster and the wrong dates on the Tour Tee), I'm talking about the shirt quality.

When I go to the Wiltern this Thursday will I still be able to buy an error t-shirt and poster? Will the dates on the back of the Wiltern-specific shirts reflect the original date the show was supposed to happen or the rescheduled date? I'm sure they're already all printed.

 

09/07/09 6:03 PM

thx ian22!

 

09/07/09 6:47 PM

ian22 posted:
Would someone explain to me why it's apparently morally-reprehensible to purchase "counterfeit" tour shirts outside the venue? . . .

same reason that sampling music is immoral: because people are sheep.

i was actually thinking that all of this encourages me to buy shirts from outside the venue. but i'm interested in these shirts because i like the design, which isn't the case with most bootleg shirts (or official shirts). in the end, i'll probably end up just changing my computer wallpaper for the next few days . . .

 

09/07/09 7:44 PM

yeah its the same reason why people buy name brand soup when the off brand is made in the same factory with a different label. especially people on here. they want these shirts for a lot of reasons, design, officially from band, trent reznor may have looked at them before they were shipped, etc.

it would have been nice for all of the shirts to be available to all of the people but just like the actual show tickets that let you see the band you like they are not available to all.

 

09/07/09 7:53 PM

The main reason to buy official merchandise is so Nine Inch Nails gets the $$$ to allow Trent to keep making music, maintain the site, etc.

 
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