Re: 2009.07.18 - Istanbul, Turkey [Rock n Coke Festival]
 
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07/18/09 3:13 PM

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07/18/09 7:13 PM

the setlist was like a ''the worst songs of nin'' compilation. i hated it. the performance was ok, not ok fabulous. but the songs were just not right *dissapointed smiley*

 

07/19/09 1:34 AM

The setlist was as follows:

# Somewhat Damaged
# Terrible Lie
# 1,000,000
# Discipline
# March of the Pigs
# Piggy
# The Becoming
# Burn
# Gave Up
# The Fragile
# The Way Out Is Through
# Wish
# Survivalism
# Suck
# The Day The World Went Away
# Hurt
# The Hand That Feeds
# Head Like A Hole

The setlist was an expected "Wave Goodbye" one and it was great. The performance was awesome. Period!

 

07/19/09 3:23 AM

There was zero communication with the audience. Not even a hello???
Are all NIN shows like that?

And why did Trent leave in the middle of Fragile? He mumbled something that sounded like "you sing this one", spitted out some water and left for backstage. <sigh>

Me and friends wondered if there was a problem with the organisation.

Apart from that it was a good experience. (Even though my eyes went bad from the flickering lights and I had to close my eyes from time to time.)

The music is always good. I wish the mood was good too...

 

07/19/09 3:38 AM

I just checked the tweets. No complaints from Trent. Maybe it was just my over-sensitivity... We are only human afterall.

 

07/19/09 4:05 AM

diceyzenci posted:
the setlist was like a ''the worst songs of nin'' compilation. i hated it. the performance was ok, not ok fabulous. but the songs were just not right *dissapointed smiley*

This makes me really curious, what songs were you expecting!?

 

07/19/09 5:07 AM

I have finally lived to see the day when Trent doesn't placate so-so NIN fans. He played what the hell he wanted. He didn't play Closer. Trent astounds me. Most would say that Closer is the cornerstone of a NIN show. I'm so sick of Closer taking up space that could otherwise be filled by other less-heard songs. The Becoming was awesome. No complaints here. He doesn't usually communicate much with festival crowds, especially when he's not the headliner (slap!).

During the Fragile, the guy with the waterhose was spraying the crowd, so Trent yelled something like this:

<<This is the song that calms down the crowd. Dickhead.>>

That no one's fault except for the dumbass with the waterhose. There's a time for everything. Wish or Gave Up would have been much more appropriate.

If anyone here just happened to get a photo of my tattoo, PM me so that I can get a copy.

Overall not that impressed with Istanbul NIN fans. There were quite a few hardcore ones though. To them I say, "Spread Trent"

 

07/19/09 5:56 AM

The show was great but on the same day there was another festival in Istanbul. Paradise Lost and NIN were playing at the same time. Most of the scene people were at that festival. (especially to support some local bands.)Also,the previous Rock'n Coke organizations were much more better.(includinq food,prices,arrengements etc.)And I don't understand why they've changed the place. Although there are many good venues in Istanbul,the festival was held in that horrible place. Anyway,it was wonderful to see them live.

 

07/19/09 9:22 AM

NMA posted:
The setlist was as follows:



The setlist was an expected "Wave Goodbye" one and it was great. The performance was awesome. Period!

i don't like the overall Wave Goodbye concept, as a matter of fact. And the songs they played last night? Terrible Lie, Wish, Suck, Head Like A Hole... I'm fed up with these cliche ones already. I was expecting more 'With Teeth' or 'Year Zero' stuff, though i knew that it'd be a usual Wave Goodbye concert. But again i must say, this is about my taste.

 

07/19/09 10:55 AM

I agree, Wish is definitely a cliche song. But it gets the crowd pumped. I'd rather hear more WT and YZ also but what can I do about it. I hope he opens up his shows in NY, Chi and LA with Love is not Enough. That is the perfect opening song.

For now I must bid adieu to Turkey and it's lovely people. Later.

 

07/19/09 12:05 PM

They're not really going to concentate too much on any album when they're playing final shows and also since this is the first time for them in Turkey, they were always more likely to play songs that people would know. Though I though 'Closer' would've been one of them too.

To me it seems Trent preferes 'The Fragile' album over his others. Or maybe in recent tims he does from the set lists I've seen

 

07/19/09 2:18 PM

Everything was perfect!

The most amazing moment was Trent walking towards the end of the podium while singing "Piggy" and throwing the mic to the audience after chanting "nothing can stop me now" and getting back to the keyboards and allowing the audience do the vocals for the rest of the song...

In addition to this, I was mesmerized with all that crowd getting silent during "Hurt" and that brilliant performance echoing towards the sky of Istanbul...

 

07/19/09 2:59 PM

SardoNumspa posted:
They're not really going to concentate too much on any album when they're playing final shows and also since this is the first time for them in Turkey, they were always more likely to play songs that people would know. Though I though 'Closer' would've been one of them too.

To me it seems Trent preferes 'The Fragile' album over his others. Or maybe in recent tims he does from the set lists I've seen

Well, I guess it will be their first and last time in Turkey... At least it seems that way for now.

It's just that I've been waiting for NIN to come here for over 10 years now. That is insane, you know. 10+ years... And a mere 1,5 hours was of course not going to be enough. What was I thinking?

By the way, I enjoy every NIN album but Fragile always has been special for me. Ok, maybe I'm imagining things and I might be called insane after this entry... but to me, it feels like there's a story hidden inside that album somewhere. It feels too personal; it's like reading someone's private journal.

 

07/19/09 3:03 PM

For those who're interested... I have uploaded some photos of the show:

Nine Inch Nails / Wave Goodbye Tour / July 18, 2009

 

07/19/09 3:06 PM

dirtyorange posted:
During the Fragile, the guy with the waterhose was spraying the crowd, so Trent yelled something like this:

<<This is the song that calms down the crowd. Dickhead.>>

That no one's fault except for the dumbass with the waterhose. There's a time for everything. Wish or Gave Up would have been much more appropriate.

If anyone here just happened to get a photo of my tattoo, PM me so that I can get a copy.

Overall not that impressed with Istanbul NIN fans. There were quite a few hardcore ones though. To them I say, "Spread Trent"

So, that was the problem... Thanks for clearing that out for me. smiling smiley

Were you the one with a huge NIN tatto? No photos taken but you initiated a long conversation about tattos.

Why were you not impressed with NIN fans? What do NIN fans normally do?

 

07/20/09 7:24 AM

I've seen Nails before and ok, they werent as good this time and d?dnt play long enough, but they were still awesome. plus ?f they have never played ?n turkey before then surely ?t makes sense that they play the old songs, the songs that made them famous, to reward the true, ded?cated, hardcore fans, rather than those who jumped on board when they heard johhny cash s?ng hurt. to say that those songs are cl?ched ?s qu?te frankly r?d?culous and almost warrents sect?on?ng. you got to see n?ne ?nch na?ls for the last t?me before they d?sappear, we should all feel pr?velaged, and how many crowds HAS HE ACTUALLY GIVEN HIS MIC TO? my only compla?nt would be that the d?v?s?on of the crowd ?nto 'front of stage' (where ? was) and the rest seemed to ru?n the dynam?cs, there was very l?ttle mosh?ng (?f any) and too many people stand?ng w?th c?garettes look?ng d?s?nterested. ?n summary, though the show was Somewhat damaged, to say ?t was cl?ched ?s a Terr?ble L?e, you Suck, you ser?ously need some D?sc?pl?ne, you have a Head L?ke a Hole, and your words cause me great Hurt. I W?sh you would understand, but you Gave Up.

 

07/20/09 7:24 AM

To say th?s ?s a worst on NiN compilation-I really don't understand why you are a fan. You think that NiN's most defining songs are cliched? I am fairly sure there is no hope for you.

The crowd at this gig were abysmal. At the front of the stage where you actually had to purchase a special ticket to get ?n there you would think it would contain hardcore fans. Instead ?t was a load of people stand?ng stock still, never mov?ng or jumping or s?ng?ng along. Shouting for Closer and We're ?n Th?s Together. Ugh. I am sure some of you complain?ng ?n th?s thread were those exact people. Smok?ng a cigarette whilst standing around looking bored 4 rows from the front rather than moshing. Please never come to any gig's I might go to ever again you ruin the show.

The setl?st was great. I think end?ng on Head Like a Hole instead of Hurt or Lights in the Sky etc was strange but who am I to question Trent. The crowd thing was Trent complaining about the crowd be?ng hosed down dur?ng the Fragile. It was inappropriate but Trent also seemed to overreact.

The Prodigy headlined because they are a b?gger band in Europe than NIN. They tour relentlessly and have done for 20 years. They are also awesome they deserve to headline any show. Someone sa?d they don't th?nk the?r songs work live. I think you are insane. The m?ndblowing energy at a Prod?gy gig and the atmosphere created is amaz?ng. ?f you can't enjoy the insan?ty that is Keith and Maxim and the Prodigy on stage then you don't have a pulse.

 

07/20/09 8:08 AM

That may have been me who said that about The Prodigy and I still feel the same. I've listened and watched enough shows live to be put off seeing them and ruining how I enjoy their music. I don't have the tolerance to put up with Maxim and Flint shouting "waaaah" and "booo-shaaa" etc when they have nothing else to say (as in singing the songs). I think its annoying and for me, ruins the experience. Sure, they can't do much else so this is why they do it. The music is still good but for me its not the same. I'm not dissing the band for what they are creatively..

But I've seen far superior bands than The Prodigy, NIN being one of them. And at least in a crowd which appreciate the band. If I was Trent I wouldn't have even wasted my time, energy and money going to Turkey for their lame shows. This is coming from a Turk as well



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/20/2009 08:11AM by SardoNumspa.

 

07/20/09 8:46 AM

As an 'older fan' (not so hot on the material after The Fragile) I thought the setlist was decent. I would've preferred fewer (none) YZ/WT/Slip songs and I would've loved to hear Closer (first/last NIN show). But we can't all have our own personalized setlist. I had a great time nonetheless and I'm so glad I was able to go.

 

07/20/09 11:28 AM

SardoNumspa posted:
If I was Trent I wouldn't have even wasted my time, energy and money going to Turkey for their lame shows.

Glad you aren't tongue sticking out smiley

 

07/20/09 12:16 PM

Some people may have the chance to travel all around the world and see lots of festivals but there are some people here who have been waiting for these groups for several years (including me).. so please try to show some respect and keep your suggestions to yourself.. I dont think Trent needs them anyways smiling smiley

I was also expecting for them to play some of my favorite songs like the warning, only, zero sum etc.. but I cant say I am disappointed.. there are a few bands in the world who make music at this level and I got to see one of them live.. that should be enough for me to be happy smiling smiley

as for the crowd; I must agree with dirtyorange.. we must accept that NIN is not such a populer group in Turkey.. that is why the audience was just like I expected ; they could not keep up with the band..

 

07/20/09 1:18 PM

I think it was amazing enough to have them in Turkey. I could never even imagine them here. I absolutely enjoyed the show, setlist was awesome. The crowd was a bit disappointing unfortunately .. Gig was very short I thought it would be longer but still, it was incredible to watch them live in Turkey

 

07/20/09 2:41 PM

purplestain posted:
Some people may have the chance to travel all around the world and see lots of festivals but there are some people here who have been waiting for these groups for several years (including me).. so please try to show some respect and keep your suggestions to yourself..
<snip>
as for the crowd; I must agree with dirtyorange.. we must accept that NIN is not such a populer group in Turkey.. that is why the audience was just like I expected ; they could not keep up with the band..

I agree. We did wait more than many and we do not deserve to be treated with disrespect.

As for the NIN fans in Turkey. Yes, we are a small group but apparently we do exist.

Also, I have to point out that it gets very difficult to respond when the person on stage clearly didn't have any means to bond with his fans. You can call it the mediterranean blood or whatever, but as a nation we are pretty warm blooded and we prefer such behaviour.

Hence, if you have seen what Jane's Addiction did on stage, the way they tried to communicate and bond, you should also have spotted how people responded. And believe me, Jane's Addiction has far less fans here. I've had many people say they loved them and wanted to hear more of them afterwards.

(to ConorM)
Plus, we were indeed jumping/singing/dancing at the very front up until Trent went backstage during Fragile. That was when we kind of became quiet... Personally, it took me a good 15 minutes before I could start singing again. I was confused and very hurt at what happened but being the sheep I am, knowing that I will never have a chance to experience that moment again, I literally forced myself to enjoy the remaining minutes.

Yes I know, Trent is only human. But so we are...

 

07/20/09 3:55 PM

senem posted:
As for the NIN fans in Turkey. Yes, we are a small group but apparently we do exist.

Also, I have to point out that it gets very difficult to respond when the person on stage clearly didn't have any means to bond with his fans. You can call it the mediterranean blood or whatever, but as a nation we are pretty warm blooded and we prefer such behaviour.

Hence, if you have seen what Jane's Addiction did on stage, the way they tried to communicate and bond, you should also have spotted how people responded. And believe me, Jane's Addiction has far less fans here. I've had many people say they loved them and wanted to hear more of them afterwards.

Actually, I had the same disapointment as I was expecting Trent to interact with the auidence far more.. probably he is the most unique human being in all the musicians performing in the festival and he would have something original to say..

thats why I asked a friend of mine(from Canada who has been in several NIN concerts) to find out if that was spesific to us but I guess this is what Trent usually does lately..at most he would introduce his band..

yes, maybe it is normal to expect more interaction from a guy that expresses what he has in his mind from Twitter daily.. but it appears that this is his way on the stage..

 

07/21/09 2:48 AM

to Senem:

Thins is my 9th NIN show. I travel to all of mine. I have never driven to see Trent, I always fly. Everywhere that I've seen Trent there has always been moshing. Is moshing good or bad...I cannot say. It is a way to show and release one's angst. Do I mosh anymore? No. I like to stand and head bang, jump up and downa nd look like a epilieptic.

Yes that was me with the huge NIN tattoo. PM me with an e-mail address and I'll try to send you a pic from the show. I did not get this tattoo to be shown off at concerts. I got it for personal reasons. But seriously, only a few people even mentioned it. I did love Turkey though. I can't wait to come back for respite from Russia.

to Everyone else:

If you have postedon this site or if you're a member of this site, you are my friend. You all have gone that extra step and have included yourselves in this place of Trent-love. We all have so much in common. But we are all different. We all wanted something different from that show. We are humans after all. I'm just glad that it was different from any show that I've seen before. Every NIN show is slightly different.

Adieu Turkey.

 

07/21/09 5:14 AM

NMA posted:
SardoNumspa posted:
If I was Trent I wouldn't have even wasted my time, energy and money going to Turkey for their lame shows.

Glad you aren't tongue sticking out smiley

Yeah man, sorry about that. I posted when I was in a bad-ish mood. I just don't like it when a band (like NIN not just any band) doesn't the respect they deserve. And in a country like Turkey where the fan base is small you can't expect otherwise.

As for my statement on gigs in Turkey, this is what I have taken from friends and from what I have read. I'm 'fortunate' to live here in England as at least they have good venues for gigs.

At least you all got a chance to see them. Some bands only stick to certain countries but Trent's going all out on this tour. My sis was also at RnC and though she likes some NIN songs she said she had fun, as did her friends who aren't even NIN fans.

Peace out

 

07/21/09 5:21 AM

senem posted:
SardoNumspa posted:
They're not really going to concentate too much on any album when they're playing final shows and also since this is the first time for them in Turkey, they were always more likely to play songs that people would know. Though I though 'Closer' would've been one of them too.

To me it seems Trent preferes 'The Fragile' album over his others. Or maybe in recent tims he does from the set lists I've seen

Well, I guess it will be their first and last time in Turkey... At least it seems that way for now.

It's just that I've been waiting for NIN to come here for over 10 years now. That is insane, you know. 10+ years... And a mere 1,5 hours was of course not going to be enough. What was I thinking?

By the way, I enjoy every NIN album but Fragile always has been special for me. Ok, maybe I'm imagining things and I might be called insane after this entry... but to me, it feels like there's a story hidden inside that album somewhere. It feels too personal; it's like reading someone's private journal.

Yeah, I know what you mean. Its kinda hard to wait that long for a band you like a lot. Like I just said, I'm fortunate to live where I do since all bands come here and since England isn't really that big, its easy to get around (bands tend to play in bigger, easy to reach areas anyway). I feel sometimes a gig is never enough for me too because they just go so fast due to the fun you're having. I was close to actually going to RnC (as well as seeing family) but I'm glad I didn't as it'd have crippled me for cash. I've got Sonisphere to look forward to now though grinning smiley

But you guys got a good set list. Remember, a band who's never played somewhere will not go to album specifics but song specifics instead, mainly ones that people may have heard. I'm surprised 'Closer' wasn't played though..
And yes, 'The Fragile' is also my favourite. I can reflect with it more over other albums. Its also a bit more personal to me too. That's why I got Trent to sign that one grinning smiley

 

07/21/09 12:54 PM

Brilliant NIN. Perfect set list. A dream came true.
But I'll never go for a rock concert in Turkey again. The "fans" were ridiculous. Even in the "front of stage" place was...I don't know what to say but there was a fight because somebody pushed somebody else...Hellooooooo....That's a ROCK show, that's a NIN show. Of course the Turks who visit this forum should be not in this category but the festival sucked because of the audience.
Sorry for absence of "Hello, Istanbul!", "Turkey, you kick ass!" and "Let me see your hands in the air!" but if you expect this from Trent you're obviously do not have a clue about the NIN conception. This is not Motley Crue.
Don't get me wrong, Istanbul is magnificient and the turkish people are nice and kind but this night on this place this audience SUCKED!!!
Cheers to the fans from Iran!

 

07/21/09 3:58 PM

felly posted:
Sorry for absence of "Hello, Istanbul!", "Turkey, you kick ass!" and "Let me see your hands in the air!" but if you expect this from Trent you're obviously do not have a clue about the NIN conception. This is not Motley Crue.

I believe nobody in this forum was expecting such a fake attitude.. personally I would never expect Trent to show up a Turkish flag like Linkin Park did smiling smiley comparing to Linkin Park's show, what Jane's Addiction did was more valuable for me.. as they stated that their view of Turkey is not just from a movie.. unlike most of the americans..

As I posted above, Trent is a very unique musician and I was expecting him to reflect this on the stage with a few words that he could fit between the songs.. but no matter what I am more than happy that I saw them live..

 

07/22/09 12:21 PM

I echo the respect for the fans from Iran. Way to represent!

 
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