Once again - we played what we played because we wanted to - AND - to get this kind of reaction from this type of attendee:

[blogs.mirror.co.uk]

Mission accomplished. We're not a metal band and we're not trying to win over Metallica fans. If you get it, you get it. If you don't, you don't.

Loooved the set.I've always said how cool a completly mellow set would be. Was great to have such a emotional atmosphere. My brother was there for metallica and has only heard some nin from me trying to get him into it.i expected him to be disappointed but he loved the set saying how refreshing it was to hear. Loved the show just wish it could have been longer! Ah well can't have it all



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Hudson posted:

How cool was lollapalooza last year with the set list with so many ghosts tracks. TR is right either you get it or you don't. Never been to a festival atmosphere in the UK but judging from reading that blog don't think I would want too, come on Fred Durst? That hick from Gastonia, NC is good? Bad blog or I'm just an old asshole

Hudson - the blog is by the Daily Mirror, one of the lowest forms of 'tabloid' newspaper in the UK. I'm surprised they reviewed a metal festival at all

trent_reznor posted:

Once again - we played what we played because we wanted to - AND - to get this kind of reaction from this type of attendee:

[blogs.mirror.co.uk]

Mission accomplished. We're not a metal band and we're not trying to win over Metallica fans. If you get it, you get it. If you don't, you don't.

Just read that Mirror review. I consider myself a bit of a music snob. If I see that someone has shit taste in music then I really dont want to find out that they like any of the music that I absolutely love. The person who wrote the review in my eyes doesn't have a fucking clue and I'm kinda pleased they didn't like the performance. I went away from that show thinking yet again that I have experienced something special.

Trent likes to treat us over here, he has played a fuckload of shows in England, treated us to surprises such as Gary Numan and for this final UK gig did something more intimate. For the twats that called the song choices pretentious,(thats not aimed at anyone here) I would like to ask, what is pretentious about sharing your deepest feelings by singing your arse off? Trents voice was fucking awesome. If anything I think it was a brave move and another treat for the fans.

Thank you Trent

icklekitty posted:

Nobody showed their tits during the NIN set, so of course The Mirror hated it.

always a shame

Hudson posted:

trent_reznor posted:

Once again - we played what we played because we wanted to - AND - to get this kind of reaction from this type of attendee:

[blogs.mirror.co.uk]

Mission accomplished. We're not a metal band and we're not trying to win over Metallica fans. If you get it, you get it. If you don't, you don't.

Come back home, you could play Barry Fucking Manilow (not that you would) and I wouldn't bitch one bit

I couldn't have said it better.....

I'm probably way off here, but all this is making me think ARG at the moment (probably painkillers talking) - playing an exact setlist even though its slightly under the time, the fact that TR keeps swooping in talking about whether you 'get it' or not. I tried to make a phrase out of the first letters of the setlist, thought I could make 'twilight' but there weren't enough i's. I'm too dense for complicated puzzles like that! Need more meds

not havin it no way, i've seen afex twin put a 12" disk of sandpaper on a deck whilst his mate (mike pardinas i think) played a stylaphone over a drum machine and people were slavering that it was genius, just because it was aphex. people stand open mouthed at a monocoloured canvas scratching their chins just because it's by a certain artist, and i'm not telling anyone what they should think but to me a lot of people on here are seeing the emperor's new clothes. that set would have been mint as a prize u won in a 100 capasity gig soley 4 nin fans, that was not a festival set. how can u lose urself in the moment when u've got somebody's elbow up ur nose and the girl in front of u smells like she's shat her pants??? and the unpredictable angle doesn't work cos wish was there and... i wonder what they'll finish with? i'm not slating the performance at all, which was impecable, when he used that tamboureen on i do not want this was cool as fuck, it was the whole anti climax at the end, and the lack of anything 2 actually say goodbye at the end. i don't expect him 2 start crying and thanking the guy that cleans the bog on the tour bus and telling us we're the baddest ever motherfuckers etc.. just a simple thanks, goodbye, a bow and a wave. still my favourite band, maybe i'm a little simple and it all went over my head, maybe the little boys right- the emperor had his arse out.

just read that mirror article and whoever wrote that is an arsehole, some wanker at the green urinals said that about hurt and i nearly hit him



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trent_reznor posted:

Once again - we played what we played because we wanted to - AND - to get this kind of reaction from this type of attendee:

[blogs.mirror.co.uk]

Mission accomplished. We're not a metal band and we're not trying to win over Metallica fans. If you get it, you get it. If you don't, you don't.

I know I probably won't get a response to this but I thought I'd ask just on the off chance.

What kind of band do you consider NIN as Trent? It's really hard to allocate it into any genre other than just 'alt-rock' considering the many different genres your music overlaps into. I'd certainly view Broken as a pretty 'Metal' album but not the rest of your work. Industrial tends to be the one thats most often bandied about but I'm sure I've read some interviews with you where you've dismissed that tag?

malfunction posted:

Why do you need a tag? just enjoy the music

+1

'tags' (for serious use like criticizing bands for not fitting them, not for useful things like last.fm), political/religious labels/etc have caused much trouble in human history and the present. leave these alone. live in the truth, however you naturally perceive it through critical thinking of what you see and hear.

sadly, it is much simpler to categorize something complex so that we can fit it into a little 2nd grade cubby hole of our mind. here you go, nin, in the industrial bin you go. today, i feel like 'indie', so here come the shaky overbearing vocals and emo shit.

all labels, all terribly short-sighted.

A couple of photos from Knebworth

rocco666 posted:

it was the whole anti climax at the end, and the lack of anything 2 actually say goodbye at the end. i don't expect him 2 start crying and thanking the guy that cleans the bog on the tour bus and telling us we're the baddest ever motherfuckers etc.. just a simple thanks, goodbye, a bow and a wave.

maybe... just possibly... the music and how it was played, was the goodbye???

trents eomtion is obvious in his music, i'm not second guessing the guy, but i know I have problems saying emotional stuff... so maybe he left it for the music to speak instead???

I would never look to the mirror for a valid opinion on music.

Actually I would never look to the mirror for a valid opinion on anything.

trent_reznor posted:

Once again - we played what we played because we wanted to - AND - to get this kind of reaction from this type of attendee:

[blogs.mirror.co.uk]

Mission accomplished. We're not a metal band and we're not trying to win over Metallica fans. If you get it, you get it. If you don't, you don't.

Well, dude, it worked for me. Like i've said many times over, I couldn't have asked for anything more.
Don't fix what ain't broken.

and people just quit fucking bitching. one thing I can't stand about fans is their sense of self-entitlement. you're lucky a band created music that inspired you, moved you, touched you, whatever. you're lucky it exists. appreciate that fact. i, for one, live for music and with NIN, well, that's a void no band, not even TOOL, could replace in my heart.

SO STFU!!

music_food posted:

So Trent, you chose a set that you hoped would not be enjoyed by most of the crowd? Metal fans can be nin fans, so your intentions to alienate people, like myself, who paid money to see you, actually disgusts me. In the past I've understood and appreciated your philosophy on music, i wholeheartedly agree with giving music away. I don't expect you to give a fuck what I say, why would I after what you've just said. Maybe if this is how you see fans now (and it's important that you realise that not all your fans have to be hardcore and nin.com members), you should put nin on the shelf for now.

While I feel differently, I completely see where you're coming from. Good call.