Re: 2009.09.06 - Los Angeles, CA [Echoplex]
 
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09/07/09 10:06 PM

Oh Ill find the bitch tomorrow thats for sure. He is going down, is he going to risk trying to kick somebodys ass and get arrested or thrown out and not get in?

 

09/07/09 10:07 PM

Yeah I saw that dude. He went in a got all that he wanted, then he came back out again and dropped them off in his car. I specifically asked security before the show if I could get someone to buy me a shirt and them have them hand me over the shirt from the other side of the fence. They told me that once they were inside the venue, they could not come back out unless they wanted to leave the concert. His girlfriend waited on the other side for him to comeback from his car. See that is fucking bullshit. He must have some hookups with security if they allowed him to go in and out of the concert. There is plenty of blame to go around. He then left the concert not even halfway thru. Security gave some lame excuse that he was kicked out for his gf making out with another guy and he hit her, I never saw any marks. This guy must be stopped!

 

09/07/09 10:18 PM

that douche should be trolled hard.

that said, i was one of them lucky mofos in the beggar line and managed to go in. made my weekend especially since i had no high hopes of getting in coz of the venue capacity. met some great people in said line during the wait grinning smiley
noticed lots of disappointment...you guys have probably seen them so many times recently to feel that way, maybe. haven't seen them since lights tour nor listened to nails much, if at all, since a very long time ago til this week. so the past 2 shows have been probably the best i've gone to. especially last night even if trent fucked up a song, oh well c'est la vie. went from beggar to winding up 2nd row center half ways through thanks to the people pushing tongue sticking out smiley aaaand theeeen...this awesome couple i met and i ran into the band (-tr) backstage and spent some time talking to numan. unexpected amazing night smiling smiley

 

09/07/09 10:21 PM

bugatti posted:
PeedroPaula posted:
CuriousGene posted:
Badtz posted:
chirrio posted:
chaunc19 posted:
YurKissYurFist posted:
I am 100% sure this is the asshole that bought 20 shirts.

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what a DICK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think I saw him leave during the Health set, not sure though; though I know many were looking for him he was not to be found. As it relates to people buying 4,5 or 6 for friends, that is understandable, the person(s) who did this bought 20-30 shirts at a time. I was 200 back in line and went straight to the merch line and saw this jerk, someone took pictures of him I believe, buy 20-30 shirts and maybe 10 posters. This is a joke, my friend and I(and many others Im sure) wanted this shirt; small venue and the work we put into trying to score tix. To be denied by someone who doesnt even stay for NIN to come onstage is beyond anger.

Does anyone have pics of this d-bag so we can look for him at Fonda and Wiltern?

I made him an offer of $30, which I though was fair, but it was declined. So I asked the seller a question.

Dear ireekofawesumnes,

So you're the reason the merch booth was out of Echoplex shirts
when the rest of us got there? Are you also the douchebag who
didn't even stay to watch NIN's set?
I see you declined my offer of $30, which is what I should have
been able to pay last night at the show.
Let's all hope you choke on a bag of cock.

- curiousgene

I don't think he'll reply, but it's not like I'm really interested in what he's got to say anyway.




He may well reply. When he first listed Echoplex tickets at $2499 each, I contacted and him and told him that tickets were only available thru nin.com and that reselling for more than face was prohibted. He wrote back "Good thing I didn't get them thru nin.com". I contacted him several times to reiterate what a douche he was and he replied that everyone at nin.com hates him so I guess a lot of people did the same thing.

I love your message to him! I would have only added "big, hairy" to the bag of cock remark.

synthetik posted:
sickboy1334 posted:
On ets they were saying that we should either report the echoplex shirts on ebay counterfeit or stolen to get them removed. We should make it as hard as possible for that bastard to sell the shirts. The guy I saw buying up a lot of shirts had some kind of fauxhawk looking thing with designs shaved in his head. I saw someone take a picture of him I. Hopefully the are on the boards to post it.

Okay. I know who this guy is now. He was standing behind me in line (but slowly cut his way up the line about 8 or 9 people.) He was a big white guy. 6'6" probably 250lbs built with designs shaved in his head. His name is Michael and he's from New Jersey. The entire time he was saying "all i want to do is go buy some shirts and go to the bathroom."

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/2784/douche.th.jpg

This is the guy. He cut in front of me right before we went in, but I didn't say anything. I had been chatting with him earlier and I thought what the hell. What difference will it make if a couple people are in front of me? I was already over a hundred people back. Well apparently it makes a huge difference! My friend went to the merch line to get our two shirts and this asshole ended up buying 20+ shirts which are now on Ebay. So there is my shirt... for $200 on Ebay. They were $250 early this morning and he had 12 listed. So I guess someone is buying them. I really wish TR would do something about this. He also scalped ticktes to the show. I heard rumors that people scalping tickets on Ebay had their accounts closed, but I did not really believe that. At least they could limit how many an individual could buy at the last two shows so fans actually attending the event could have a shot at buying the shirts at a reasonable price. With as adamant about scalping as TR is, I can't believe that they do not do more about trying to limit this. Or at least print enough shirts so that everyone attending the event has a shot at getting one.

But at the end of the day, it is still just a T-shirt. At least that's what I keep telling myself.

Well, he responded.

posted:
Dear curiousgene,

good one...bag of cock...what are you 12? how did you even get into an 18+ show?

- ireekofawesumnes

So of course I responded back.

posted:
Dear ireekofawesumnes,

That's rich coming from a guy whose seller ID is
"ireekofawesumnes". Good job on the spelling, there, by the
way. Are you also awesome with awesome sauce on top, sport?
You certainly reek of something, but "awesumnes" isn't what I
was thinking of. You're a parasite. 200 years ago, you'd be the
sinister figure waiting at behind the lines for the battle to end so
that you could loot the bodies under cover of darkness. Your
soul is empty and you reek of decay.

PS - I notice the price went down. Having trouble moving your inventory? I see a lot of declined offers. That's a real shame.

- curiousgene

I have to admit, I'm not even that broken up about not getting a shirt. They'd probably have been sold out by the time I got up there anyway. But I can't pass up an opportunity to flame a luser. It's an unfortunate side effect of too many years on Usenet.

Lemme say, by the way, Ruiner was fucking amazing.

 

09/07/09 10:35 PM

Maybe we should band together and hopefully have the people in front of him buy up all the shirts? I would be game for that. And I would like to front some money for the cause in order to get a couple of shirts (2) and to make sure that fucking dick doesn't get shit. But in order for this to work, we need to trust those in front of him to buy the shirts and to sell them to true fans at the concert for cost. I wouldn't mind putting up 200 in order to get some shirts and give others the opportunity to get a shirt. I'll be scanning the line when I first get there and talk to some people.

 

09/07/09 10:47 PM

First, A Quick Thank You

Most of you know that i like to videotape these shows and upload them to YouTube for the community. There were some really cool people out there in last nights show who, recognizing that i'm "THAT SYNTHETIK GUY" made it a point to let me move ahead of them in the pit, let me rest my hands on them to get steadier shots, and helped keep the area around me a little less volatile.. all to help with getting the best videos possible. I just wanted to say thank you to all of those people... AND.... ENJOY THESE !!!!

Also, if you haven't already, feel free to subscribe to my YouTube Channel since I"ll be attending and videoing the last two shows as well smiling smiley



Most Recent uploads


Gone, Still (HD) - YouTube

The Way Out Is Through (HD) - YouTube

La Mer (HD) - YouTube - beautiful. worth checking out.

Non-Entity (HD) - YouTube

Physical (HD) - YouTube



Earlier uploads


The Collector (HD) - YouTube

The Beginning of the End (HD) - YouTube

Dead Souls (HD) - YouTube

March of the Pigs (HD) - YouTube

Discipline (HD) - YouTube

I Die You Die (live with Gary Numan) HD - YouTube

Metal (live with Gary Numan) HD - YouTube

Down In It (HD) - YouTube

Atmosphere (abandoned) HD + Trent Kicking Keyboard - YouTube

Somewhat Damaged (HD) - YouTube


Remaining to be uploaded:

something i can never have, the frail/the wretched, terrible lie, ruiner, head down, burn, gave up, the big comedown, wish, survivalism, head like a hole, hurt



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 09/07/2009 11:17PM by synthetik.

 

09/07/09 10:51 PM

synthetik posted:

Hey were you the pole cam guy? (If so, I was standing next to you for most of the show - you used my tshirt to dry off your camera when the water bottles were spraying around). At any rate, thanks for posting the videos. It was a great show.

 

09/07/09 10:56 PM

No. that wasn't me. I try to not be the guy fucking up the show for 15 - 20 people at a time, by blocking their view entirely.

 

09/07/09 11:06 PM

gary newman is my hero!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/12/2009 07:50PM by ariezgoddess.

 

09/07/09 11:37 PM

wow, I'm really glad you guys have IDed the DOUCHE. This guy was the first auction to go up for a scalped echo ticket as well, I harassed them over it back at the beginning. I wanted a fucking event shirt!

There's not much more I can say for the show that hasn't been said yet. I came in with zero expectations outside the awesome satisfaction that Trent decided afterall to throw some final smaller dates. After returning home from several ninja dates I had blogged/posted that perhaps a last round of dates would be a great idea for a final punctuation to the wave goodbye.

Didn't want to sweat the reality of the last minute changes bumping our show off of "last wave goodbye." I just was glad to be having the opportunity to make one last 1400 mile round trip pilgrimage. We could not have even made a single one of the other dates with or without reschedule.

The set was filled with moments of catharsis. It was a very unique collection. What defined it for me: Reprises of March into SICNH, Frail/Wretched, burn, head down, down in it/dead souls (done also at Phoenix date which was amazing). All the ones I wished to experience properly that I didn't from ninja dates -La Mer with the "finished/completed" intro (First heard on 6/3 with the song origin speech, as far as I could tell), Gone Still, Way Out Is Through... and finally the new experiences- Gary Numan & Ruiner.

The other songs were either ones I've seen MANY a time by now (Still enjoyed) or haven't enjoyed as much live (discipline, physical).

VampVertigo posted:
great energy, some talking and giggling early, some shhh's n stfu's dispensed, the "epic" quietness to the end of Hurt...the HEAT, the SWEAT, a sardine can in a microwave...

Left destroyed

This sums up my final thoughts. I was just dead by the time Numan was up or shortly before.

I myself threw out of the few of the STFUs. Can't understand why some people only want to respect/worship their own rock god when he's being loud. Show a little respect, or go have your conversation somewhere else. I guess this was my one expectation coming into the smaller venue show, so I was very surprised that people were still talking during piano intros or excessively yelling. It's not your fuckin solo time, it's Trent's time. We don't need to hear your ridiculous-ass scream-singing when it's totally inappropriate to what's going on in the music. Learn some inner dialogue as well. Some asshat ruined beginning of gone still- His literal, loud comment: "Buuuuuzzzkill. I can't believe that just happened." Right over the top of the fucking start of the song. I try to give people a break, but I was in shock at this level of stupidity. Seemed some kind of sharp response was requisite, but I just wanted to forget it and get into the song.

So all in all, it was a really cool experience that completely broke me down. Maybe it wasn't the most epic wave goodbye set to be seen (obviously since the downward fucking spiral has been played twice now) but for me it made for an awesomely intense final stand for a year of nin shows. SLC 9/3/08- to LA 9/6/09



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/08/2009 12:09AM by unknown_entity.

 

09/08/09 12:24 AM

I dont have a ticket as of now but I will go down there after work just to help kick his ass. I passed on the photo to someone I know that works with NIN so hopefully they'll pass the info down to the merch guy (Its been the same people doing merch the last two shows) to hold off on selling more that 2 shirts at a time or call him out in line for being a douchebag. He could be lying about his name being Michael or being from Jersey unless one of you saw his printed ticket. I'll bring a bat just in case to get it out of him...

suprefan posted:
Oh Ill find the bitch tomorrow thats for sure. He is going down, is he going to risk trying to kick somebodys ass and get arrested or thrown out and not get in?

 

09/08/09 12:29 AM

This was my 21st show. Been a long time fan since PHM and felt last night was a real treat and I feel very fortunate to have gone to the show. My girlfriend and I managed to buy tickets at the door. The whole experience seems surreal. I thought the band sounded great and totally destroyed the place. Down In It is one of my favs and was happy to hear it since it is one of the rarely played songs. They always destroy The Big Comedown and TDS has become a favorite as of lately. Enjoyed the long set list and leaving the club a sweaty mess took me back to my 20's.

Yes, I too was bummed I wasn't able to buy a shirt.

We stuck around to the very end and we asked by security to leave via the back door. Luckily, we exited right into the VIP area outside. Hung out for a bit and got to meet Gary Newman, Justin and Robin. All three were really great guys who were very friendly and talkative. I feel like we got our own meet and greet since we missed the chance on the first leg of the wave goodbye tour.

I shot the whole show on mini dv and will try to upload it to a torrent site soon, but I will need some help/instructions. I may mail out some copies on DVD to those who are interested. I'm busy the next week. So, please give me some time.

Also, we met some really nice people in line yesterday that made the experience all the more enjoyable. Tony you are a mad man. I thought I go to a ton of concerts but you put me to shame.

Can't wait for the Fonda and the Wiltern!!!

 

09/08/09 12:35 AM

My write up.

I accidentally threw out my wristband at my hotel....I called and made them go through the trash, fetch it, and mail it to me. They must think I am INSANE.

Quote of the evening- crazy guy pre show yells at us in line "you yuppie fuckers all suck! go get a job!".

 

09/08/09 12:41 AM

theCrown posted:
I can't believe you guys are complaining how hot it was in there. But I see that not a lot of you are from LA. A majority of the smaller venues here are like that and so I fully expected that. Glad to see people were taking care of each other too!

Too bad about the merch but I didn't even try. I stood right behind the soundboard and had a great line of site of Trent the entire time, and then Justin and Robin as the crowd moved.

I couldn't ask for anything more than a great show like this and having met some great people in line!


i agree as well that i have been to ALLOT of shows that was HOTTER than that .. although i didnt come in till half way through the show ..

and i know longer exposure makes it more unbearable ..

i truly feel like ive been to shows that i could almost die in .

 

09/08/09 12:44 AM

he never told me his name. I actually heard his gf call him that. and he had a new jersey accent. so it adds up. he also said the echoplex was his last show. so odds are you won't be seeing him at any other merch counters.

TheScenestar posted:
I dont have a ticket as of now but I will go down there after work just to help kick his ass. I passed on the photo to someone I know that works with NIN so hopefully they'll pass the info down to the merch guy (Its been the same people doing merch the last two shows) to hold off on selling more that 2 shirts at a time or call him out in line for being a douchebag. He could be lying about his name being Michael or being from Jersey unless one of you saw his printed ticket. I'll bring a bat just in case to get it out of him...

suprefan posted:
Oh Ill find the bitch tomorrow thats for sure. He is going down, is he going to risk trying to kick somebodys ass and get arrested or thrown out and not get in?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/08/2009 01:57AM by synthetik.

 

09/08/09 12:51 AM

Why is Gary Numan so difficult to spell?

 

09/08/09 12:57 AM

Techie714 posted:
That dude is pretty beefy it would take all three of those dudes to take him down I bet.

You should really see his haircut -- words cannot convey.

Also, yeah, he seems pretty jacked. I venture it would take 5 of your average, scrawny nin fan to do much damage. winking smiley

 

09/08/09 12:57 AM

also we were standing a few people away from Eric Wareheim! Of Tom Goes To The Mayor! Super cool dude.

 

09/08/09 1:17 AM

Drakh posted:
Techie714 posted:
That dude is pretty beefy it would take all three of those dudes to take him down I bet.

You should really see his haircut -- words cannot convey.

Also, yeah, he seems pretty jacked. I venture it would take 5 of your average, scrawny nin fan to do much damage. winking smiley

Or one Beefy Trent. ;-)

It's just a shame that a few people ruin it for everyone else...

I was one of the first 50 or so people in line, and my brother went and got our shirts...expecting that he would be losing his place to do so...luckily, he was able to get to where we were standing pretty easily...but I'm sure everything was fucked by the time things started filling in.

What annoyed me on the way in was that they only had one female security person and I lost about 10 spots waiting to be frisked... I even asked the male security guard if he could just do it... he said it was against the law. Oh well, things worked out...I was one spot back from the rail...the most challanging thing was the heat. I put on my echo shirt over my other shirt...so I was doubly hot...

THANK YOU JT for WATER!!!!! If we hadn't had sips of water through the show, things would have gotten pretty crazy with way more people being pulled out...

 

09/08/09 1:40 AM

Sorry to hear the douche won't be at the Wiltern. I wanted to get a big group together to surround him and chant "douche" until JT got TR involved.

 

09/08/09 2:03 AM

unknown_entity posted:
also we were standing a few people away from Eric Wareheim! Of Tom Goes To The Mayor! Super cool dude.
I wanted to "Spagett!" him

 

09/08/09 2:19 AM

Did anyone else notice that IRENE from the Real World was at the show ?

 

09/08/09 2:23 AM

Jamelie posted:
My write up.

I accidentally threw out my wristband at my hotel....I called and made them go through the trash, fetch it, and mail it to me. They must think I am INSANE.

Quote of the evening- crazy guy pre show yells at us in line "you yuppie fuckers all suck! go get a job!".


HAHA. I remember that guy. He was flipping everyone off on the other side of the bridge underpass. Even better though was the collective "booo" everyone gave him.

 

09/08/09 3:38 AM

b-ill-one posted:
This was my 21st show. Been a long time fan since PHM and felt last night was a real treat and I feel very fortunate to have gone to the show. My girlfriend and I managed to buy tickets at the door. The whole experience seems surreal. I thought the band sounded great and totally destroyed the place. Down In It is one of my favs and was happy to hear it since it is one of the rarely played songs. They always destroy The Big Comedown and TDS has become a favorite as of lately. Enjoyed the long set list and leaving the club a sweaty mess took me back to my 20's.

Yes, I too was bummed I wasn't able to buy a shirt.

We stuck around to the very end and we asked by security to leave via the back door. Luckily, we exited right into the VIP area outside. Hung out for a bit and got to meet Gary Newman, Justin and Robin. All three were really great guys who were very friendly and talkative. I feel like we got our own meet and greet since we missed the chance on the first leg of the wave goodbye tour.

I shot the whole show on mini dv and will try to upload it to a torrent site soon, but I will need some help/instructions. I may mail out some copies on DVD to those who are interested. I'm busy the next week. So, please give me some time.

Also, we met some really nice people in line yesterday that made the experience all the more enjoyable. Tony you are a mad man. I thought I go to a ton of concerts but you put me to shame.

Can't wait for the Fonda and the Wiltern!!!

Is that you Bill? You and Erika? If so, thank her for lettin me stay in front of you two at the end of show. That was a cool spot to end the show from. I want one of those DVD's too...ha! Great people, great show!
-josh

 

09/08/09 6:09 AM

Did anybody else see Jared Leto? My girlfriend got a picture of the back of his head. Then her camera died when he turned around. Oh well.

 

09/08/09 7:13 AM

synthetik posted:
No. that wasn't me. I try to not be the guy fucking up the show for 15 - 20 people at a time, by blocking their view entirely.
I saw in your vids, you actually captured him in a couple of scenes when you panned the crowd. Yeah I agree that his pole cam was very annoying and did block the view for some (including me at times). I hope he follows your lead and releases his video for those who gave up the live view so he could record (and hopefully share) with us post event.
Thanks again for posting your vids

 

09/08/09 7:28 AM

bugatti posted:
Did anybody else see Jared Leto? My girlfriend got a picture of the back of his head. Then her camera died when he turned around. Oh well.

Haha, my girlfriend saw him too. When she couldn't stay in the pit any longer she went to go get a drink and somehow wound up standing next to him.

Also, synthetik, thank you for the great videos. I was the guy next to you in the pit. Got home yesterday and have been resting ever since, but I'll try to go through my pics and videos tonight or tomorrow.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/08/2009 07:30AM by noir.

 

09/08/09 8:45 AM

pesquisa posted:
synthetik posted:
No. that wasn't me. I try to not be the guy fucking up the show for 15 - 20 people at a time, by blocking their view entirely.
I saw in your vids, you actually captured him in a couple of scenes when you panned the crowd. Yeah I agree that his pole cam was very annoying and did block the view for some (including me at times). I hope he follows your lead and releases his video for those who gave up the live view so he could record (and hopefully share) with us post event.
Thanks again for posting your vids

synthetik - awesome vids, thank you for sharing, and posting them so quickly!

The pole cam dude I'm quite sure is part of the NIN crew filming for a future NIN DVD/blu-ray release. He had laminated NIN ID/creds. I was near him for nearly the whole show and admit it was a little annoying especially when I was trying not to get bumped into him, but at the same time was understanding that this could be material that will appear on a future DVD release. I just moved out of his way so I could see the whole stage OK.

I counted 5 pole cams total. The other ones were more towards the back and sides and not in the middle of everyone. Besides, tripods/monopods were not allowed in the show (according to sources I read)...

 

09/08/09 9:03 AM

TheScenestar posted:
I dont have a ticket as of now but I will go down there after work just to help kick his ass. I passed on the photo to someone I know that works with NIN so hopefully they'll pass the info down to the merch guy (Its been the same people doing merch the last two shows) to hold off on selling more that 2 shirts at a time or call him out in line for being a douchebag. He could be lying about his name being Michael or being from Jersey unless one of you saw his printed ticket. I'll bring a bat just in case to get it out of him...

suprefan posted:
Oh Ill find the bitch tomorrow thats for sure. He is going down, is he going to risk trying to kick somebodys ass and get arrested or thrown out and not get in?

Googling his Ebay name will give you his full name.

 

09/08/09 9:20 AM

Michael Baltadonis according to dead.net via Google

 
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