Random YZ / ARG Questions
 
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09/08/08 10:58 PM

You know the drill: have a random question about YZ or the ARG? Ask here, nucca!

 

09/10/08 7:35 AM

Was Year Zero really just a future where george bush becomes a
dictator?

I read that, and it came off a little weird.

(I loved everything else, though)

 

09/10/08 9:07 AM

oh my god, shut up, don't say that!!!!!!!!!eye popping smiley

 

09/10/08 7:54 PM

Well,
it is true?

It is confusing because
everyone says ,"Capital G is
about George Bush, blah blah."
But the lyrics wouldn't make sense
if it is.
It isn't talking from
his point of view.
'he pushed a button/
and it dropped the bomb'.

So,
who is the president/dictator?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/10/2008 07:55PM by squeezit.

 

09/10/08 9:27 PM

i think it is not George Bush i think it is GOD, i don't know..... it could be both

 

09/10/08 10:49 PM

I get where your coming from,
but in the website
Hour Of Arrival,
the narrator has a flash-
back and specificly says
"Mr. President" at one point.

I just want to know if it is
in fact George Bush.

 

09/11/08 9:40 AM

I highly doubt that this song is about George Bush. I don't know where or what lyrics could have been heard make you think that?

 

09/11/08 10:59 AM

Capital G: "greed" is chanted throughout. 'Nuff said.

 

09/11/08 5:46 PM

good point, i've been listening to the song continually, i think we can obviously rule out GOD, because the lyrics say "traded in my GOD for this one" so, hmmmmmmm...

 

09/11/08 8:52 PM

I think even trent said the G stood for Greed

 

09/11/08 11:16 PM

Thank you very much
for clearing that up.

Then I guess it was bad press
spreading confusing things.

I think it was
3 or 4 articles
where I read that.

 

09/11/08 11:21 PM

Ummm, I was at the show in East Rutherford, at the Meadowlands. I just got into NIN like 3 months ago via The Fragile (kinda roundabout, I know), so I missed the Year Zero ARG stuff. Either way, during the electronic freak out at the end of Vessel, there was some picture that was quickly flashed, so no one could tell what it was. I looked at other live shows of Vessel and didn't see anything, but that picture was definitely flashed at the Meadowlands show. I'm curious if this is something new, or a part of the original ARG I missed.

 

09/12/08 7:53 AM

yeah!smileys with beer thank you very much,hmmmm, on the album review on itunes it says: that year zero is Trent Reznor's world on 2022, that is way to soon, i hope trent is joking, if it happens, i hope NIN it's still around so i could have some consolation...

 

09/12/08 11:00 AM

There was supposed to be a bonus track in the Japanese or Chinese version of YZ I believe, but it wasn't put on the cd due to it not having enough room or something, or some other flub while printing them.

Either way has anyone heard this track or will it even be released?? I'm dying for more YZ content:/

 

09/16/08 3:48 PM

Kid IRA1 posted:
Ummm, I was at the show in East Rutherford, at the Meadowlands. I just got into NIN like 3 months ago via The Fragile (kinda roundabout, I know), so I missed the Year Zero ARG stuff. Either way, during the electronic freak out at the end of Vessel, there was some picture that was quickly flashed, so no one could tell what it was. I looked at other live shows of Vessel and didn't see anything, but that picture was definitely flashed at the Meadowlands show. I'm curious if this is something new, or a part of the original ARG I missed.

Yeah, it was a misfire, it was a setlist according to lights - it showed up.

 

09/18/08 10:38 AM

squeezit posted:
Well,
it is true?

It is confusing because
everyone says ,"Capital G is
about George Bush, blah blah."
But the lyrics wouldn't make sense
if it is.
It isn't talking from
his point of view.
'he pushed a button/
and it dropped the bomb'.

So,
who is the president/dictator?

If you look at the background or year zero I believe cappitaol G is about a man named Gil, if you go to hhtp://Exterminal.net under the section Bardsely G theres a txt kind of session where they talk about a man named gil, they also refure to him as "G".

 

09/18/08 10:44 AM

ALSO!!!!!!

acording to the ARG, it says bush left office in 2008, years before year zero in commition. they never speak of the new president. I believe by these lyrics
"Well I use to stand for something
Well I'm on my hands and knees
Turning in my god for this one
and he signs his name with a capital G"

He's talikg about how he thinks the goverment is F**ked so he'll go to Gil or "G" as a leader.

From futhering the YZ ARG that Gil is the leader of founder of AIR (art is resistance).


but thats just my opinion.

 

09/29/08 9:44 PM

Does anyone know anything about the Angry Snarker?

 

09/30/08 8:44 AM

I don't know much about the Angry Snarker, but I DO know that creating multiple accounts birdchit96 is against the rules. I also know you've already created several multiple accounts before this, since I personally disabled them last night. Given this is your second infraction, enjoy your 5-day ban.

 

09/30/08 10:13 AM

Does anyone else heard about that broken iPhone found by a woman and a message? Is it true or is it just another fake clue?

 

09/30/08 1:41 PM

ghost51 posted:
Does anyone else heard about that broken iPhone found by a woman and a message? Is it true or is it just another fake clue?

If this was true, it would have been noted by a more credible source, not a disgruntled person trying to cause trouble.

 

09/30/08 1:32 PM

leo3375 posted:
ghost51 posted:
Does anyone else heard about that broken iPhone found by a woman and a message? Is it true or is it just another fake clue?

If this was true, it would have been noted by a more credible source, not a disgruntled person trying to cause trouble.

She was disgruntled as I've heard, indeed. Women chatting! So it is fake then, unless you didn't allude to me. Stranger things happened. Thank you either way for your kind answer.

 

10/01/08 6:13 AM

ghost51 posted:
leo3375 posted:
ghost51 posted:
Does anyone else heard about that broken iPhone found by a woman and a message? Is it true or is it just another fake clue?

If this was true, it would have been noted by a more credible source, not a disgruntled person trying to cause trouble.

She was disgruntled as I've heard, indeed. Women chatting! So it is fake then, unless you didn't allude to me. Stranger things happened. Thank you either way for your kind answer.

No, I understand that SB517 got hold of it.

 

10/01/08 6:40 AM

You cannot stop us all.

 

10/01/08 1:19 PM

ilostmyipod posted:
good point, i've been listening to the song continually, i think we can obviously rule out GOD, because the lyrics say "traded in my GOD for this one" so, hmmmmmmm...

Yes, but the rest of the line says "and he signs his name with a capital G." In the end, I think the meaning is meant to be ambiguous, because once a story becomes allegorical, the possibility of it meaning something to a future generation decreases dramatically (it becomes too tied to it's contemporary surroundings). That said, I lean more towards the possibility that the line alludes to religious absolutism; "my god" (lower case g) suggests that people can have their own personal deities and belief systems, where as "God" suggests that the deity in question is the only legitimate one.

 

10/01/08 2:44 PM

Well, the chant in the song has been confirmed as "Greed," so it's likely that that's what the G means.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/01/2008 01:45PM by leo3375.

 

10/01/08 1:51 PM

You know, for all the times I've listened to that song, I'd never noticed that chant! Thanks for the clarification -- I'll have to mull things over further . . .

 

10/01/08 5:41 PM

Just got my Year Zero CD...LOVE IT! Anywho, just wondering if that is Trent's pipe holding the gun on the inside jacket. Nice arm, and he is so awesomely buff these days. I'd love to think he is showing it off!! smiling bouncing smiley

 

10/02/08 1:11 AM

mopotts posted:
Just got my Year Zero CD...LOVE IT! Anywho, just wondering if that is Trent's pipe holding the gun on the inside jacket. Nice arm, and he is so awesomely buff these days. I'd love to think he is showing it off!! smiling bouncing smiley

I remember reading somewhere that he hinted that it is him with the gun.

 

10/02/08 6:09 AM

leo3375 posted:
mopotts posted:
Just got my Year Zero CD...LOVE IT! Anywho, just wondering if that is Trent's pipe holding the gun on the inside jacket. Nice arm, and he is so awesomely buff these days. I'd love to think he is showing it off!! smiling bouncing smiley

I remember reading somewhere that he hinted that it is him with the gun.

Great! Thanks for the lovely visual... <3

 
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