Demon Seed: Discussion, Lyrics and Artwork
 
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12/29/08 1:33 PM

My favorite song from The Slip. It's a shame it wasn't performed live.

 

02/12/09 1:57 AM

Doomguy13 posted:
Copy and pasted from other threads, cuz I'm lazy:

What the song is about to me: ""Demon Seed" is a very fun one to write about, but I don't know why. It shows how the hatred he has for life keeps growing and how he has been tolerating life and trying to behave himself. At the end, he finally knows what life is all about and he also knows what he is. He has this "seed" in him that makes him do things and he finally tells him to give up. The only reason he jumped off every rooftop and shot himself in the mouth and lived is this "seed". He is this "seeds" host and it lives off him, and since it lives off him, it sucks away his life, which is why he hates it so much, because he barely has any for himself. Unable to fight with the "seed", he goes back into the box he broke out of and stays there forever. He always wants to get out, but the "seed" makes him stay."

How it relates to the album cover to me: "I think the album art shows what "Demon Seed" tries to tell us. The man is trying to get away and make life better, but this "seed" is pulling him back from making any progress. Therefor, making him slip away."

What the art means to me: "Demon Seed: The art shows that (bit of explaining the song here too) the thing that keeps growing is the square. In the end, this man that "The Slip" may be about is fully protected by the red lines, but also from everything else."

I agree with your interpretation of the lyrics for the most part, but to be more specific... This demon seed I believe is a metaphor for the disease of addiction.We know that TR has struggled with addiction, maybe the Slip is a relapse. I am proud to say I am a recovering addict, and I believe that anyone else that has been around the tables knows what I mean. Please do not comment on recovery or the disease of addiction if you are an uninformed person.

As far as the artwork, I believe that the bottom box represents TR safe inside the echoplex while the red of disease and temptation that had invaded all of the other pictures is everywhere around, outside of the square occupied by TR.
Just a thought.
Any recovery people out here?? What do you think?

 

02/15/09 11:39 AM

yaywalter posted:
My favorite song from The Slip. It's a shame it wasn't performed live.

i so want to hear Demon seed live!!

 

02/15/09 3:25 PM

How about this for artwork interpretation, eh?
[www.flickr.com]



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 02/15/2009 03:34PM by TheKMNINMethod.

 

02/16/09 11:13 AM

Demon Seed is an amazing song, brilliantly arranged and sampled... it explains questions and it's like he has got a hold of this picking and picking and picking seed that always tries to grow and seep through his cracks ... The guys is still Fragile but growing stronger every day ... I can't explain it .... the picking will never go away ... EVER ... It's 20+ halos explained. (- Y_Z)

Now I know
What this is all about
Now I know
Exactly what I am


These is a seed
Inside of me
That makes me



Probably One of the most monumental NIN songs ever!

 

02/16/09 11:19 AM

P.S. thanks for this thread ... I think maybe I finally understand the CD Cover ?? That arm holding him back is the seed??

I also thought Drugs and Alcohol ... but depression must be in there too ....

(yea I'm a little late on this one I know)

 

02/17/09 7:23 PM

Substance abuse and depression go hand in hand.
The hand holding him back.

 

03/10/09 5:17 PM

Every time I listen to this song the words "Unwanted pregnancy" pop into my head for some reason tongue sticking out smiley

 

03/10/09 4:26 PM

It's the story of my fucking life right now angry smiley

If those words fell out of my head, it would be to say I'm going through so much shit, everywhere I look some fucker's got it in for me and it feels like I'll never get anywhere with anything. I've got so much I want to do and so much in me that needs to get out and be created, that I'm putting my neck on the chopping block constantly, and for what? Sometimes I really wonder why I fucking bother. People just don't fucking get it, do they? There's so much I have to put up with, because there's a drive inside me that makes me put myself in these situations, and I've had just about enough of it.

Not to say that I'm going to stop doing it. In fact, it means that now I know this is what I am, I'm going to live my life as a work of creativity, and a work of destruction. Everything that falls before me on my path through life will inevitably be altered by the fact it's come into contact with me. I've had enough of a passive life of frustration, I'm going to live deliberately now, and if I need to destroy you to do it, I will. It's what I am, and that's something that's indivisible. You kill the demon, you kill me with it. It's inevitable, so I need to make it work for me not against me.

 

03/11/09 11:35 AM

The personal meaning of Demon Seed to me goes hand in hand with the AIR movement which has also struck a deep chord in me.

Generally, though, I have a different perspective on it. It may have a lot to do with being out of the NIN camp for a while, and recently coming back and catching up with YZ/The Slip (which I adore- albums, concept, everything) as well as coming back shortly prior to curtain call. So....

Taking into consideration everything going on with NIN and Trent, I honestly see Demon Seed as Trent's relationship with the music industry. 'Tolerating' it for so many years with such disdain for it that grows year by year until finally having enough. This track breaks the formula for the typical NIN album like previously stated. It is significantly different, and I like to buy into the possible delusion that it was made that way for a reason.

The Demon Seed logo- Growth, development, and everything coming full circle in the end.

 

03/11/09 1:11 PM

thumbs up


I think it's an accurate description of channelled anger and I, for one, love it.



thumbs up

 

03/12/09 12:15 PM

DystopiaDave posted:
Every time I listen to this song the words "Unwanted pregnancy" pop into my head for some reason tongue sticking out smiley

Oh my god! pregnant trent!
This could explain the break, the "annoucement" he had to take.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/12/2009 12:16PM by johnny_ripper.

 

04/08/09 12:57 PM

^^^^ That explains the "seed" within him!

 

04/10/09 2:16 PM

I think the four boxes represent maybe something like Mind, body, spirit, heart (not necessarily these four). The open boxes perhaps represent that certain ones are exposed to corruption or something like that, while the closed one is always yours? I dunno, those are my thoughts..

 

07/23/09 12:42 PM

It's one of my favorite songs ever.

 

07/24/09 11:18 AM

HA! Just got an e-mail from Amazon.com letting me know that Dean Koontz' book "Demon Seed" is available.

 

08/12/09 9:55 PM

The song is literal. Interpret it literally.


demons

 

08/19/09 1:19 PM

I love that he ended the album with demon seed. The one thing that impresses me most is how Trent Reznor opens and closes albums. The most impressive one is probably With Teeth though, All the Love in the World and Right Where It Belongs were perfect for the overall mood and message of the album.

For the Slip, this is quoted from another thread:

1,000,000: He has changed after all these years but is still known for the self loathing stuff that NIN is associated with (That's enough for you but I still need more)

Demon Seed: Now he's accepting that they are one in the same and is now going to fuck shit up. NIN is the Demon Seed inside of him.

 

09/19/09 12:02 AM

Good song definitely

BUT

Ghosts 38 > Demon Seed.

 

02/14/10 3:19 PM

Demon Seed is probably the best song ever made by anyone period. You have to hear it on Vinyl to really appreciate it but oh man it is intense.


It keeps growing, and i can feel it breathe......

The part where he goes
"now i know, what this is all about"

Ive broken my hand and ive even been stabbed before and i never cried from either of those moments, but when i hear that part i start tearing up.

 

03/03/10 3:46 PM

it turns against you when your on a bad batch of mushrooms thats for sure

 

03/03/10 5:23 PM

I love this song but man it's overrated. I don't think it's all that nor the best Slip song

 

03/03/10 10:53 PM

Am I the only one that gets the mental image of like Trent kinda having a breakdown during the song for the majority of it. He's upset, but he's not sure WHAT he's upset about,..then around 03:05, everything turns into a blur and starts spinning (kinda like a bomb just went off) only for him to snap RIGHT back into reality and understand everything. Like an uprising within himself?

 

03/03/10 11:41 PM

sphoenix posted:
Am I the only one that gets the mental image of like Trent kinda having a breakdown during the song for the majority of it. He's upset, but he's not sure WHAT he's upset about,..then around 03:05, everything turns into a blur and starts spinning (kinda like a bomb just went off) only for him to snap RIGHT back into reality and understand everything. Like an uprising within himself?

That's a good interpretation

 

03/06/10 10:21 PM

[www.youtube.com]

sound 2 in that video reminds me of the loud synth noise during the song.

Maybe demonseed has something to do with OBE's?

kind of a stretch, sure, but who knows? ....

 

06/01/10 4:09 AM

I Love the song also. A confined rage that is coming to a head and breaking out.

 

07/27/10 1:43 PM

I agree with everyone that Demon Seed is the best song to end the album.I love it and Trent's vocals in the song and when he's singing very low and soft I love that part.

 

07/29/10 8:20 PM

It makes me think of the moment just before a Trent-tantrum. "Something's gonna get Broken!!"

 
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