Copyright question regarding The Slip

Copyright question regarding The Slip

05/05/09 12:51 PM
doublevine member Joined: 05/05/09 Posts: 11	Ok, I'm in a TV class, and our current project is to make a PSA, my subject is Drunk Driving. In this, the PSA plays back from a guy crashing due to drunk driving, and turns back to eventually the party where he gets wasted. In the party bit, we need some music, and this is where The Slip comes in. This PSA will play on a local TV network(where they broadcast High School and College video projects) so the music has to be free to use. My question is this: Because of the creative commons, can I use a song from the slip in the PSA, and if so, what kind of credit needs to be given? i.e., does the narrator need to say "music by Nine Inch Nails" or can we just have some legal copy at the end? Any help will be welcome!
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05/05/09 1:00 PM
scott_pawsey member Just zeroes and ones Joined: 09/03/08 Location: Ontario - Canada Posts: 4,226	Credit it to NIN, and don't use it for commercial gain.
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05/05/09 1:01 PM
doublevine member Joined: 05/05/09 Posts: 11	Ok, no money's gonna be made off of it, so that's cool, but like, what type of credit do I need to give? Is legal copy ok?
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05/05/09 1:13 PM
scott_pawsey member Just zeroes and ones Joined: 09/03/08 Location: Ontario - Canada Posts: 4,226	doublevine posted: Ok, no money's gonna be made off of it, so that's cool, but like, what type of credit do I need to give? Is legal copy ok? I guess. You also could trow in a "Music by Nine Inch Nails" text blurb at the end, nothing too huge.
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05/05/09 1:16 PM
doublevine member Joined: 05/05/09 Posts: 11	scott_pawsey posted: doublevine posted: Ok, no money's gonna be made off of it, so that's cool, but like, what type of credit do I need to give? Is legal copy ok? I guess. You also could trow in a "Music by Nine Inch Nails" text blurb at the end, nothing too huge. That is legal copy, sweet! No more GarageBand sound clips! Thank you for your help!
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05/05/09 1:43 PM
scott_pawsey member Just zeroes and ones Joined: 09/03/08 Location: Ontario - Canada Posts: 4,226	doublevine posted: scott_pawsey posted: doublevine posted: Ok, no money's gonna be made off of it, so that's cool, but like, what type of credit do I need to give? Is legal copy ok? I guess. You also could trow in a "Music by Nine Inch Nails" text blurb at the end, nothing too huge. That is legal copy, sweet! No more GarageBand sound clips! Thank you for your help! Ah, k. I was unaware. (forgive my stupidity there ) And no problem.
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05/05/09 2:42 PM
0001 member POINT OF ORIGIN Joined: 06/04/08 Posts: 293	What track you gona use? use Head Down!
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05/05/09 5:49 PM
pask member Joined: 11/27/07 Posts: 2,380	i'm in the process of covering the great destroyer with a friend of mine , using an original composition of mine [which sounds nothing like the original song], along with trent's lyrics, to be sung by my friend. if it works out, and we were to release it on an album which may or may not sell, what do i need to do for clearance first? granted, all credit for lyrics would be given to trent on the album itself & the file tagging, but what's the deal with getting permission to use the lyrics, and any royalties from possible sale of the release, etc.? it's planned for an original album of 20 songs, with only one or two covers, so it's not a tribute album or anything... Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 05/05/2009 05:51PM by pask.
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05/06/09 3:01 PM
maryelle member THAT is a big-ass lens-TR Joined: 05/07/08 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,147	RE how to credit use of The Slip: I believe that under Creative Commons, you not only need to credit the artist but must also note that the music is being used under the terms of a Creative Commons license. You can probably research this on Wikipedia to find out for sure. I don't think "Music by Nine Inch Nails" is enough. Re use of The Great Destroyer: I am not sure but you might need a mechanical license even to record just the lyrics. Have you checked Harry Fox? They explain all about mechanicals and give information on other types of licensing and where to go for those. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/06/2009 03:01PM by maryelle.
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05/06/09 6:14 PM
dori_doreau member pastafari Joined: 11/25/07 Location: berlin - germany Posts: 2,206	doublevine posted: My question is this: Because of the creative commons, can I use a song from the slip in the PSA, and if so, what kind of credit needs to be given? i.e., does the narrator need to say "music by Nine Inch Nails" or can we just have some legal copy at the end? Any help will be welcome! [wiki.creativecommons.org] posted: How do I properly attribute a Creative Commons licensed work? If you are using a work licensed under one of our core licenses, then the proper way of accrediting your use of a work when you're making a verbatim use is: (1) to keep intact any copyright notices for the Work; (2) credit the author, licensor and/or other parties (such as a wiki or journal) in the manner they specify; (3) the title of the Work; and (4) the URL for the work if applicable. You also need to provide the URL for the Creative Commons license selected with each copy of the work that you make available. If you are making a derivative use of a work licensed under one of our core licenses, in addition to the above, you need to identify that your work is a derivative work, ie. “This is a Finnish translation of the [original work] by [author]” or “Screenplay based on [original work] by [author].” Further recommendations and guidelines for marking works can be found at the CC Marking project.
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05/07/09 10:24 PM
pask member Joined: 11/27/07 Posts: 2,380	maryelle posted: Re use of The Great Destroyer: I am not sure but you might need a mechanical license even to record just the lyrics. Have you checked Harry Fox? They explain all about mechanicals and give information on other types of licensing and where to go for those. cheers for the link. when it comes to legalities of cover songs etc., i'm stumped. hopefully yhr site can help me figure it out before i fall into a lawsuit heh at the moment we're just experimenting, and if it actually works we'll go from there...
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02/12/12 12:35 PM
dagdromer member Joined: 02/12/12 Posts: 3	Hi everyone, first of all I'm sorry for brining this topic from the dead, but I was curious how the creative commons works. If I use one song from the slip of the ghosts for a short movie, can I submit my movie to festivals?
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02/14/12 9:05 AM
Sheepdean member Thug aim Joined: 11/27/07 Location: London Posts: 2,146	[creativecommons.org] If there is zero profit involved, including potential prizes in a festival, then you are allowed to. However, you can always contact Null Corp or Rebel Waltz for licensing if your needs fall outside this boundary.
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04/08/12 11:27 AM
projectepic member Joined: 04/08/12 Posts: 3	What about a kickstarter project
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04/08/12 11:27 AM
projectepic member Joined: 04/08/12 Posts: 3	What about a kickstarter project
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04/08/12 5:09 PM
Sheepdean member Thug aim Joined: 11/27/07 Location: London Posts: 2,146	Kickstarters make profit, you would need permissions for that
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05/17/12 3:32 AM
dagdromer member Joined: 02/12/12 Posts: 3	Sheepdean posted: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/legalcode If there is zero profit involved, including potential prizes in a festival, then you are allowed to. However, you can always contact Null Corp or Rebel Waltz for licensing if your needs fall outside this boundary. How can i contact Null Corp? I found mail for Rebel Waltz, but i can't find any contact for Null Corp. Thanks in advance.
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05/17/12 5:27 AM
Sheepdean member Thug aim Joined: 11/27/07 Location: London Posts: 2,146	With great difficulty (Rebel Waltz is really your best bet). Using [www.corporationwiki.com] , you can find the solicitors who are in charge of the general running of it, on behalf of Trent. But contact is not as simple as it is for Rebel Waltz, and they're unlikely to respond to anything that's not a major licensing or label request.
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05/17/12 12:40 PM
dagdromer member Joined: 02/12/12 Posts: 3	Thank you for your answer. SO, Rebel Waltz will probably answer? What are the odds that they will let me using the song for my short?
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08/21/12 7:23 AM
jmtd member Joined: 11/28/07 Location: Tynemouth Posts: 85	dagdromer posted: Thank you for your answer. SO, Rebel Waltz will probably answer? What are the odds that they will let me using the song for my short? I'd wager the odds were very slim.
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