the slip is underrated...

but ghosts is a powerful album and i'm glad it received the success amongst his fanbase that it deserved. it could arguably be his most personal album because it has the least definition, allowing it to make a home in new minds as it pertains to the moment the individual experienced it. it's raw, without borders, and demands that you connect the dots yourself, meaning it takes up its own residence in your mind. thus, he expands his identity by imbuing it upon new vistas. it is personal in the sense that you are forced to interact with it one on one and you have no choice but to make a decision right there... or just pass it off as abstact and without meaning. either case, he wins because he seems to only want to affect the open minded.

I can't see Ghosts as a pinnacle, because more or less TR is being doing this since the beggining; but maybe we can see it as the begining of something new; it's like the album put all togeather the texture of the music, the kind of experimental composing formula in each song, the graphic art, the amazing distribution mode... for me there are lots of components that makes Ghosts a place to learn; when I see all the new fancy bands on MTV trying to push for something new, my mind goes like "Thank god I love Nine Inch Nails"

And sorry for my shitty english

jeffreyzed posted:

the slip is underrated...

Amen.

As for Ghosts, I was blown away after I picked it up. It rubbed me the right way from the beginning, and there are some jewels in that album.

As for the Slip, I LOVE THAT ALBUM. I also like the hidden sounds, the textures of more ellaborate NIN material, but the raw element in the Slip is one of the things that drew me the most to it.

I like the fact that NIN is the incarnate of its last album. So NIN never remains the same. To nay-sayers that believe that Trent and NIN should've stayed in 1994 need to tweak their ability to listen to music. The fact that they've never stayed the same is the reason why they're still around. And why they still kick major ass.

well i would have to agree that album was genuis i do like the fragile my faviorate album is the downward spiral cuz of all the storys behind that album (not saying others dont) but the main thing i liked about ghosts it was instrumental any how i love trents voice i think this was a great album

i think ghosts was NIN masterpiece. so raw and visual. each track tells a story without a word. not an easy thing to pull off. the best music is made with no direction and just playing what ever comes to the head at that moment.

i love listening to this record when i just want to drift off,during the meet and greet in toronto i asked Trent if he plans on doing anymore Ghosts and he said"o yea man after this tour i plan on tour some more"

It's interesting and nice to hear somebody profess such high standards for the Ghosts album. I've never actually tried to consider it as Trent's definitive piece of art, although, as far as entire albums go, it just may be. The Fragile frequently gets pretty artsy, but the entire thing is practically a monochromatic package of anger and negativity. Ghosts feels much more like the musical equivalent of some kind of complex polygon. The entire thing was composed in ten weeks, and resulted in, I guess, Reznor's least mechanical work. The lack of vocals almost adds to it's beautiful ambiguity and taps into all kinds of raw elements. It's lovely.

On the other hand, I do feel like it suffers a significant dip in strength partway through. Ghosts II, mostly. To me, everything becomes mushy and indistinguishable, and not nearly as impressive. Nearing Ghosts IV, however, it makes a wonderful recovery.

Up until now, I've also considered The Fragile to be Trent's most creative piece. Although Ghosts is presently competing for that title rather fiercely, certain tracks on Fragile surpass any individual Ghosts song. Like, for instance, La Mer!



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When I found out that NIN were doing an etirely instrumental album, without named tracks, I must admit that the idea struck men as maybe being a bit pretintious.

Of course though as soon as I had listened to it through a few times the idea was making more and more sense, until it was evident that it was sheer genius and now ghosts i-iv is one of my favourite NIN albums

Thank god (or whatever power you believe in) that there was no record label at the time, because I don`t imagine for a second that record execs wouls have taken that kindly to the concept!