The Vinyl Thread

The Vinyl Thread

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09/26/08 4:06 PM
smemily member Joined: 09/03/08 Location: NM Posts: 831	That thing was about $1200 1982-dollars, has an incredible internal balance mechanism that keeps the needle as light and stable on the record as a conventional horizontal turntable. It can auto-detect and cue an EP vs LP. It's not a POS.
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09/26/08 4:48 PM
ishtmail Yes, quite... Joined: 11/27/07 Location: Slovenia Posts: 825	smemily posted: That thing was about $1200 1982-dollars, has an incredible internal balance mechanism that keeps the needle as light and stable on the record as a conventional horizontal turntable. It can auto-detect and cue an EP vs LP. It's not a POS. Don't know about $1200, but considering you can get it for 28 pounds on ebay (even though it's not working properly), or an auction ending at 33 €, and considering that it doesn't have any kind of coverage on the internet (most high quality vintage turntables have their followers), I dare say this was a failed experiment of Sharp's. I'll stick to horizontal turntables any day. And also: turtables with a lot of automatics mean low quality sound reproduction. Turntables with automatic needle lowering (and raising) mechanisms, or automatic on/off, or electronic speed change, also suffer from a higher noise than manual turntables (where you have to be more careful, but the results are far more awarding). That's why I'm sticking with my Project.
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09/26/08 4:56 PM
smemily member Joined: 09/03/08 Location: NM Posts: 831	ishtmail posted: smemily posted: That thing was about $1200 1982-dollars, has an incredible internal balance mechanism that keeps the needle as light and stable on the record as a conventional horizontal turntable. It can auto-detect and cue an EP vs LP. It's not a POS. Don't know about $1200, but considering you can get it for 28 pounds on ebay (even though it's not working properly), or an auction ending at 33 €, and considering that it doesn't have any kind of coverage on the internet (most high quality vintage turntables have their followers), I dare say this was a failed experiment of Sharp's. I'll stick to horizontal turntables any day. And also: turtables with a lot of automatics mean low quality sound reproduction. Turntables with automatic needle lowering (and raising) mechanisms, or automatic on/off, or electronic speed change, also suffer from a higher noise than manual turntables (where you have to be more careful, but the results are far more awarding). That's why I'm sticking with my Project. Haven't been to stereo2go? And yea, you can occasionally find them cheap on ebay. Broken. I got mine from the original owner, in person, some 10 years ago. It doesn't have auto on/off, or electronic speed change (that's controlled by a pot on one of the boards, yes I've been inside it). It has a light sensor that detects the size of the disc loaded, and it has a balancing mechanism that won't let it play if tilted more than a few degrees, and it has a fancy spinning fan that controls the speed at which the door opens. Anyway I wasn't trying to convince you or anyone else to get one. I was just showing my player and got my ass jumped for it, apparently by people who've never even seen one in person.
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09/26/08 5:45 PM
ishtmail Yes, quite... Joined: 11/27/07 Location: Slovenia Posts: 825	Oh don't get offended... And don't take it personally! I haven't seen your type of turntable in person, but every article, comment and opinion I read lead me towards one single goal: a horizontal manual turntable. And trust me, before I bought my turntable, I did a lot of research till I settled on what seems to be the most publicly accepted type of turntable for an audiophile listening. Every turntable fan and enthousiast will tell you the same thing: a perfect turntable must have 1 motor, detached from the main chassis, which drives a heavy platter via a belt, plus a long tonearm with a high quality cartridge. Anything else (and this includes sensors, electronics, automatic raising of the tonearm, automatic switching between speeds etc) is just bad for the final sound - because of interference. So again, don't take my critique personal - I've seen people do things to their vinyl that I wouldn't want done to my worst enemies, so your turntable is quite innocent in that regard...
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09/26/08 4:55 PM
thesonofsamiam member 666 bpm Joined: 09/19/08 Posts: 23	i like to pretend im a dj and scratch on my vinyls
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09/26/08 10:06 PM
demonvein member Joined: 09/04/08 Posts: 20	I have 12" only Down in it PHM Broken Fixed UK TDS (Promo w/ original 1994 insert) <- my pride and joy TDTWWA Fragile (unopened) Fragile (opened so I can listen to it, which I do, often) Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/26/2008 10:07PM by demonvein.
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09/27/08 1:40 PM
seasonsinthesky member deluxe audio nerd Joined: 11/27/07 Location: the wide open killingfiel Posts: 778	anyone listened to their copies of the new TDS vinyl reissue? do the sides end the same way (i.e. the end of The Becoming has the I Do Not Want This sounds but fades out, and Eraser has the Reptile intro but fades out) or are they different?
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09/28/08 9:39 AM
jhulud member Joined: 04/14/08 Location: South FloriDUH Posts: 149	TDS re-press...only differences are on that sticker that was already mentioned and the fact that it's on 180gram vinyl.
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09/28/08 12:40 PM
ishtmail Yes, quite... Joined: 11/27/07 Location: Slovenia Posts: 825	'only differences' huh - it shows you don't have OCD. What about the catalogue code?
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09/28/08 8:57 PM
slipping member Joined: 11/27/07 Location: Lancaster%2C CA Posts: 10	Will post pics when I can, but : Pretty Hate Machine Down In It Sin the day the world went away the fragile things falling apart ghosts i-iv the slip hand that feeds/home picture disc hand that feeds photek mixes only - richard x and el-p mixes el-p ill sleep when your dead (trent on flyentology) NIN/Manson split single a:tourniqet b:the perfect drug (meat beat manifesto) machines of loving grace - burn like brilliant trash puff daddy - victory (nin remix)
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09/29/08 5:33 AM
reason777 member Joined: 12/16/07 Location: Brisbane%2C Australia Posts: 23	ishtmail posted: And also: EXCEPT for broken, the sound is better?! The Broken UK vinyl is the prime example of a BETTER sound on vinyl compared to CD! Damn right! Broken is one of THE VERY BEST sounding vinyl lps I have ever heard!
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09/29/08 9:51 AM
ishtmail Yes, quite... Joined: 11/27/07 Location: Slovenia Posts: 825	I received the TDS reissue, and here are the differences from the original US (promo) release: the purple print is lighter in colour on the release (darker on the original) no catalogue code above the logo on the back no TVT logo in the upper right corner and no Atlantic logo either barcode added to the upper right corner details at the bottom are different Oh, yeah, and I hear the vinyls are heavier... I guess that counts too... The catalogue code is on the spine: B0011697-01
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09/29/08 10:00 AM
ekrekel member Joined: 11/27/07 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 146	ishtmail posted: I received the TDS reissue, and here are the differences from the original US (promo) release: the purple print is lighter in colour on the release (darker on the original) no catalogue code above the logo on the back no TVT logo in the upper right corner and no Atlantic logo either barcode added to the upper right corner details at the bottom are different Oh, yeah, and I hear the vinyls are heavier... I guess that counts too... The catalogue code is on the spine: B0011697-01 ekrekel posted: The sleeves are flip flopped. The US promo has Disk 1 in the sleeve with the block NIN on the cover and Disk 2 in the sleeve with the feathers. The Lyrics were shuffled around a bit, the spacing changed heresy isn't split into 2 columns anymore, but big man with a gun is. Also the PA logo is printed on the lower left corner of the cover instead of being an actual sticker on the upper right. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/29/2008 09:00AM by ekrekel.
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09/29/08 6:37 PM
jhulud member Joined: 04/14/08 Location: South FloriDUH Posts: 149	I stand sorely corrected on the differences then...D'oh!
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09/29/08 5:44 PM
thesonofsamiam member 666 bpm Joined: 09/19/08 Posts: 23	so do you guy collect vinyl in general or just nine inch nails vinyl ?
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09/29/08 9:37 PM
jhulud member Joined: 04/14/08 Location: South FloriDUH Posts: 149	I listen to and collect vinyl...all kinds of music and bands including NIN.
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09/29/08 10:56 PM
ishtmail Yes, quite... Joined: 11/27/07 Location: Slovenia Posts: 825	I collect vinyl in general, although my biggest part of it is NIN. My small collection is quite miniscule compared to my dad's, who has over 500 vinyls (60s, 70s and 80s mostly), but I'm getting there.
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09/30/08 9:02 AM
thesonofsamiam member 666 bpm Joined: 09/19/08 Posts: 23	whats your rarest record ?
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09/30/08 10:32 AM
ekrekel member Joined: 11/27/07 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 146	I'd say a toss up between HLAH German 12" and WITT 10" I don't know what the count is on HLAH but it might close(or even less)... Especially since it came out 19 years earlier.
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09/30/08 10:36 AM
ishtmail Yes, quite... Joined: 11/27/07 Location: Slovenia Posts: 825	ekrekel posted: I'd say a toss up between HLAH German 12" and WITT 10" I don't know what the count is on HLAH but it might close(or even less)... Especially since it came out 19 years earlier. Yeah, I'd say those two are my rarest too...
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09/30/08 9:44 AM
thesonofsamiam member 666 bpm Joined: 09/19/08 Posts: 23	wow i know im ganna catch hell for not knowing this but what are those ? oooooooooooh click the links now i get it can i take back this post Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/30/2008 10:09AM by thesonofsamiam.
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09/30/08 11:29 AM
ishtmail Yes, quite... Joined: 11/27/07 Location: Slovenia Posts: 825	Well, the test-pressing vinyls are pretty damn rare too, and I have HLAH, Sin and Broken... Basically, any (and all) of these vinyls are worth between 150 and 250 bucks, and WITT is known to cost 300-400.
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09/30/08 11:24 AM
thesonofsamiam member 666 bpm Joined: 09/19/08 Posts: 23	wow the most i ever spent on a record was 80$
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09/30/08 1:25 PM
ishtmail Yes, quite... Joined: 11/27/07 Location: Slovenia Posts: 825	thesonofsamiam posted: wow the most i ever spent on a record was 80$ You have a lot to learn, tiny grasshopper!
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09/30/08 3:05 PM
thesonofsamiam member 666 bpm Joined: 09/19/08 Posts: 23	you guys must have no kids or bad ass jobs or something ! i guess im doomed to only own reissues oh well Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/30/2008 03:06PM by thesonofsamiam.
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09/30/08 5:46 PM
seasonsinthesky member deluxe audio nerd Joined: 11/27/07 Location: the wide open killingfiel Posts: 778	seasonsinthesky posted: anyone listened to their copies of the new TDS vinyl reissue? do the sides end the same way (i.e. the end of The Becoming has the I Do Not Want This sounds but fades out, and Eraser has the Reptile intro but fades out) or are they different? c'mon folks! if you opened the reissue to take pictures, i'm sure you've listened to it.
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10/01/08 9:28 AM
nine_inch_nerd member collector Joined: 11/28/07 Location: Dutch Mountains Posts: 494	Recieved today this TF vinyl, still sealed. The texture on the back below says: made in EU; 490 473-1 LC06406 But the sticker on the plastic says: ILPST 8091/490 473-1 (which's the UK cat#). Did anyone ever see this lay-out? Is it special? Do I need to keep my other (unsealed) EU version, because now I got this sealed version I was thinking of selling it? Thnx.
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10/01/08 5:45 PM
ekrekel member Joined: 11/27/07 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 146	^^^ How secure are you with the seller? I'd guess it's a fake sticker on a re-wrapped vinyl.
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10/02/08 1:43 AM
nine_inch_nerd member collector Joined: 11/28/07 Location: Dutch Mountains Posts: 494	ekrekel posted: ^^^ How secure are you with the seller? I'd guess it's a fake sticker on a re-wrapped vinyl. It was my first sale with this seller from Paris. He has 100% feedback. No, it's not re-wrapped. The plastic looks old and a little coloured and has some age-damages. The sticker is also aged. During the auction the picture showed a sticker on the barcode. Now it's gone and there's a light yellow mark on the plastic. If it was a fake it would look newer and better for sure. Well, I have a good feeling about this. VVV ? VVV Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/02/2008 09:17AM by nine_inch_nerd.
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10/02/08 10:05 AM
kdrcraig member fuck yeah Joined: 03/03/08 Location: Phoenixville PA Posts: 2,792	Does anyone have any suggestions on protective sleeves to put vinyls in? I'm looking for something that can fit the entire thing, packaging and all, not just the record itself. any suggestions?
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