sourfriday posted:

chrisgonzo posted:

Love his work, though I have to admit I found Mister B Gonne to be a bit of a let-down.

Well I started this one yesterday, seems ok to me so far.

Which one should I read next?

WEAVEWORLD!!

Lost how many times I've read it now...

VigilX posted:

Since you like teen fiction, you might also want to check out the Abarat series. Right now, there are only 2 (of 5) books released, but book 3 will be out next year some time. Admittedly, the first book feels more like an introduction and a little anticlimactic, but book 2 really makes up for it... just read them like they're one long book and you won't have any problems. The books also contain a large number of paintings done by Clive himself (I'm not sure if the paperback versions contain these or not, but used hardcover copies can be had for pretty cheap if you don't want to spend the money)

Wow, wow, wow, are you admitting that you read and enjoyed some teen fiction brah..?


(lol)

sourfriday posted:

Wow, wow, wow, are you admitting that you read and enjoyed some teen fiction brah..?(lol)

I never had a problem with it, you just misread the intentions of my original question.

VigilX posted:

sourfriday posted:

chrisgonzo posted:

Love his work, though I have to admit I found Mister B Gonne to be a bit of a let-down.

Well I started this one yesterday, seems ok to me so far.
Which one should I read next?

Yeah, it starts off fine, but the ending is a bit of a let down.

By the way, I will agree with this ^^^ summation. I'll read more of his stuff at some point, but my waiting pile is still too big to add to!

surrealist gesture posted:

Holy Shit, I finally saw The Midnight Meat Train last night and good god was it HORRIBLE, absolutely awful with NO redeeming value whatsoever.
total piece of shit, I don't see how Barker was happy with it.
Horrible acting, unnecessary and superfluous character exposition, cheesy as all hell CGI effects... the list goes on and on. At the very least they kept the good ending tacked onto this horrible pos.

I swear we've had this conversation before...

Anyway, it's not exceptionally bad once you acknowledge that it's a horror film. Anybody watching it should either
a) be fine with horror films and on this level, it's not exceptionally bad.
b) already know they don't like horror and not waste their time with this one.

But even if we're comparing it to other films...

The acting wasn't horrible, it was just mediocre (okay, maybe Brooke Shields was bad, but she had about 2 or 3 scenes)... the same goes for the exposition. They threw in the photography thing because if they kept the original story, the movie would be over in 20 minutes (in fact, the opening scenes was kind of a nod to how Leon really started the ride in the story).

I actually didn't mind the CGI too much since it was so stylized... it actually reminded me of how fake the blood in Suspiria looked, but since realism wasn't really important there, it didn't matter just like here. It was over the top and that's fine as far as horror goes.

Overall, I think complaining about acting and exposition and questioning why Barker didn't mind it seems kind of silly since the original story was pretty short on all that to begin with. There wasn't really any character development or great dialogue, so it's not like much was lost in translation in that department.

You said they kept the ending, but if anything, that's the one thing that SHOULD be bitched about. They DIDN'T keep the ending, they replaced the giant father with the train conductor and they didn't really explain why Leon would switch to the "dark side" (in the story, it's more apparent when you compare his hate for the city and general existential outlook with the appeal of having a purpose and serving something much greater at the end).

Someone said he was overrated. I don't think he is. He's a brilliant writer. I read The Helbound Heart. It was amazing. It actually reminded me of another book I read that was published just last year. I think that other guy must've been heavily influenced by Clive or something. Now I know his work was just unoriginal. Millions of people must've been influenced by Clive's books or the Hellraiser movies. He's got lots of followers at Twitter.

Imagica made a huge impression on me. I read it about 16 years ago, and just re-read it this past year. I think it would make a wonderful film, although its an awfully long book.

Finished Weaveworld, the images it created in my head will stay with me for a long time. About to start The Great and Secret Show.

VegaChastain posted:

Love this man. The Great and Secret Show is probably my favorite, though Everville and Weaveworld and Imajica are very close behind. Love that he introduced me to the idea of quidity....

I agree with your statement about Quiddity - what a mind-blowing concept. I think my favourite book of his (if I really had to choose), would be Weaveworld. He is a writer in a league of his own - nobody else comes close.

EJM posted:

Also, Has anyone watched the movie Nightbreed it is based off Cabal it would of been a good movie if the soundtrack was done differently. It came off as distracting and killed the mood it made it look silly. It was kind of disappointing. If it had the same soundtrack to Hellraiser it might of been better and not so cheesy.

I saw Nightbreed when it first came out. There's actually a much longer, more faithful cut that Clive's been struggling to get onto home video for many years now, but it may never see the light of day at this rate. You may be able to find out more on it at his official website. Personally, I'd love to see it myself.

9Inch9Nails9 posted:

I've read Mister B. Gone, there was so much he could of done with this book. But, I still enjoyed it.

I agree with this totally

My favourite books so far are Hellbound Heart, Cold Heart Canyon. I still look forward to reading The Books of Blood,and the Hellraiser comic book series. I need to buy a Hardcover copy of Mister B gone, that was a great book.



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