A Song of Ice and Fire?
 

11/09/10 11:46 PM

I love this series with a passion... I feel it would be a liking to people who are fans of NiN.... Do to it's dark content

So if any of you have read it and like the series... let's start off by whos your favorite character? :]

Jaime lannister for me!.. I used to hate him in the first one, but once you see his point of view... He's actually a nice guy and good hearted in the end I feel.. Just on the ouside seems like an asshole with his witty humor.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/09/2010 11:47PM by CapitalG91.

 

11/10/10 1:06 PM

I named one of my cats Daenerys...gotta love a gal with dragons grinning smiley

 

11/12/10 1:26 PM

Also gotta be scared if your a guy O.O.. lol.. But that's great that you named your cat daenerys grinning smiley

 

11/02/11 10:31 AM

I just started reading the series after I saw the first season of Game of Thrones on HBO and I'm on the 4th book now (which for some reason, is not keeping my interest like the first 3). Did anyone else pick the books up after the series? I see no one has posted on this forum in over a year...

ANYWAYS, I have always had a prejudice against "fantasy" novels but I now realize I'm an idiot and dragons are pretty damn cool.

And I agree with CapitalG...Jamie has really grown on me but I think I like Tyrion the best.

 

11/12/11 6:13 AM

blondesrockthis posted:
I just started reading the series after I saw the first season of Game of Thrones on HBO and I'm on the 4th book now (which for some reason, is not keeping my interest like the first 3). Did anyone else pick the books up after the series? I see no one has posted on this forum in over a year...

ANYWAYS, I have always had a prejudice against "fantasy" novels but I now realize I'm an idiot and dragons are pretty damn cool.

And I agree with CapitalG...Jamie has really grown on me but I think I like Tyrion the best.

I also picked up the books after the awesomeness that was the HBO series. I've read a number of fantasy series before, but ASoIaF just never came onto my radar before then.

I'm about 2/3 of the way through book 3; I gotta say, GRRM can be downright fucking brutal to both his characters as well as his readers. Anyone just starting the books, be forewarned: you've not likely read fantasy novels as relentlessly bleak as these. He describes a land torn apart by war, and how no one emerges unscathed. To Martin's credit, few authors would have the nerve to make the choices he makes in his books, and be so willing to upset his fan base.

It can be tough going at times; as a reader, you're used to a certain amount of payoff and satisfaction when it comes to books like these; victories for the heroes and comeuppance for the villains; Martin provides mere scraps of each, prolonging the hardships and suffering, yet still somehow keeping the reader compelled to keep going.

I've heard book 4 is the low point in the series, especially after all the upheavals in book 3. In some ways I feel as the HBO series may be the superior version of the story, since by necessity all frivolous material must be cut, leaving only the main thrust of the narrative. Martin does go overboard in places with the descriptive language, and naming the full lineages of families that have zero importance to anything. All in all, they're supremely we'll written books, reminding me more of Dune than LotR.

I'd probably go with Tyrion and Danyeris as my favorite characters, with Davos Seaworth a close second.

 

11/16/11 4:46 PM

I kinda liked the first book, but after that it kinda got monotonous ( I read 3 of the 4). For fantasy novel, there isn't a lot of fantasy, it's more like a medieval soap opera. also, there are too many loose ends, unresolved plot lines, and useless passages (aka anything with Arya Stark).

Tyrion is a great character though...

 

12/05/11 7:40 PM

My girlfriend is reading this. It's what you expect from a fantasy series. Nothing of too much substance or value. It's easy to blow through the 1000 pages per book in about a week and half.

 

12/08/11 10:16 AM

KateGompert posted:
My girlfriend is reading this. It's what you expect from a fantasy series. Nothing of too much substance or value. It's easy to blow through the 1000 pages per book in about a week and half.

I feel I must disagree with this. My friend and I were discussing the books and she said the most amazing thing about them is that everything is relevant, no wasted pages....she hit the nail on the head for me.

When you have such a huge collection of books to read, it can get abit mundane (I found book three the hardest), but then you get to put all the pieces back together and it's all worth it.

I noticed that Game of Thrones was listed as one of your favourtie TV shows, maybe you ought to try to read the book for yourself rather than through your girlfriends eyes, you might be surprised smiling smiley

 

12/08/11 11:48 AM

fijjit posted:
I feel I must disagree with this. My friend and I were discussing the books and she said the most amazing thing about them is that everything is relevant, no wasted pages....she hit the nail on the head for me.

Pretty much anything with Arya Stark in it during the first 3 books is wasted pages. She is one stark child too many.

 

12/08/11 1:55 PM

I'm just not a fan of plot-driven stories--which, in all honesty, is this series. I've read chapters here and there from them.

Maybe it's pretentious of me, but I'm more a fan of Post-Modernism, Absurdism, that kind of nonsense. I just think 1000+ page fantasy books are too easy, too "what you expect."

She got through probably close to 2k pages (between books) within a month. I read Infinite Jest (which is 1097 pages) it takes (not just for me, but everybody who reads it) at least 2.5 months.

I feel it's just an adult Harry Potter...fun, entertaining, no lasting challenging emotions.

(I'm not trying to be a dick, I'm not calling you stupid).

 

12/08/11 2:30 PM

posted:
Pretty much anything with Arya Stark in it during the first 3 books is wasted pages. She is one stark child too many.

See, I like Arya....Bran always seemed the weak link to me.

KateGompert- I'm not really a big fantasy reader, but I've been a fan of George RR Martins work for years.

I guess books are like films, some people love Tolkien to read but hate the films and vice versa.

I've read the Harry Potter books twice now, and I agree totally with you that they are fun and entertaining....but I personally wouldn't put them in the same bracket....the two have nothing in common for me.

 

12/12/11 2:25 PM

KateGompert posted:
Maybe it's pretentious of me, but I'm more a fan of Post-Modernism, Absurdism, that kind of nonsense. I just think 1000+ page fantasy books are too easy, too "what you expect."

Easier from the readers perspective, but not the writers. There is nothing easier than compiling 1000 pages of free-written, unedited nonsense (ie Infinite Jest), with out worrying about plot. It's just more degrees of freedom for the author, which makes their works all the LESS impressive.

 

12/12/11 11:14 PM

HurtNoMore posted:
Pretty much anything with Arya Sansa Stark in it during the first 3 books is wasted pages. She is one stark child too many.

Fixed that for you.

 

12/13/11 9:25 AM

^Nope. Sansa serves an important role by establishing the insanity and cruelty of Joffery. Whereas, Arya seems get her own meandering plot-line for no reason.

 

12/13/11 3:01 PM

Love Tyrion, Arya, Samwell, and actually Robert Baratheon was bloody good fun. Daenerys is epic. There isn't much I don't love about this story. smiling smiley

 

12/14/11 11:58 AM

HurtNoMore posted:
I kinda liked the first book, but after that it kinda got monotonous ( I read 3 of the 4). For fantasy novel, there isn't a lot of fantasy, it's more like a medieval soap opera. also, there are too many loose ends, unresolved plot lines, and useless passages (aka anything with Arya Stark).

Tyrion is a great character though...

I was wondering what the hell is going to happen with her. I just finished the 5th book and she was in it maybe twice? I mean, he has to have something huge planned for her since he keeps her alive. I really like Arya and I have a feeling she is going to end up seriously badass.

 

12/19/11 7:43 AM

I've been reading the series straight through, about half way through book 4 right now. I've enjoyed them very much, especially because it's so character driven and short on the fantasy mumbo jumbo. Book 4 is my least favorite so far, it's like the author ripped apart everything you might see as developing story lines in the first three, and then is spending a whole book sifting through the wreckage. I'm also aware that books 4 and 5 are separate halves of what originally would have been one big book if he had stuck to the format of the first three, as I've been lead to believe that book 5 covers the other characters remaining.... I've also come to believe that there is one huge underlying conflict that's barely been touched upon, but is the real deal beneath everything else, like so many of the struggles the characters/factions have been through have basically been meaningless in the scope of what's to come. Very curious to see how he's going to wrap this up in books 6 and 7.

 
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