Final Fantasy XIII-2
 
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01/18/11 4:09 PM

 

01/18/11 7:39 PM

Why not FF XIV ?!

 

01/20/11 8:10 PM

FF XIV is an online game for the PC and since it was met with a lot of negative feedback due to various game play issues, the PS3 version has been postponed indefinitely

 

02/18/11 2:19 AM

2012 is the future for ff xiii-2? (at least in america)

 

03/12/11 2:02 PM

HD screenshots from the trailer

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03/15/11 7:20 PM

It didn't need a god damn sequel. I await the day for a Final Fantasy to actually be good.

 

03/16/11 12:08 AM

truthillusion posted:
It didn't need a god damn sequel. I await the day for a Final Fantasy to actually be good.

No need to wait. The day came in 1994, when Final Fantasy III was released for the SNES. It's all been downhill from there.

 

03/17/11 6:39 PM

^that's great for a hipster ariel quote

@truthillusion you do realize you are talking about one of the most successful and highly acclaimed games for 2010 and this generation of consoles in general

 

03/18/11 9:06 PM

gaaira posted:
^that's great for a hipster ariel quote

I'll admit it is probably nostalgia more than anything. Also, I got tired of JRPGs right around the time PS 1 hit the shelves, so I can't say I'm the most reliable source of information when it comes to the genre.

That isn't going to stop me from cracking wise, though.

<_<

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@truthillusion you do realize you are talking about one of the most successful and highly acclaimed games for 2010 and this generation of consoles in general

Aw, come on now. Arguing from critical acclaim is fallacious, good sir. Besides, the enjoyment derived from playing video games is purely subjective. I may relentlessly bust on games I don't like, but I won't criticize you for liking them.

 

03/19/11 12:15 AM

who on earth said anything about critical acclaimed ?

 

03/19/11 2:14 AM

gaaira posted:
who on earth said anything about critical acclaimed ?

Then it is argument from bandwagon.

 

03/22/11 7:52 PM

Riktor posted:
gaaira posted:
who on earth said anything about critical acclaimed ?

Then it is argument from bandwagon.

I have nothing personal with you but with all due respect, that was really stupid.

When you try to discredit critical acclaim you inadvertently imply that someone else's acclaim has more gravity.

 

03/22/11 9:18 PM

gaaira posted:
Riktor posted:
gaaira posted:
who on earth said anything about critical acclaimed ?

Then it is argument from bandwagon.

I have nothing personal with you but with all due respect, that was really stupid.

When you try to discredit critical acclaim you inadvertently imply that someone else's acclaim has more gravity.

I did no such thing, and I fail to see how you've arrived at this conclusion.

My point is a game isn't "good" by virtue of how many people like it (bandwagon fallacy) or how many critics gave it positive reviews (appeal to authority). I brought up critical acclaim by accident in misreading your original reply to Truthillusion (I see the words "acclaim" and my mind automatically places "critical" before it; it is simple word association built up over decades). As for the opinions of others, you brought that one up yourself, and the point I'm trying to make in response is that enjoyment of a game is primarily subjective and the opinions of others are completely irrelevant. Truthillusion thinks FF sucks, and he is well within his rights to think so - and say so - millions upon millions of FF fans be damned.

 

03/24/11 7:47 AM

Details lifted from Japanese gaming magazine Dengeki

XIII-2?s story begins in Gran Pulse after the ending of XIII.

The story will feel like it expands out from the after story that was included in the booklet with Xbox 360?s Final Fantasy XIII International.

Outside of Lightning, other characters will appear in the game in unexpected forms. Some will see major changes.

XIII-2 is a full sequel. You’ll learn some of the things that took place in the background scenes of XIII.

The story will be more dark and mysterious than XIII’s.

The story will focus on the goddess Etro.

The game will not have the pop feel of Final Fantasy X-2.

The battle system will be an evolved form of XIII’s ATB system.

They’re listening to opinions both inside and outside of Square Enix and from outside of Japan regarding characters, story and interface.

There may be a difficulty setting.

 

03/29/11 11:18 PM

WooHoo! Thanks Gaaira for the info!
It was great to get some new info from gameinformer magazine too, can't wait to hear more!

 

04/05/11 1:33 AM

Sounds exciting! As someone who loved XIII, I'm pretty hyped.

 

04/28/11 12:24 AM

Why is it that Square-Enix only makes direct sequels to the worst fucking games in the Final Fantasy series?

I'll admit to honestly liking the story and characters of FFXIII, but virtually everything else about it was a fucking train wreck.

 

04/28/11 11:52 PM

Final Fantasy X was pretty fucking awesome, as was VII. They don't make sequels to anything else because they pretty much ended the other games - no need for sequels. What do you want, a sequel to IV? LOL.

 

04/29/11 1:17 AM

Can't tell if that was sarcasm tongue sticking out smiley
But they actually made a sequel to IV.
I think it's a Wiiware game, and also on the new PSP release of IV.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/29/2011 01:18AM by kazuya3162.

 

05/01/11 10:27 AM

sinmike posted:
Final Fantasy X was pretty fucking awesome, as was VII. They don't make sequels to anything else because they pretty much ended the other games - no need for sequels. What do you want, a sequel to IV? LOL.

advent children was a sequel to VII, X-2 was a sequel to X, Revenant Wings was a sequel to XII

with each FF they create entire worlds from scratch not just a story, of course there is room for more

@DeadlyGardens, XIII had a brilliant battle system and some of the best graphics this generation and probably the best on an RPG, if they manage to improve that we will have a mind blowing game



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/01/2011 10:30AM by gaaira.

 

05/02/11 1:41 PM

sinmike posted:
Final Fantasy X was pretty fucking awesome, as was VII. They don't make sequels to anything else because they pretty much ended the other games - no need for sequels. What do you want, a sequel to IV? LOL.

I don't want sequels to any of them. The good ones stand on their own and I don't want anymore shit from the bad ones. Especially since all X had for it was a really damn good battle system which got buttfucked in X-2 anyway.

gaaira posted:

@DeadlyGardens, XIII had a brilliant battle system and some of the best graphics this generation and probably the best on an RPG, if they manage to improve that we will have a mind blowing game

On battle system: Sure, I liked the paradigm system.

On graphics: Fanwank alert. Technically proficient graphics do not prop up the quality of the game.

Yes, let's hope they do what final fantasy just has as a given and consistently improve battle mechanics and graphics while leaving things like pacing, flow, gameplay and story connection, exploration and being fun to play behind them.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/02/2011 01:41PM by DeadlyGardens.

 

05/03/11 7:59 AM

were i a member of square enix trying to listen to the fans, i would be like: some of you people are not making any sense

 

05/04/11 3:45 PM

gaaira posted:
were i a member of square enix trying to listen to the fans, i would be like: some of you people are not making any sense

Were I member of Square-Enix the fucking piles of money would be drowning out the legitimate criticism of their terrible fucking game design.

 

05/05/11 4:43 AM

by legitimate criticism you mean first saying everything else sucked and then agreeing on the battle system and of all games saying that FF XIII was not graphically well designed ? The members as in developers don't have a lot of money, that's the executives. Nevertheless; trying to silence criticism, where did that come from ? When i said people are not making any sense i meant for years there was nagging about how XII was so unlike X and the rest. Now this "legitimate criticism" is how linear FFXIII is !

Im only answering to all this caused as far as i have noticed all the big and loud bashing opinions come from people who barely know the games and simply feel the need to say something cause its a big franchise

 

05/06/11 8:44 PM

Sounds fun...I liked FF XIII, it wasn't my favorite, but it was fairly good.

 

05/08/11 2:21 AM

...Such a sensitive subject. Final Fantasy has become so grand, how can you really judge?
Only a gamer or fan can tell it like it is, with experience.
New material should be evident and materia should be relevant!
If the spirit of final fantasy should ever die, I will bitch slap the destroyer!
Bless XIII-2, this shit will be awesome!

 

05/11/11 1:01 AM

gaaira posted:
by legitimate criticism you mean first saying everything else sucked and then agreeing on the battle system and of all games saying that FF XIII was not graphically well designed ? The members as in developers don't have a lot of money, that's the executives. Nevertheless; trying to silence criticism, where did that come from ? When i said people are not making any sense i meant for years there was nagging about how XII was so unlike X and the rest. Now this "legitimate criticism" is how linear FFXIII is !

Im only answering to all this caused as far as i have noticed all the big and loud bashing opinions come from people who barely know the games and simply feel the need to say something cause its a big franchise

I'm going to break this down so your fragile little brain can comprehend:

1.) First of all, in response to that final remark? Fuck you. I've been playing Final Fantasy since I was 6 years old.

2.) I like one facet of the battle system, but everything surrounding the novelty of changing jobs in combat was destroyed by a complete lack of legitimate choices in building your characters. I'm talking about the crystarium here. If your leveling is a straight line, why pretend we have a choice?

3.) I never said the game was not graphically proficient. I think the art design was eye bleeding, but it had the best graphics of 2010. My point was that graphics should not be talked about in discussions of a game's quality. FFIV-VI thrash this game in terms of quality, and they have 4th generation console graphics.

4.) I did not say they were silencing criticism. I was saying they're so blinded by the profits that they're not fucking listening to criticism.

5.) FFXII received criticism because it was a dramatic departure from the FF formula, but that wasn't a bad game. FFXIII however, was not even just a dramatic departure. FFXIII was approaching Indigo Prophecy levels of non-interaction. Criticizing it's linearity is legitimate, because video games are a fundamentally interactive medium. Removing interactivity in gameplay and restricting the level design to completely linear paths turns video games into really long movies. Some degree of linearity in terms of storytelling is necessary, but in terms of exploration and travel from one area to the next, there is no excuse for essentially running down hallways for 60+ hours.

6.) Since I feel this coming on, do not say "it gets better at Gran Pulse." Fuck this game. Video games should not take 20 hours just to get good. I could have beaten significantly better games in the time it took for this game to stop being restrictively linear and dull.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 05/11/2011 01:04AM by DeadlyGardens.

 

05/13/11 12:15 AM

nanettecarton posted:
Final Fantasy has become so grand, how can you really judge?

Easily.

Allow me to a go a step further and illustrate precisely how absurd that statement is.

"Lady Gaga has become so grand, how can you really judge?"

See what I'm getting at?


posted:
Only a gamer or fan can tell it like it is, with experience.

I disagree. A fan's a fan, and he'll keep swallowing Square's tripe long after the serious gamer has paid his bill and jumped ship.

I'm a gamer. I've been playing games for over twenty years now, and I can say quite authoritatively that Final Fantasy wore out its welcome years ago. I'm sick of the same lame-brained, derivative, complacent stories. I'm sick of the same two-dimensional characters Square pumps out night and day. I'm sick of the big hair and the big swords. Most of all, though, I'm sick of asshat game developers like Motomu Toriyama who think restricting a players' options is a good thing.

Fuck that noise. This is 2011. I want character customization options. I want open-ended gameplay. I want moral dilemmas that affect the outcome of the fucking story. If I want to watch a movie, I'll watch a fucking movie.

posted:
New material should be evident and materia should be relevant!

lolwut?

posted:
If the spirit of final fantasy should ever die, I will bitch slap the destroyer!
Bless XIII-2, this shit will be awesome!

Fuckin' kid's on drugs.

 

05/15/11 3:59 AM

DeadlyGardens posted:
I never said the game was not graphically proficient...
FFXIII however, was not even just a dramatic departure.

i think yur overreacting; the art design was a feast for the eye if you ask me and with FFXIII they simply tried a FFX approach again.

 

06/03/11 4:31 PM

 
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