Good band--shit album
 
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10/21/11 7:37 PM

These are not my opinions but I noticed that the following albums by Ministry are considered to be shit by some of Al's fans. (Or at least an enormous let-down, especially when I was lurking around the Piss Army forum when it was active minus Filth Pig and Dark Side of the Spoon. With Sympathy was liked a little bit by a few members, but nothing of there's was disliked as much as the "Bush Trilogy".)

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And just to reiterate, this is not my opinion, but I couldn't help but notice how some of these albums are ripped on by some of Ministry's actual fans. I still like the albums depending on my mood. As for fans that probably wanted more albums like The Land of Rape and Honey, The Mind is a Terrible Thing to Taste and Psalm 69, they just seemed to be very disappointed at Filth Pig and Dark Side of the Spoon.



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 10/21/2011 07:44PM by SalavanteK.

 

10/22/11 5:21 AM

SalavanteK posted:
but nothing of there's was disliked as much as the "Bush Trilogy".)

thats news to me

 

10/22/11 5:36 AM

[quote somerville1991

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j297/roadblock50/HowtoDestroyAngels-EP-DigitalCoverA.jpg

Yes, I realise that the latter is an EP, but I'm including it nonetheless.

(Dis)honourable mentions to that Lou Reed/Metallica abomination, as well as anything that KMFDM has done in the 00s.[/quote]

Ok...this has me confused. What you're saying here is that How To Destroy Angles is a good band but the EP is a shit album. Well the EP is the only thing this band has ever put out so doesn't this so far make them a shit band too?


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10/22/11 9:08 AM

posted:
Ok...this has me confused. What you're saying here is that How To Destroy Angles is a good band but the EP is a shit album. Well the EP is the only thing this band has ever put out so doesn't this so far make them a shit band too?


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e4/Amalgamut_cover.jpg

Well two of the members are TR and Atticus Ross, who I admire as musicians, so while it's technically not the band as a whole I think is good, two of the three members are musicians whose previous work I've enjoyed. It's safe to say I think they have the potential to be a good band. I'm looking forward to their next release, whenever that may be, I just didn't like HTDA (the EP) very much.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/22/2011 09:10AM by somerville1991.

 

10/22/11 3:37 PM

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More of a Jaz Coleman solo album, which misses all of the explosive energy that made Killing Joke so great to begin with. Luckily, they came back with a vengeance by releasing Extremities, Dirt & Various Repressed Emotions, one of their best works, right after this one.

 

10/22/11 3:45 PM

sessava posted:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_3M6PaDCirvM/SBlYOeyzFlI/AAAAAAAABLQ/Q150Ei10yPg/s400/korn_untitled_pa.jpg

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Strongly disagree. I see them as Korn's two best albums, I see that basically with korn the better the album artwork, the better the album.

Whiskers posted:
http://alexlarman.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/the-resistance-muse.jpg
http://fuckingsick.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/1995-mellon-collie-and-the-infinity-sadness.jpg

Disagree. The Resistance is one of their worst albums, but that still leaves it very good. I loved it.

johnny_ripper posted:
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Strongly disagree. That is by far my favourite album by them, I like pretty much every song and all their other albums mainly consist of stuff I don't peticulary like.

Kid IRA1 posted:
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Agree, though I wouldn't say the album is bad as such. It's just nowhere near as good as their other albums.

Churchy posted:
http://magnetomagazine.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/gorillaz-plastic-beach.jpg

Agree. Really don't know what Damon Albarn was thinking, should go back to his earier stuff such as Sing rather than rap nonsense.

Also:

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(Linkin Park)

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(much prefer their lastest two albums)



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10/23/11 5:33 AM

BlackInWards posted:
Strongly disagree. I see them as Korn's two best albums, I see that basically with korn the better the album artwork, the better the album.

the art work is shit, the music is shit, korn after breaking up with head are sad shit

 

10/24/11 8:06 AM

gaaira posted:
i will dare to say evanesence, fallen. they are not anything special but their two later albums are pretty solid for what they are whereas the first one was annoyingly radio friendly

I've been a little surprised there's no Evanescence discussion on this forum. I agree with you on all points there, but in my opinion their early work is far better than anything from Fallen onwards (as it isn't commercially available, they don't mind you downloading it - look for Origin, the 2001/2 demos, Evanescence EP and Sound Asleep EP).

Then again, it isn't really the same band. Everything before Fallen was created by three people in a more or less equal partnership. Since Fallen it's very much been the Amy Lee show, and the other original members are long gone (by Fallen, one of them had already left, and the lineup had been bloated by several rather unnecessary new members, who brought the unpleasant nu-metal direction of that album).



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10/28/11 2:17 AM

gaaira posted:
BlackInWards posted:
Strongly disagree. I see them as Korn's two best albums, I see that basically with korn the better the album artwork, the better the album.

the art work is shit, the music is shit, korn after breaking up with head are sad shit

I think it went downhill after "Follow The Leader". Their first 3 albums were the best.

 

10/28/11 5:29 AM

i would add linkin park's 1000 suns & Minutes to Midnight. not that bad but they are unbearably boring and uninteresting

again not the greatest band (i dislike chesters singing quite a bit) but given Mike's and Mr Hahn's superb production and arrangement skills, they did drop the ball with the two last ones

 

10/29/11 3:01 PM

gaaira posted:
i would add linkin park's 1000 suns & Minutes to Midnight. not that bad but they are unbearably boring and uninteresting

1000 suns is dreadful, but Minutes to Midnight has some fantastic, deep songs on it. If you thought it was boring and uninteresting, you didn't listen to it properly.

 

10/29/11 9:07 PM

Isn't this considered to be a shit album to some actual Maggots as well?

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BlackInWards posted:
gaaira posted:
i would add linkin park's 1000 suns & Minutes to Midnight. not that bad but they are unbearably boring and uninteresting

1000 suns is dreadful, but Minutes to Midnight has some fantastic, deep songs on it. If you thought it was boring and uninteresting, you didn't listen to it properly.

I actually liked A Thousand Suns. It grew on me. There are still some favorites I have on Minutes to Midnight though. I also can't help but notice how both actual fans of Linkin Park, and even haters of Linkin Park are separated between the Hybrid Theory and Meteora, and Minutes to Midnight and A Thousands Suns.

In other words, if haters already thought that the first and the second albums sucked, the third and fourth one suck much harder to the extent that some of them actually find some goodness in the first two albums. Some of them even become former fans because of Minutes to Midnight and/or A Thousands Suns. It was rather surprising to me. (With the fans, not the haters.)



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/29/2011 09:13PM by SalavanteK.

 

10/30/11 5:51 PM

im big slipknot fan, my pick as a favourite would be the slipknot album but objectively i'd have to say that subliminal verses is by far their best work



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10/30/11 6:06 PM

the offspring, the band of the f*cking awesome The Offspring (1989),Ignition (1992) & Smash (1994)

is the band that made americana and Conspiracy of One and take a lot of the blame for pop punk in general

 

10/31/11 5:54 AM

I know I posted this on the previous page, but in case anyone missed it, here it is again.
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Morbid Angel's first album in eight years and first with original singer David Vincent in sixteen. But despite this, the album has received strong backlash from the fans claiming that MA is dead now, this is worse than St. Anger, and many of the songs ripoff Marilyn Manson. (The songs that come to my mind that back this up are "I Am Morbid" which sounds like a cross between "Organ Grinder" and "Antichrist Superstar", and the infamous "Radikult" which sounds like a slight knockoff of "Doll Dagga Buzz Buzz Ziggety Zag".) And many of the lyrics seem to be simply bragging about how "extreme" they have been. David's voice sounds noticeably different on this album and only a few songs sound like their usual.

And this is NOT my opinion at all, but many Opeth fans seem to find their current album to be shit.
http://www.nocleansinging.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Opeth-Heritage-Cover-e1311708815287.jpg
This album is influenced heavily by 70s progressive rock bands. It is often dissed for its somewhat cheesy lyrics, "bad transitions", use of flutes (on Famine), and (wait for it, wait for it) no growls. But I still fucking love it. I seriously love all of their albums, including this one.

 

12/01/11 6:32 AM

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12/01/11 10:02 AM

patrick_nicholas posted:
http://www.teethofthedivine.com/site/uploads/2011/11/megadeth-thirteen.jpg

I haven't heard this yet but had heard that it was pretty good. What is particular don't you like about it?

 

12/01/11 10:36 AM

Partially because most of the lyrics appear rather cheesy on this one, and the mastering kinda irritates me. Basically there's too much focus on the vocals and not enough on the riffs. Though it's still recognizable, it seems to lack the spirit that made early albums like Rust In Peace classic. Instead, it almost sounds like a failed attempt at rehashing their commercial-hard-rock-era (Countdown To Extinction-Cryptic Writings). I guess it must have been hard to do a followup to Endgame, their best album since Rust.

 

12/01/11 2:13 PM

As much as I love Depeche Mode, the Ultra album is still pretty hard for me to listen to. Yikes... They were struggling from Alan's departure. Things got a little bit better afterwards.

 

12/01/11 5:25 PM

sithlordjp posted:
As much as I love Depeche Mode, the Ultra album is still pretty hard for me to listen to. Yikes... They were struggling from Alan's departure. Things got a little bit better afterwards.

Yeah, I don't get why people like that album so much, either. That and EXCITER were pretty embarrassing. But Ultra was WORSE because of the epicness that was Songs of Faith and Devotion that came right before it. As far as I'm concerned, SOFAD is the last Depeche Mode album.

 

12/07/11 2:08 PM

Saul Williams- Volcanic Sunlight...I wanted to like this album, but I just cannot get into it. The beats are boring, it doesn't feel like it has that drive of the first album or the brutality of the second. Huge let down for me.

 

12/07/11 4:24 PM

Kid IRA1 posted:
^fair enough. and now my contribution:
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Volta, Bjork: a singular disappointment marred by half thought out songs and Timbaland's lazy production in what is otherwise one of the most original artists of our lifetime. Notably, Wanderlust is an exception.

Meat Is Murder, The Smiths: contains the single greatest Smiths song, How Soon Is Now?, surrounded on all sides by duds and lyrical caricature.

Pablo Honey, Radiohead: Creep and Blowout save it from being forgotten in post grunge hell.

Come On Die Young, Mogwai: sophomore slump at its worst.

My Bloody Underground, The Brian Jonestown Massacre: murky haze, completely lacking in the songcraft that made Anton Newcombe an underground rock messiah.

Old Growth, Dead Meadow: Dead Meadow was the psychedelic rock vanguard. They let stoners and critics alike down with a halfassed turn to bluesy political rock.

What?? Pablo Honey is amazing!!

 

12/07/11 6:19 PM

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Awful, just awful.

 

12/10/11 1:02 AM

Poptones posted:
http://tweedmag.com/MEDIA/NEWS/2004040909110101.jpg

Awful, just awful.

It may not be the classic that Nevermind and In Utero are, but I'd hardly say it was awful. "Dive" and "Been a Son" are two of my favorite Nirvana songs.



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12/10/11 10:18 AM

RhettButler posted:
Poptones posted:
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Awful, just awful.

It may not be the classic that Nevermind and In Utero are, but I'd hardly say it was awful. "Dive" and "Been a Son" are to of my favorite Nirvana songs.

Hell, I may even be controversial and say it was better than In Utero.

 

12/17/11 2:21 AM

KMOS92 posted:
RhettButler posted:
Poptones posted:
http://tweedmag.com/MEDIA/NEWS/2004040909110101.jpg

Awful, just awful.

It may not be the classic that Nevermind and In Utero are, but I'd hardly say it was awful. "Dive" and "Been a Son" are to of my favorite Nirvana songs.

Hell, I may even be controversial and say it was better than In Utero.

I think it had a wide variety of songs. There were hard rock, pop, and raunchy songs on it. I personally love it! "Dive" is great, and you can't forget "Aneurysm".

 

02/02/12 5:31 PM

cmdavis82 posted:
KMOS92 posted:
RhettButler posted:
Poptones posted:
http://tweedmag.com/MEDIA/NEWS/2004040909110101.jpg
Awful, just awful.

It may not be the classic that Nevermind and In Utero are, but I'd hardly say it was awful. "Dive" and "Been a Son" are to of my favorite Nirvana songs.

Hell, I may even be controversial and say it was better than In Utero.

I think it had a wide variety of songs. There were hard rock, pop, and raunchy songs on it. I personally love it! "Dive" is great, and you can't forget "Aneurysm".
Am I the only one that likes the song "hairspray queen" from this too? Bass sounds cool



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02/03/12 2:46 AM

I wonder if it's possible to do an opposite of this - bands that are usually shit (or who don't really do anything for you) but made one really awesome album!



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02/03/12 7:22 AM

Churchy posted:
I wonder if it's possible to do an opposite of this - bands that are usually shit (or who don't really do anything for you) but made one really awesome album!

I have a soft-spot for Significant Other, mostly out of nostalgia.

 

02/05/12 1:44 AM

http://covers1.img-themusic-world.info/000/21/21421.jpg

What the fuck were you thinking, Iggy?

 
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