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08/13/09 10:53 PM

Interesting new song. I don't think Radiohead can put out a song that I won't like at least a little bit.

 

08/14/09 1:15 AM

I'll have to give this new song a listen...I hope it's not the one they're sacrificing for New Moon!

 

08/14/09 8:55 AM

seasonsinthesky posted:
conbotdilnor posted:
making the last few [full length albums] has taken a lot out of them

if by that you mean they just don't think it's a viable way to release music anymore, then yeah, you're accurate winking smiley

From the interview I read Thom was mainly saying it was the whole process of making a full 10-12 track album the band wanted a break from. Here's a snippet:

Thom Yorke "None of us want to go into that creative hoo-ha of a long-play record again. Not straight off. I mean, it's just become a real drag. It worked with In Rainbows because we had a real fixed idea about where we were going. But we've all said that we can't possibly dive into that again. It'll kill us."

Could also be hinting that they're wanting to release music differently in the future as well, they're smart dudes & they aren't exactly short of a few bucks so could release music how they choose. As long as they keep making music it's all good.

 

08/14/09 9:26 AM

Not a big fan of the new song (still haven't heard the tribute song though).

It doesn't really develop at all.... in general, I'm not a big fan of their mellow work (e.g., House of Cards or Subterranean Homesick alien). I much prefer their dark, sad or energetic stuff.

 

08/14/09 12:51 PM

VigilX posted:
Not a big fan of the new song (still haven't heard the tribute song though).

It doesn't really develop at all.... in general, I'm not a big fan of their mellow work (e.g., House of Cards or Subterranean Homesick alien). I much prefer their dark, sad or energetic stuff.

The song is okay. I agree through, I love their darker work. We Suck Young Blood is probably one of my favorite songs, and anything off of Hail to the Thief. Pyramid song is up there too.

 

08/15/09 3:40 AM

Imaginary_Kevin posted:
We Suck Young Blood is probably one of my favorite songs, and anything off of Hail to the Thief.
Yeah, that album is fucking stellar. I actually didn't like a lot of it at first, but it really grew on me. Now when I listen to it, I can't figure out how the hell I didn't like all of it right away.

The song, The Gloaming was actually the last song I got to like, and I didn't really appreciate it until I saw it live on the In Rainbows tour... I was a little high so that might have had an impact, but damn, I love that song now.

We Suck Young Blood is a great example of how to make a song dark with dissonant chords... it's actually one of their most complex songs as far as harmony goes (one of the few I had to actually buy the tab book for to figure out).

Imaginary_Kevin posted:
Pyramid song is up there too.
Yeah, that's a great song too. It's not really sad or dark, but it's got a dreamy quality to it (kinda like certain parts in Sail to the Moon). Since it actually develops into something big, I really like it... I wish their new song did something like that.



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08/15/09 3:11 PM

anyone own the DVD of Split Sides? it's got several takes that include Radiohead's live performance, and i've read that their part of the soundtrack was essentially a long improv jam version of The Gloaming. if anyone owns the DVD and feels like ripping the audio, said performance has never seen the aural light of day.

 

08/16/09 4:19 PM

It hasn't been 100% confirmed by the band, but it's strongly tipped they'll be releasing a 4 track EP this week called Wall Of Ice. One of the songs on it is the recently leaked tune 'These Are My Twisted Words'

The EP will be available from radiohead.com

Sweet.

 

08/17/09 3:03 AM

VigilX posted:
Not a big fan of the new song (still haven't heard the tribute song though).

It doesn't really develop at all.... in general, I'm not a big fan of their mellow work (e.g., House of Cards or Subterranean Homesick alien). I much prefer their dark, sad or energetic stuff.
I agree.. minus the two songs you mentioned, I really like those.. just not so much songs like reckoner, morning bell, knives out, dollars and cents, etc.

 

08/17/09 8:17 AM

Well, I guess we didn't get an EP, just the song we already had : p

Still, I think this means there are going to be more things to come soon (and at least I have album artwork now. That drives me nuts).

 

08/17/09 9:23 AM

DJgif posted:
just not so much songs like reckoner
I mostly like the Reckoner for the very end and originally threw it into that category of mellow jams (so I can understand why you might not like it). In fact, there are a couple of songs on In Raindbows that I think are only saved by the climaxes.. took me a while to really like that album in general actually.

I think the Morning Bell climax could be more intense (the middle peak is bigger than the last one), and it is much better in live setting (it's got a really dark chord progression and cool time signature though so that makes me like it more). I think the KID A album in general had a problem with letting the end of songs kind of meander off a bit (idioteque especially comes to mind).

Dollars and Cents also has a similar format to Morning Bell where the climax is in the middle of the song and it has a less intense one at the end... still, if you crank the volume up in the appropriate places, there is a lot of energy in it. I think the middle peak actually makes it the most intense song on Amensiac...

Knives Out is pretty and sad, but there's hardly any development so it sounds like a less interesting version of Paranoid Android. Still, I'll give it a listen every once in a while.

 

08/17/09 3:41 PM

Knives out is kind of boring. Actually, I wish Amnesiac as a whole had stronger songs on it since it does have a few of my favorites (Pyramid Song and You and Whose Army, and I do kinda like Dollars and Cents).

I think the "mellow jams" like Reckoner and basically all of OK Computer have their place. I listen to them sometimes if I'm in a mellow mood, but mostly I listen to the stuff that presents more emotional depth. That's the great thing about Radiohead though, they're so versatile in what they can do.

 

08/17/09 5:01 PM

Aye, Knives Out isnt close to my favorites list. Pyramid Song, Sardines, Life in a Glass House, You and Whose Army? Dollar & Cents for me from that album. and Pulk is shoddy, in my opinion. I feel like I "get it" in context of the album as a whole, but that doesnt make it a good song.

 

08/17/09 5:15 PM

PxN posted:
I'll have to give this new song a listen...I hope it's not the one they're sacrificing for New Moon!

nah thats thom yorkes solo stuff theyre gonna use for the new moon soundtrack

 

08/17/09 5:18 PM

thedownwardslip posted:
PxN posted:
I'll have to give this new song a listen...I hope it's not the one they're sacrificing for New Moon!

nah thats thom yorkes solo stuff theyre gonna use for the new moon soundtrack

or something from his solo stuff i should say

 

08/17/09 5:51 PM

according to theyre site theyve stated that they are in the studio with nigel godrich working on their 8th studio album.so i dont know it could be an ep or aa album who knows maybe they were gonna release an album but decided to just make it a 2 eps

 

08/18/09 3:49 AM

dcj321 posted:
Interesting new song. I don't think Radiohead can put out a song that I won't like at least a little bit.

i concur. smiling smiley

 

08/18/09 6:07 AM

thedownwardslip posted:
working on their 8th studio album.

err, that's not quite what it says:

radiohead.com posted:
These Are My Twisted Words
So here's a new song, called 'These Are My Twisted Words'.

We've been recording for a while, and this was one of the first we finished.
We're pretty proud of it.

There's other stuff in various states of completion, but this is one we've been practicing, and which we'll probably play at this summer's concerts. Hope you like it.

Download the audio here or torrent here.
Jonny

... but i do hope there's enough material for lots of these releases, too winking smiley

 

08/18/09 7:05 PM

seasonsinthesky posted:
thedownwardslip posted:
working on their 8th studio album.

err, that's not quite what it says:

radiohead.com posted:
These Are My Twisted Words
So here's a new song, called 'These Are My Twisted Words'.

We've been recording for a while, and this was one of the first we finished.
We're pretty proud of it.

There's other stuff in various states of completion, but this is one we've been practicing, and which we'll probably play at this summer's concerts. Hope you like it.

Download the audio here or torrent here.
Jonny

i wasnt on about that statement the statement im on about came out 2 months ago i wasnt talking about these are my twisted words.

... but i do hope there's enough material for lots of these releases, too winking smiley

 

08/18/09 7:06 PM

thedownwardslip posted:
seasonsinthesky posted:
thedownwardslip posted:
working on their 8th studio album.

err, that's not quite what it says:

radiohead.com posted:
These Are My Twisted Words
So here's a new song, called 'These Are My Twisted Words'.

We've been recording for a while, and this was one of the first we finished.
We're pretty proud of it.

There's other stuff in various states of completion, but this is one we've been practicing, and which we'll probably play at this summer's concerts. Hope you like it.

Download the audio here or torrent here.
Jonny

i wasnt on about that statement the statement im on about came out 2 months ago i wasnt talking about these are my twisted words.

... but i do hope there's enough material for lots of these releases, too winking smiley

i wasnt on about that statement the statement im on about came out 2 months ago i wasnt talking about these are my twisted words.

 

08/29/09 5:28 PM

The only Radiohead I've heard is OK Computer (and Creep). I thought it was a pretty good album...very dreamy and helped me fall asleep a lot.

I don't know much of their other work though. Could any fans here give me a short guide to their albums?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/29/2009 05:29PM by ningamer.

 

08/29/09 5:39 PM

ningamer posted:
The only Radiohead I've heard is OK Computer (and Creep). I thought it was a pretty good album...very dreamy and helped me fall asleep a lot.

I don't know much of their other work though. Could any fans here give me a short guide to their albums?


Well I think you should keep going and follow the order, it changes quite a bit after Ok Computer. Ill give you my rundown on how the next records are below.
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Kid A - Big left turn from OKC. Not a lot of guitar, but still makes you wonder how they pulled it off. More keyboards and they use horns! Some atmospheric stuff too. Key tracks, The National Anthem, Morning Bell, Idioteque, How to Disappear.

Amnesiac - Recorded during the same sessions as Kid A, I call this the jazz album, they have always been big jazz fans and this shows it off to a point, and again more experimenting with sounds. A bit more guitar and more piano, strings too. Key tracks, Pyramid Song, I Might Be Wrong, You and Whose Army, Dollars and Cents, Life in A Glasshouse.


Hail To The Thief - This is just kind of them putting everything they had done the last few years and having fun. the guitar returns to find some more company with piano and electronic sounds. This album comes off amazing live, like it was meant to be that way. Very organic sounding. Key tracks, There There, 2 = 2 = 5, Sail To the Moon, Myxomatosis, A Wolf at The Door, Sit Down Stand Up.


In Rainbows - Look at this record as being very stripped down. Its simple, gets to the point and Thoms vocals make their presence heard big time, when you finish listening to it youll look at the clock and wonder how barely 40 mins went by. It has great appeal to a lot of people and they gained some more fans with this one. Songwirting is very very personal, and its been looked at as their career album. Key Tracks: All of It...



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08/29/09 6:15 PM

Creep is from their first album, Pablo Honey. That one was alright, it had a much more typical rock sound.

The Bends was their second. Look up Just, Fake Plastic Trees and My Iron Lung (which is sort of a follow up to Creep). I'd say this is one of their more energetic, heavier albums, although is has some great quiet moments too. The first two albums really don't sound like OK Computer at all, they aren't as mellow and the texture is nowhere as deep. Still, good stuff to check out.

After OK Computer, Radiohead released Kid A. This album is mostly electronic album with really dark soundscapes. It's very experimental and sounds absolutely nothing like OK Computer, and a lot of the songs have really strange song structures. If I were you I would look up Everything in its Right Place, How To Disappear Completely and, I don't know, maybe In Limbo to get a feel for it.

Amnesiac is basically Kid A's sister. Most of the songs were recorded around the same time. Amnesiac has the same dark soundscapes but with a less obvious electronic influence. There are some amazing songs on this album. Check out Pyramid Song, You and Whose Army? and I Might Be Wrong.

Hail to the Thief is the album where everything comes together. The drums are back to being human, and it's much more guitar driven. However, there's still a lot of electronic elements, especially as backdrops for the songs. This was kind of where the organic string element and the digital elements collided. It's also one of the darker albums. OK Computer seems to have a habit of telling us horrible things in a beautiful song. Hail makes it a lot more obvious, I think. Listen to Go To Sleep, We Suck Young Blood and There There.

Finally, In Rainbows is probably the most accessible album. It doesn't follow the really heavy, creeping production of the last two or three. It also kind of revives OK Computer's habit of depressing lyrics with beautiful songs, although now, the songs aren't so much beautiful and mellow as.. peppy. I guess. 15 Step, Bodysnatchers, Reckoner and House of Cards are some of the better ones.

If I were you, and you've only listened to OK Computer, I'd check out The Bends and In Rainbows first and then go from there.

[Any thoughts? You guys think that's an accurate description? I had a pretty hard time describing their music.]

 

08/29/09 6:41 PM

Dont say listen to In Limbo, cause it might be ''too weird?'', anyway, I would post a ton of links to live vids and whatnot, but the person asking isnt there yet, so hopefully you listen to the records and give us your thoughts. They play their final shows in support of In Rainbows this weekend in the U.K.. A break will ensure, how long? nobody knows, I hope they maybe do some theatres in europe next year, I would liek to do soem traveling while seeing one of my favorite bands also in the process.

 

08/29/09 6:54 PM

Kid A sounds right up my alley, I'll be sure to check that out as well as the rest of their work later on. Thanks for the descriptions! It helped a lot.

 

08/29/09 8:09 PM

suprefan posted:
Dont say listen to In Limbo, cause it might be ''too weird?''

Yeah, this is probably a good call. What about Motion Picture Soundtrack? I think he'd like that one.

On Amnesiac being a jazz album: I was going to write that, but I was unsure. It has a lot of jazz influence and horns but I didn't know if it was the right way to describe it to a new listener. Still, good call. By the way, have you heard the full version of Life in a Glass House? it's pretty awesome.

 

08/30/09 8:25 AM

the closest RH have come to jazz is definitely Life in a Glasshouse, but that's about all. the use of horns on The National Anthem surely doesn't make it a jazz song, and those are the only two from the Kid A/Amnesiac sessions i can recall that use horns. you're definitely accurate in saying that there was a jazz influence, but Amnesiac is far, far away from a jazz album!

 

08/30/09 9:20 AM

seasonsinthesky posted:
the closest RH have come to jazz is definitely Life in a Glasshouse, but that's about all. the use of horns on The National Anthem surely doesn't make it a jazz song, and those are the only two from the Kid A/Amnesiac sessions i can recall that use horns. you're definitely accurate in saying that there was a jazz influence, but Amnesiac is far, far away from a jazz album!

Agreed.

Zero 7's remix of Climbing Up The Walls has a lounge, nu-jazz touch.

 

08/30/09 1:43 PM

ningamer posted:
Kid A sounds right up my alley, I'll be sure to check that out as well as the rest of their work later on. Thanks for the descriptions! It helped a lot.

no problem, after you are done you gotta watch some live video stuff, and then youll see how much different they do things on a lot of songs.



Imaginary_Kevin posted:
suprefan posted:
Dont say listen to In Limbo, cause it might be ''too weird?''

Yeah, this is probably a good call. What about Motion Picture Soundtrack? I think he'd like that one.

On Amnesiac being a jazz album: I was going to write that, but I was unsure. It has a lot of jazz influence and horns but I didn't know if it was the right way to describe it to a new listener. Still, good call. By the way, have you heard the full version of Life in a Glass House? it's pretty awesome.

Yeah its really awesome. too bad they will never play it live again. The one time they did, one of the horn players died a week later or something. Thom got so upset he said they woudl never play it again.



seasonsinthesky posted:
the closest RH have come to jazz is definitely Life in a Glasshouse, but that's about all. the use of horns on The National Anthem surely doesn't make it a jazz song, and those are the only two from the Kid A/Amnesiac sessions i can recall that use horns. you're definitely accurate in saying that there was a jazz influence, but Amnesiac is far, far away from a jazz album!

So You and Whose Army being inspired by the old group The Ink Spots doesnt count? Dollars and Cents isnt covered in jazz either? Get your ears checked kid. I said I call it the jazz album cause thats the feel. And Life in a Glasshouse makes you feel like youre in New Orleans. And all I was saying was saying they used this or that on things, not straight out. Remember we are trying to help somebody listen to new music and making it easier on them to understand.

 

08/30/09 1:50 PM

lol. I love to pick apart radiohead songs!

Optimistic is one of my favorites.

 
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