Is that easily understood?

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LoudLoudNoise posted:

Tool's songs are hardly cryptic and aren't full of hidden messages. They're quite straightforward and are very easy to understand.

I think so too.

lysergicide posted:

Is that easily understood?

Sure! Rosetta Stoned is easy to understand. Drugs are fun, but don't do them too often because they can f**k you up - the main message is that simple. Of course there is more. You can try to figure out the precise meaning of every metaphor, of every little detail, but what's the point? Wouldn't that be taking your focus away from the main message?
"Over thinking, over analyzing separates the body from the mind."

ludivigo posted:

"Over thinking, over analyzing" is a good thing. Separating the body from the mind is a good thing.

maybe.

i know a good way of separating the body from the mind, guillotine.



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ludivigo posted:

You're missing the point. "Over thinking, over analyzing" is a good thing. Separating the body from the mind is a good thing.

I thought I don't need to quote that whole segment of the song, because everyone knows it.
Well, the lyrics go like this:

"Over thinkin', over analyzing separates the body from the mind
Withering my intuition leaving all these opportunities behind"
These are good things too? I don't think so...
IMO we are not suppose to over think it, because then we focus on details instead of simply feeling the song. Didn't the band explain that's why they are not adding lyrics to their albums? So people could simply listen to it and absorb it as a whole instead of focusing on some part of it.

jimniemedium posted:

i dont know why everyone is getting such an attitude about 10,000 days, i think its their best album, my personal favorite. they took everything they have experimented with in the past and made a new and more stylized and overall more creative sound. i cant say enough about it, adam has never been more interesting, justin has proved that he is one of the best bassists out there and danny is officially untouchable. now i will say maynard's voice is not what is used to be but when he sings i am still moved and he still experiments with what he can do which is a great thing. having said that i still love all their other stuff and i wish they had played more of it on this last tour, but if you want a diverse collection of songs just go see Nails lol this new tour is a must see.

love always, jimnie.

Yeah I agree. 10,000 days is probably my second favorite, of course just behind Lateralus. I won't lie though, when I went out and bought 10,000 days I gave it a listen and I was a little heart broken, but it grew on me like non other. 10,000 days is rich with so many different musical elements. It's one of their best and one of my favorites of all time.

The thing that I find funny is that Maynard has stated quite clearly in the past

"I am just a worthless liar...trust in me and fall as well...I will find a center in you...I will chew it up and leave...trust me...trust me..."

So if you take into account what he's saying in other songs, say "Over thinking, over analyzing separates the body from the mind...(and so forth)" You really should listen to him and you should think about what he's talking about...because there are hidden messages. Like the one that I just pointed out.

Tool's lyrics are a complex web...and you really shouldn't put much emphasis on Maynard, because I'm pretty sure that Adam has a lot of input into the content of the song. Maynard just makes is personal. But I'm pretty sure, that as a whole, TOOL is Adam's band. He's said so himself.

I will make these few points to show you that there is more...

Faaip De Oiad (Which means the voice of God by the way) - "What we think of as aliens are extra dimensional beings..."

Rosetta Stoned - "DMT...Then the X-File Being...E Mother Fucking T!"

DMT is said to be the chemical gate way to other dimensions. And there are numerous cases of people seeing these same exact alien beings while taking DMT.

My opinion?

DMT is released into your body during REM sleep. Have you ever noticed that external stimuli can effect your dream? Such as the TV (See You Auntie...C U On T...V, Eye on the TV) being or music being played.

Imagine that there are radiowaves being sent through the air that you can only perceive or hear while under the effects of DMT. (You had better listen!) And that because of the effects of this substance, it's creating a dreamlike effect, you come to believe what's taking place. It becomes your reality. Just like when you're having a really weird dream, but it makes since to you while your dreaming until you wake up and realize that it made no sense at all. Same thing here. So we get a bunch of stories and accounts about alien abduction. Because the Illuminati (The Illuminated Ones) are trying to set up a one world government. What better way to accomplish this than to have millions of people believe in things like evolution and galactic psychic abilities and then have space aliens (a grand hallucination designed to fool the entire world) appear and show people the light and path to freedom! They come in and offer ways of a peaceful government through their grand technology! But lo and behold! This is the New World Order! The one world government. And because everyone is living in a "perfect" dream world no one will challenge anything and they will be completely unaware of this. Hence the words of Christ (The Light of the World) keep on the watch and STAY AWAKE that the thief might not break in and steal your outer garment that you might walk naked and people see your shamefulness! Those who oppose will simply be removed and a fabrication will come forth so that those who accept will not suspect anything bad happening.

PS

Maynard is MAJORLY into conspiracy theories.

And on the TOOL website there was a newletter posted around the time of this albums release...I believe after they published the lyrics to it...

Hold up...think about that for a moment...

HE FUCKING PUBLISHED THE LYRICS TO ROSETTA STONED ON THE OFFICIAL TOOL WEBSITE?!?!? WTF?

Anyways...in said news letter there is mention of "the hand writting on the wall" which is a reference to the bible book of Daniel in which Babylon receives a message about it's being destroyed and handed over, which that night it takes place.

And of course...in the book of Revelation Babylon the Great is called the great city that has a kingdom over the kings of the earth...that is the figurative city of the Illuminati and more clearly the Vatican.

The End.

I've loved Tool almost as long as NIN.
I've seen them live only twice.
I LOVE Danny's drum solos.
He's one of my favorite drumers ever.
It took me a few listens but I grew to love 10,000 Days.
I think I listen to Aenima and 10K Days the most.
I really want to get into Lateralus again.

janedoepa posted:

Tool seems like a more, how do I say this...cerebral??? NIN focuses on the emotional/internal in terms of intellect but TOOL is out there metaphysical/scientific intellectual do you understand?

I do understand what you're trying to say. I agree.

I would say that Tool makes me think more, while NIN makes me feel more.


Two very different bands...but each one unique, and incredible



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Knifymolok0 posted:

Their artwork is kickass and disturbing. wonder what the infatuation with symmetry is...

You mean sacred geometry.

i like justin chancellor's first band PEACH giving birth to a stone,a very underrated album.

tvl73 posted:

i like justin chancellor's first band PEACH giving birth to a stone,a very underrated album.

I'm trying to find it but i think i'm gonna have to buy it on amzon or whatever. I love the way Chancellor sounds (during 10,000 days for instance). And he has beautiful hair (see av'), he could compete with Finck

Justin has amazing head banging hair too.

DasSee posted:

And he has beautiful hair (see av'), he could compete with Finck

It's true! Chancellor has some kick-ass hair