Misskabuki posted:

I honestly thought that Long hard road was a whiny, boring read. It has its moments, but he always seems to put the responsibility on someone else. Someone else's Idea to get stupid high, someone else's idea to do something terrible to innocent retarded fans. I loved The first 3 albums but i can't stand how high on himself he is. Its a shame he feels he has to date someone so young just to get publicity nowadays. whatever if he wants to shock and surprise he should wash off the make-up, and do an acoustic set, LOL. I'd pay to see that.

Mechanical_Worm posted:

ETP Festival
Seoul, South Korea
August 15th, 2008

1. Cruci-Fiction In Space
2. Disposable Teens
3. Irresponsible Hate Anthem
4. Great Big White World
5. mOBSCENE
6. If I was your vampire
7.T he Love Song
8. Sweet Dreams/ RnR Nigger
9. Tourniquet
10. Little Horn
11. Reflecting God
12. The Dope Show
13. Rock Is Dead
14. 1996
15. Antichrist Superstar
16. The Beautiful People

Marilyn Manson
Wes Borland
Twiggy Ramirez
Chris Vrenna
Ginger Fish

puppyskin posted:

Jesus freaking Christ.

I'm not on here to preach, or brag or whatever really but seriously. This fight has been fought since forever ago, even back when Manson and Reznor were great friends. I've been a fan of Manson for 15 years (fuck I'm old as shit huh?) and have seen him change time and time again. I'm also a huge NIN fan, remixing his music was a god send to me . They are two different entities even though they both worked together at one point. WHO CARES! So this one likes Manson, this one likes NIN and they both hate the other. I listen to the music, I have watched the videos, I've seen Manson in concert more times than I can honestly remember and yet it doesn't fucking matter because it's my choice. I love the band. Who cares what people think and despite his ups and downs he still has good songs. To be honest there are some songs I don't like, I mean come on how can one person love each and every song someone puts out?

Each and every single Manson fan has a favorite "era". I wasn't too fond of the Mechanical Animals era but still admired it enough for it's completely different sound than any other album at that time. HolyWood was awesome. To be honest Eat Me, Drink Me is like a razor to me since I kind of went through a fucked up relationship around the time it was released and saw him in concert this past Feb. with my now ex, so it's one of those I listen to sparingly. Fact of it is - WHO CARES!

As for his influence - what have you done so impressive (important or not) that has attracted the media and millions of people? Seriously - I'm not shit and I'm not going to go and pretend like I am, neither should you (whoever YOU are), unless of course you deserve the attention and / or the adoration of millions of people around the world. It may be your opinion but still - masses speak larger than individuals. Times change but whether you like it or not - Manson DID influence the music industry AND caused such an uproar of protest that few people have managed to accomplish in DECADES. Let's just pretend that he didn't get as big as he did - at least he tried.

Despite the fact that Manson has lost the media coverage he used to receive I still listen to his music, I still watch the videos. I still admire him for what he has done. It's been a hell of a ride. He's almost 40 years old and I can remember him saying that he won't go out like The Rolling Stones, rocking in walkers, he would rather go out while still somewhat young. Nobody stays on top forever but he's been around longer than %90 of the one hit wonders that pollute the media with pure, absolute recycled shit.

If you don't like him - don't listen. I don't care - neither should you.

ninboy212 posted:

Marilyn Manson has turned kinda...emo.The only albums i liked were...