Ha, I get the "end of the page" curse.

It's alright, it was an essay anyways.

i love her.

For those who don't think Gaga has any talent, just watch this:
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thats pretty cool. i never knew lady gaga would ever do that kinda thing with apiano. i think shes cool with her rebellious nature, like a female marilyn manson back in the day. i still think she sounds too much like the other crappy dance music on much music and mtv. i like a couple songs tho.

Regarding the infamous "pre-Gaga" video, I'll repost here what I did on youtube:

So I'll be honest here. This is good. The music is good, and her singing is good. But lyrically, it IS very pop-ish. Sticking to a very singular love theme, when I really think she should have branched out into deeper subjects. If she kept playing and kept growing, I could see this happening. I don't know what happened to her along the way to have her become a corporate sellout icon, but it really is a shame.

heatherette333 posted:

i love her.

This.

Calderon08 posted:

What is wrong with singing about love?

Nothing's wrong with singing about love. But Lady Gaga doesn't just sing about love, she uses love as a metaphor for EVERYTHING. Or everything as a metaphor for love.

For example, her "Paparazzi" song/video/thing is ostensibly about celebrity. One could make a case that the video was about the overlap between sex and violence, and media's obsession with both.

But that's not what the song is about. The SONG is about obsessively pursuing a boy. The fame stuff is just a metaphor.

And "Bad Romance?" Also about pursuing a boy. "Love Game?" She wants the boy. "Poker Face?" You see a pattern here?

There's nothing wrong with wanting the boy. Girls all over the world want boys. But if you ignore Lady Gaga's videos, fashion, performances, and hype and focus JUST on her music, then what do you have?

Lots of songs about wanting boys.

Calderon08 posted:

What is wrong with singing about love? Maybe those that don't want to hear about love all the time because they have never experienced such? If someone has experienced love, heartbreak then there are tons of songs to be written about it. Why does music always have to be political or anger/hate/depressed content? I don't know about everyone here but I like to listen to a variety of things...

Exactly, variety. If you ONLY stick to writing love songs, you're a one trick pony. Not to mention that love is arguably the most common topic used in songs in most genres. Not to say that any artist/band that sings about love is bad. The Beatles had a lot of love songs. You know what they also had? Variety. That's what it comes down to. And she has no lyrical variety.

Calderon08 posted:

^^ Listen..for ppl who claim to hate her you ppl sure do a lot of analyzing her music LOL When I don't like something I don't sit around thinking and analyzing it. As LBoogie said...her songs are fun to work out to. do you go to a gym and work out Scott? I like to run and running to NIN just doesn't do it for me. I like variety in music...I don't give a fuck anymore about what anyone writes about cause there is few bands/musicians out there with any substance anyways. Fuck..I could write an album about how I hate George Bush...everyone writes the same shit. Comparing lets say lady Gaga new album to..The Slip...umm both are not any sort of masterpeices in the writing.

So, since I saw nothing in there even attempting to resemble a relevant rebuttal, I assume that you agree her songs have no variety or substance? All I saw were a bunch of random, scrambled attempts at making others look worse to match your level. This was the same thing as the Antichrist thread. You need to improve on your debating skills.

EDIT: I might as well add something to what you said, I've got nothing else to do right now. Yes, The Slip had a very singular theme to it. It was about Trent's feelings about getting older and having changed so much since the 90s. Here's the thing though: he doesn't repeat the same subject in every album, he uses lyrical variety. Here's an example:
Pretty Hate Machine: A "love" album, or one about lost love at that
Broken: Anger towards those who wish to hold him still or contain him
The Downward Spiral: A concept of what he saw his life becoming if he continued along along that path, a "portrait of a hypothetical suicide" according to a long interview with him I found.
The Fragile: A mix of emotions really. We see senses of loss, desire, hate, anger, and attempts at reaching "the surface" of happiness that he seemed to desire so much. This is both the most depressing and varied NIN album in my opinion, there's a lot of things going on.
With Teeth: A commentary on his past addiction, rehabilitation and struggles to stay clean.
Year Zero: A fictional tale of the world ending, if it continues on the course that it does now. This is a concept album, much like TDS. Except it is extrospective, looking outside at the world's issues instead of his own.
The Slip: As I said, his worries and observations on growing older and changing.

Comparing Trent's discography to Lady Gaga's doesn't really hold much weight, he's clearly got more going on in his music than her. So don't even try that.



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forkintheeye posted:

I don't really care for her, but if she was deeper - as some would like her to be it seems - then she would no longer be Pop. Um, duh?

Not true. Pop is an extremely broad genre, nearly all music you hear these days can be classified as pop. Hell, most rock falls into the pop category without sounding "pop-ish". However, pop-like music doesn't have to go hand in hand with shallow, bland lyrics about love or materialization. She could easily write more substantial lyrics and keep her pop image. I'd prefer she went back to playing the piano, but I don't see that happening.

It's funny to me when people get seriously offended at the fact that you may enjoy a commercial artist. We can't all listen to heavy, deep meaningful music all day. Sometimes we need candy. We know it's not the greatest for us, but damn does it taste good.

LBoogie posted:

We can't all listen to heavy, deep meaningful music all day. Sometimes we need candy.

The problem is when people consume candy and THINK it's heavy, deep, and meaningful. Then they go on message boards like this one talking about what a great ARTIST their candy-dispenser is.

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AnnaDraconida posted:

She is so ugly. So very, very ugly.

LMFAO. be nice, that's just her morning coke face.

i think she looks like a young jeff goldblum in this..circa. 1987
around the time the fly was made. good movie btw.

LMFAO

Kind of reminds me of the movie Monster, about the prostitute killing people.

This thread is so fail.

And I don't mean that in the way you think I mean.

Neutra Face - An Ode To Typeface ( A Bearded Poker Face Parody)

This parody is fantastic