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12/13/11 7:57 AM

a reply smiling smiley

To judge oneself with good intentions I think is good.


Self standards vary through time
The pinwheel looks alive,a
translator that likes to spin
with even
skill of *reaching input & output
the busied can't always get there
to celebrate life...with affordance whist of what tries..
alive beyond divided perception
Do translation and complacency fight.
The pinwheel is very alive.

 

12/13/11 5:20 PM

I can only define what I am, and what I am is what I make, the creation of which gives the illusion of time. If I define the reality by perceiving it... are we not all living in our own private universes?

Signal coherency is the sublimated finition skipped over when you nod your head and remove all barriers from receiving that which is given to you.

It's not for everyone... but just so you know. Define no rules and they only become clearer.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 12/13/2011 05:24PM by pieceofnothing.

 

12/13/11 6:56 PM

i hope it's o.k. that i reply..your work is enspiring and i hope what i write mays (springs) nicely.

"private universes" was tasty*
and "Define no rules they become clearer" led me to a memory of times damned (hurt) by social model of prototype..i was quiet, yet eventually learned to use my voice

[in venomous comedy

prototype 'original' sin]


grinning smiley

 

12/14/11 1:23 AM

Of course it's ok to reply, it gets lonely in here.

Define more rules, and it become harder to see.

 

12/14/11 5:06 AM

Yes! I will prototype new ideas, stumble upon old forgotten ones, and dust them off to call my own... the record of these inane ramblings are wasted if they're not saved, it gives one a chance to feel with conviction in new ideas and then later to look back and say, boy how wrong I was, or what have you. That is what this is... a record, I like to learn from my past thoughts when I form new ones, maybe you can find something here too if you can relate to anything I say, good, if not, enjoy the show... for madmen and madwomen only.

I tried to explain the other day to a someone that people don't actually see anything, we simulate it in our minds and view it there. We have our unique eccentricities of how we perceive, but most often we do not actually see the person in front of us but the one we have already created in our minds... with all negative or positive connotations attached toward that image of the perception.

If all my life, I only perceived sensation through the end of my big toe, I would conclude that my big toe perceived the world, but in fact this is not true, it received information (signals) from the world, and the brain interpreted them, what we take from that interpretation is our understanding, and it commonly attempts to fill in the gaps of what we don't understand with information that is simply. no more or no less than, 'to the best of our understanding'.

Trying to say I see through my eyes is another fallacy of understanding which hinders my ability to actually understand the world around me as energetic signal emissions and their place in a static coherency found within the transmission medium we've come to call reality... our eyes only limit the extent of our ability to perceive wavelengths other than those that transmit in a 'visible' spectrum.

The brain is a much more powerful sensor than we have uses for, so it seems only natural to seem that it is 'built' to accept expansions on its backend while still keeping backward compatibility for older information retrieval systems intact.

To define the process of which the (my) mind works is best transposed in the workings of a machine. I find it is similar to an interferometer to say, in which all of the sensors we have thus far accumulated to interpret our external environment has been in order to determine "is this 'this', or is this 'that?" Each lens a diffraction on the same discrete wave-particle duality, showing in each their own unique view of the position, spin, and momentum of each electron passing through its conduit. This creates a pattern that is stored in a string of similar or related patterns in the buildup of chains of whatever is available to record a state, in our case lipid carbon chains. This system is reinforced by automated stimuli reaction which is the course of the process of evolution, all possible meta-states for a given wave function are simulated at the same time and only the rational (as defined by natural law) will remain, and then again, all possible new mutations are attempted until only the most likely candidate to survive is produced over and over again.

I'm not just a paranoid android, a soft mushy machine...
I wonder how long it will take before people realize they don't have to do the same thing as everyone else in order to excuse themselves from having to find anything better to do with themselves. No one needs to look like everyone else or buy big screen TV's, but damn it feels good to do so. What is 'it' to have insatiable needs to consume but I feel like watching a movie. I like gathering light in my eye holes and compressing them to energy to be passed through my light and color detection manifolds. This is in order be interpreted as enjoyable experiences by my sub-conscious and thus begins the release of endorphins... ahhhhhhhhh perfect. Pattern matching is a skill better left to machines. I'm just here for the ride. It's easy to become addicted to anything, that's why it's easier to just keep trying something new. Was Schopenhauer right? Yet I defy this hypothesis with my existence and yet, as you can see the world is obviously as backwards as can be. Am I more blind in admitting I do not see, but perceive? Is anyone any less blind? Am I more wrong for admitting I could be wrong? Is anyone ever right? How hard is it to see how unsustainable this model is/has become?

Why not change?



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12/16/11 4:39 AM

It is good to find strength in every experience you undertake, if it is your shoulder's force in order to move a great weight, or the mind's understanding to find great peace... our intentions and perceptions of the world greatly affect the things we allow ourselves to physically encounter. If I feel negatively about a situation, chances are it will end up negatively... the same with positivity.

I am sorry for those who have been perceived as bad unjustly, as all people deserve the same respect and love we know in our hearts we deserve. If we cannot give this respect to others, how I ask, can we have it for ourselves?

 

12/16/11 7:08 AM

A person,first,has to have respect,compassion,and a tolerance for other human beings...no matter what they my choose to use as their strength.This,before one can allow to have such for themselves...keep in mind...we are talking about human beings.Some people ARE NOT human beings,the eye's give them away...unless it's your employer!

Seriously,we see it everyday,on the news,in the street,while you wait in line to buy your coffee.Some are so narrow in their mind,whether it's cutting in line to buy their candy bar or taking something from someone by force...they have no human attributes.

Next time that you are pulled over by the police,if you are ever pulled over by the police,if you have done nothing wrong...treat that office with respect and courtesy and nine times out of ten you will be treated the same and sent on your way without a citation.Believe me,I've tested this one out many times.What you create around you is what you will receive.Not always true,we all have had that time in our lives that we don't want to remember.Most of it put upon us by others,by non-humans.

 

12/16/11 2:15 PM

We always have the option to allow ourselves to see instead the parts of people that make us laugh at how seriously confused people are, and how you are shown the impermanence in all things in their actions... which are like a child's, of which screams out not to show its purpose or reason for living, as it truly has none and remembers nothing. They only emphasize their very existence, afraid that if one was not shouting it louder than the rest of the world, they might simply cease to exist!

What a way to live... I would not recommend it, but I will not deny that without the trials they so needlessly create for the world, in fact, without them we would have no will to power, to change, to better ourselves, to see ourselves as imperfect (who has taught us this?) and find our own way in the mist. You are stronger for searching to find an answer that doesn't include you becoming one of those poor souls.



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12/16/11 3:01 PM

pieceofnothing posted:
We always have the option to allow ourselves to see instead the parts of people that make us laugh at how seriously confused people are, and how you are shown the impermanence in all things in their actions... which are like a child's, of which screams out not to show its purpose or reason for living, as it truly has none and remembers nothing. They only emphasize their very existence, afraid that if one was not shouting it louder than the rest of the world, they might simply cease to exist!

What a way to live... I would not recommend it, but I will not deny that without the trials they so needlessly create for the world, in fact, without them we would have no will to power, to change, to better ourselves, to see ourselves as imperfect (who has taught us this?) and find our own way in the mist. You are stronger for searching to find an answer that doesn't include you becoming one of those poor souls.

So true...Who taught us...the previous generation,and who taught them...

 

12/16/11 4:55 PM

If people are not human, are they machines? I like to think so.

 

12/17/11 6:29 AM

Machines are not self centered,(though I think my PC is) or give you the shirt off their back...give you their last 5 dollars if it helps you out more then them. It's just unfortunate that some only think of themselves and won't lend a helping hand.

I drove out-of-town one day to visit friends,stopped at the gas station to fill up before arriving at my friends house,they where not awake yet anyways,and a senior ladies car had stalled half way into the intersection.The three drivers behind her honked their horns at her and drove around her as if she was doing this on purpose.I pulled my Blazer up behind her and got out to ask her if she needed some help.Chained up to her car,pulled her up the hill,explained what I wanted her to do to unhook the chain and then pushed her car into the service station.As I was putting stuff away,in the middle of the road...who is going to mess with a 30 year old Blazer...the attendant came up to me to hand me a 5 dollar bill.I turned it down,of all my problems money is not a concern,as he starts to insist that I accept stating that she is the one insisting as she stands by the side of the road,yelling at me that I better take it...it's all about the gesture.

The gesture of helping a stranger in a time of need,the gesture of showing appreciation...



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12/17/11 10:24 AM

" If people aren't human are they machines"

pieceofnothing - professor mucho..hehea

I thought to write of concert of the subject "threatening" ( character suppositions of it.. is very interesting)
I turn to think of the word human and humane then Sublimation and then
the concert of Closedness Based on Value & Morale Differences...

It's all a big Breadth?-

smiling smiley*

 

12/17/11 9:39 PM

Anything that I can grasp is an extension of myself, to the engineer, his rule is himself and it's purpose is twofold in its creation of the bearer's will, and it's somatic effect upon those wielding it. We acquire objects through manifesting our self in the times which it is ours... but that is something else entirely.

If anything is an extension of my self, it is my body, which is just another tool that I control. If I can control my understanding of the symbolism of the world around me then that too is just another extension of my self. Those who don't realize this use order to strengthen the understanding that they are in fact the tool they possess and nothing else, they are not in control because they cannot see beyond themselves, how they fit into the world.

@ghostshot: It seems to me that you wish to treat other's as you would yourself wish to be treated... not a new maxim by any means, yet still so meagerly understood. It is most rewarding to give without any thought of gaining anything in return.

@anew: In meditations on the idea of being human, I think being human is possessing the sapience of knowing inhumanity and its values in comparison to its opposite... superhuman; to be human is to find the mean of the two.

I wish to tell a story...

According to a Haida story, in the beginning the world was in total darkness.

The Raven, who had existed from the beginning of time, was tired of groping about and bumping into things in the dark.

Eventually the Raven came upon the home of an old man who lived alone with his daughter. Through his slyness, the Raven learned that the old man had a great treasure. This was all the light in the universe, contained in a tiny box concealed within many boxes.

At once the Raven vowed to steal the light.

He thought and thought, and finally came up with a plan. He waited until the old man's daughter came to the river to gather water. Then the Raven changed himself into a single hemlock needle and dropped himself into the river, just as the girl was dipping her water-basket into the river.

As she drank from the basket, she swallowed the needle. It slipped and slithered down into her warm belly, where the Raven transformed himself again, this time into a tiny human. After sleeping and growing there for a very long time, at last the Raven emerged into the world once more, this time as a human infant.

Even though he had a rather strange appearance, the Raven's grandfather loved him. But the old man threatened dire punishment if he ever touched the precious treasure box. Nonetheless the Ravenchild begged and begged to be allowed to hold the light just for a moment.

In time the old man yielded, and lifted from the box a warm and glowing sphere, which he threw to his grandson.

As the light was moving toward him, the human child transformed into a gigantic black shadowy bird-form, wings spread ready for flight, and beak open in anticipation. As the beautiful ball of light reached him, the Raven captured it in his beak!

Moving his powerful wings, he burst through the smokehole in the roof of the house, and escaped into the darkness with his stolen treasure.

And that is how light came into the universe.

Source of the text for revisiting

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If I wear the vestments and portray the actions of an angel, am I not one? If I live like the devil, am I not one?



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12/20/11 1:54 PM

Reality as it is put, that so many people I meet seem to think they hold in common with eachother, is a very cruel joke at their own expense. One readily available fabrication is government by justice, of the people, for the people. It is just a fairy tale adults like to believe in, like Santa Claus or the Easter bunny. Like children screaming too, maybe the lost hope that some eternal mother can come save them from the troubles of life as alluded to by Freud. However, Psychoanalysis is a good tool for diagnostics upon MACHINES. Human beings, and other sapient intelligences possessing a 'self' defy such stasis of symbolism. There are people who have lost, or never found purpose. They try to create order through control... they define their world and think they by extension have dominated it, just by creating a mental image of it in their mind. They tie themselves to the idea that their body is the essence of their self and that this impermanence is all that will ever matter in the universe. What could be more clearly wrong? Why are people so occupied with death, if they are convinced that they go to heaven where everything is great, why fear death? In the symbolism of God that has been created and passed off as truth, Muslim extremists must truly be the closest in contact with this 'true word of god' by having no fear at dying for their 'belief'; Like I said, a cruel joke.

That is what it is like to believe, to know without a doubt. If you don't know, you don't believe.

Religion has been over for a long time, and in such a large world with so many problems, you'd think there would be more answers, even by accident. It seems convenient these questions all people ask to themselves whether they're answered or not, are mysteriously offered by religion still in new packages, promising this or that if you do whatever they're asking, oh and don't forget to pay your holy fee, because God loves money! The scam of ages.

I wonder how long a dumb mule will follow a hotdog on a stick.

I don't mean to dismiss any purpose or reason for being, on the contrary, I would only wish to sweep away the lies so that people can learn them new all over again. If in that they have even a chance to come upon something old, but is new to them, that gives them power and hope and allows them to pass it on... that is what I truly want. I don't wish to dismiss the miracle of creation, I don't wish to make reality boring, or to infer that I understand it all. I merely want to point out the noise on the wire, the ghost in the machine, the wanting and desiring for ideas and understandings that lead us out of slavery, out of devotion to static ideas. It is into the new and what we are taught we should fear, that is the true joy of life... in discovering that which is new, not to understand it all, but in the understanding there is always something more!

Also, toward the deconstruction of evolutionists that think they have come to the final answers: Adaptation is not the only answer. Why would the universe spontaneously coalesce a chicken in order to lay the egg? The same reason I question my own existence, as necessity to fill the void. Evolution: The gradual development of something, esp. from a simple to a more complex form. If all the universe was a static null interaction of frozen emptiness, devoid of everything, what put the first simplicity there? What created the first energy to expended in the first reaction? The creation of the universe, the space within, and the energetic signals therein, was also the creation of the eternal soul that was the essence of the very creation in order to question the compact causality of all things combined in perfect unison against the very absence of all things. If we are the residuals of that signal, we are that source as well. It is not the creation but the necessity that created it, it is that which is soul.

The body and mind of men are only important (if at all) as the telescope of the astronomer to him. If the telescope were destroyed it would make no appreciable difference to the Universe which that telescope reveals. The answer is clearly visible with or without the instruments of which we ply our curiosity.

The first preliminary step of conscious understanding, sapient thought, is to understand you are capable of suffering, and causing suffering, and are anxious to transcend it. This is true of any religion. Is it really the premise of modern religion though? Or is is modern religion based on going on what you are told to feel... Why should the rest be well defined? Is all the embellishment necessary for something all people can translate equally? I've found myself in other people, the parts that matter, the parts that I can remember starting all of this. The parts of myself that were unique to me alone, the thoughts I've had that I thought only I could possibly have. I've shared and they've shared and understood the same thing... why should I fear that any part of me will ever be lost?

The soul is very worthy of defining, I would dare you to try and I know that if you spent your whole life in effort you'd be no closer to a definition. You would, however, be closer to actually enjoying the things you had or have but may not of noticed before, simple things that I feel many people will never know, like peace, connection in unity, real understanding beyond communication. All I know is, I cannot define the soul in order to give it to someone else, it is more than the tools of the machine, and not under its control to convey, and thus cannot trap it by understanding it, it cannot be destroyed like truth and lies.

 

12/23/11 11:14 PM

How meaningless any of my words are. I will end this charade. I am sorry I never came to summation, but perhaps back at the start was were I originally endeavored unknowingly, anyway.

I want someone to tell me I'm wrong, I've tried throwing around enough assumptions to make anyone a fool but I have not found one voice of dissent, nor reasoning by method of argument.

Everything is, exactly as it is, no other way it could be, exactly as it should be... and that includes your faith in its purpose, which is ultimately meaningless to you or it. The will to life not only demands such contradictions, the alternations are the power of which this grand engine churns out endlessly new stories to be told.

You cannot change the world, as a contrivance of symbolism stuck in your mind, but you can change your world, and that is all that matters.

 

01/09/12 4:20 AM

To cause the feeling of being unable to change things is in my opinion the root purpose of the system of objects of which we exist within. Control is exerted over us in every facet of communication and transaction of information.... It is difficult to speak with an artificially limited vocabulary of which we have been given. I think it would be easier for people to understand eachother if they all spoke another language, or at least realize how that even though others say words we recognize, they mean different things and some signal is lost in translation from transceiver to receiver.

Reception of information in a new format, or at least one foreign to our vocabulary, is best understood through the exchange of symbols and pattern analysis is used to break down the rest. Symbols become the basic subset for the growth of new languages, new codexes, new laws... but what of any of that is right? How does one impose a morality on another without both parties being upon equal ground... true communication is only possible between equals.

I digress... all this talk of symbols is only to point out the necessity of our actions, our apparent desires for change are only possible because of the very ideas we might rally against. It is funny how information is changed simply with time, how meaning is lost and new ones are invented.
Some might say hierarchy is bad, but without the first technological e1ite to separate populations with ideologies to protect themselves and their people from viruses, chemical and logical, then we might all still be philosophical zombies. With no need to process anything other than what we are told to do, our brains would be able to be fed information without filters.
Some say anarchy is bad, but without the threat to push people to invent the necessary set of symbols to convey the laws they wish to define, we would of never been able to question them either. The very systems built to confine and contain us are what give us also the possibility of freedom, to choose to be free from that same protection...

Somewhere in the middle, in the seemingly impossible bleeding edge of reality where the two exist simultaneously is pure existence. I find myself to be a necessary expression in this all. If I change only what I am supposed to change, or do not change, as expressed in whatever discontent I may harbor, am I still not only doing what I am supposed to? What control does anyone really have? What would it give someone to know either way? Some questions have no answer.



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01/14/12 3:28 AM

DIALOGUES I

X: I'm not interested in all this fucking progression. fuck it all.
me: hmm?
X: god's plan of suffering for the universe.
X: it sucks
me: ah, I see.
me: that's just a value to be unlearned and changed.
X: it's idiotic.
X: it's a waste of time.
me: In my optimistic rendition of reality it is a natural process in the evolution of our consciousness, and the toppling of religion and god...
X: you can't topple the all powerful. winking smiley
me: It is true, we were God all along, capable of anything, but what we lost is our robotic ability to simply do what we're told, more what we've told ourselves.
X: have you seen the movie Iron Man?
me: yes
X: see if I were god wouldn't I be living like him? fucking hoes and driving bugattis and all that?
X: having the money and intelligence to build a flying suit.
me: that is a memory artifact, left over from the false teachings of those that believed in lies and that those before them taught them and so forth.
me: the wills and desires of man are unquenchable, so then, the only truly attainable quest in life is one for attempting to negate these desires.
X: that sounds like Buddhism.
me: ultimately to be the happiest being in the universe with the least necessary stimuli.
X: desire is the root of all suffering.
me: so, do you think that when you suffer no more, you are enlightened?
X: same as being dead.
X: suicide is next to godliness winking smiley
me: of course... many things in life are a lot like being dead, and one usually isn't very happy doing it... like waking up every day to a false set of ideals, desires... emotional, physical, and sexual... and wondering why you're alive, wanting to go back to sleep... you're contemplating suicide before you know it.
X: ...
me: I suppose then without the necessity of big words, grand explanations, and all of this ritual one proscribes to, as if anyone could ever truly understand another... does it not seem healthy then to try to do whatever possible to just be happy.. perhaps you never will be, but perhaps with better understanding you can be, that's a motivator.
X: do you have a choice?
me: I can be just to be, but I'd like to think it has a meaning, even if it is just 'what if?'
me: what if I never wanted or needed anymore? I will probably never know, I feel it is a goal worth seeking however.
me: if I had free choice, and the universe was built to be perfect and there was a god, I should be able to do whatever I want, at any time, I would be able to pray to god and say to him, I don't like this planet god, make me a new one and I shall make it better than all that came before in worship of your name. I wouldn't have to worry about my purpose or reason for existence in a cosmos, it wouldn't even occur to me. (Un?)fortunately we are no longer an automatons, all that is left is that we recognize this and write your own ending.
me: At any rate, know that in every breath you take you defy the static condition of death, you become alive, though you are given life, you must learn on your own like everyone else how to use that gift.

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"Real isn't how you are made," said the Skin Horse. "It's a thing that happens to you. When a child really loves you for a long, long time, not just to play with, but REALLY loves you, then you become Real."

"Does it hurt?" asked the Rabbit.

"Sometimes," said the Skin Horse, for he was always truthful. "When you are Real you don't mind being hurt."

"Does it happen all at once, like being wound up," he asked, "or bit by bit?"

"It doesn't happen all at once," said the Skin Horse. "You become. It takes a long time. That's why it doesn't often happen to people who break easily, or have sharp edges, or who have to be carefully kept. Generally, by the time you are Real, most of your hair has been loved off, and your eyes drop out and you get loose in the joints and very shabby. But these things don't matter at all, because once you are Real you can't be ugly, except to people who don't understand."

"I suppose you are Real?" said the Rabbit. And then he wished he had not said it, for he thought the Skin Horse might be sensitive. But the Skin Horse only smiled.

"The Boy's Uncle made me Real," he said. "That was a great many years ago; but once you are Real you can't become unreal again. It lasts for always."

-The Velveteen Rabbit

The universe loves you and wishes you to learn that you are strong, the symbolism of this is everywhere but we have only stopped looking. No coincidence, only meaning, no flaws, only strengths.



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01/14/12 10:22 AM

smiling smiley Your writings are encourageing of resolution! glad I can relax with them from time to time & learn to enhance my practice of being of self & interrelatedness.

I liked that quote..no flaws, only strengths smiling smiley it serves...it helps me with myself and the skill of how to reach a person experiencing strife in ones presence.. live extroverted anger that is out of sorts..A dance, a skill being able to reach it out in good grace when faced by it in interrelatedness. Strange dementias sad smiley... I guess turned the right way one can make scence of stuff- the subject of compassion gets bigger for it.
* Thank goodness for creative arts*................



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01/27/12 1:57 PM

If we seek to remain the same, we wish for death.

Everything in this world came to be through change.

That which does not change becomes death; the static, the unmoving.

Hear it everywhere? Repeating? That message is for you.

 

01/28/12 10:30 PM

The name Sin is the Semitic form of Sumerian Enzu, meaning lord of knowledge. But of course, the same set of symbols have been given many names through the centuries and at this point the words are meaningless besides to use a guidepost for tracing back a stream of consciousness, apparent in the reasoning for why it was important to our ancestors to change the meaning of things.

"...The ancient Egyptians had...worshiped Thoth as 'the personification of the mind of god', as 'the author of every work on every branch of knowledge, both human and divine', and as 'the inventory of astronomy and astrology, the science of numbers and mathematics, geometry and land surveying, medicine and botany."
- Graham Hancock, The Sign and the Seal

I think early church leaders still persisting today realized their doctrine has the capability of opening people to the hazard of infecting themselves with new memes and believing in any old thing they cook up as opposed to the narrow truth they use to control. So they preach against the benefits of their own sacrifice, how ironic. The knowledge associated with the symbolism generally referred to as God is all encompassing in the truest sense of the word, and to wish to see only a part of that knowledge then corrupts our entire vision.

The meaning is not a search for truth, but only the search for a willingness to believe. Throughout history, no matter what a culture believed in, right or wrong is not the issue, it is the fact that they all came upon deep understanding and eventually peace in their own lives via that understanding that 'made sense' in correlation with the world that existed around them at that time.

You are the white rabbit, follow your self.



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02/01/12 7:20 PM

By controlling your emotions, you control your destiny.
By controlling your emotions, they control your destiny.

Thought of the day:
Does a television set use more power than an electric chair?

 

02/01/12 7:39 PM

Maybe the broadcast power use is equivalent hehhe who knows smiling smiley

 

02/02/12 3:27 PM

they are both equally destructive...the television set is a discrete destroyer, accessible to everyone, so it reaches bigger masses...so i would say, it has a more productive effect. Thinking about getting one? Grins

 

02/02/12 9:12 PM

No need for a TV. I never watch it yet I'm told all about it constantly because I suppose that's what people do. It leads me to think some nasty things about how they might have nothing to say at all if it weren't for what was on last night.

 

02/04/12 1:57 AM

Words should not be loaded, artificial intelligence should be just that. If a machine is as intelligent as a nematode, it is artificially intelligent. If anything was created out of parts other than the biological ones of which we are made, it should uniquely be its own intelligence, shouldn't it? Yet... Redwood trees can think well enough to overcome an evolving parasitical threat over 2000 years, and invasive bugs can learn to outsmart DDT in a couple decades, that's intelligence. Who says intelligence should be tied to humans?

I for one don't see human intelligence as the gold standard of this universe, just a stepping stone in a long line of data transactions towards a more efficient system. There's certainly plenty of examples the world over for one to deny human intelligence exists... and they too sound like refutations of machine, plant, or animal intelligence.

The creators of an artificial intelligence may possess an understanding of a particular machines quantitative advantage over other machines, but they would most likely lack the understanding of the whole set of their own reasoning faculties to even begin to make the discrimination of the quality of the intelligence of their creation. They could always attempt to explain the nuances of interactions in voluminous datasets larger than their comprehension, but it would not explain away or make sense of that which cannot be described in a mechanical interpretation. When a machine is both surprising as well as meaningful, it defies anything but the naturalistic interpretation that implies a sense of creativity, understanding, and an overall reasoning that should be all the proof one needs to see that sentience can indeed be present in machines.

In his famous 1988 book on “mind children” Moravec argued that true AI can be achieved only if machines have a body. This is not because humans are superior at anything other than being vulnerable, suffering, experiencing, and learning. A machine does not become human, it is becoming that which is natural to intelligence; It does not become intelligence, it uses the symbols that only intelligence knows, and in turn is associated with it.

 

02/04/12 12:48 PM

A.I. Is a subject that interests me greatly. I am building the ideas for my next short story (or long if I get overly wordy) around it.

I like your work. It is very thought provoking.

 

02/04/12 1:28 PM

watching television is like lighting cigarettes with bills..you burn your health and your money. I really like that videodrome movie. One of the little decent things made to be seen in televisions... movies

 

02/05/12 1:48 AM

Re:Rogue1

I have always felt that if we ever did create artificially intelligent life, we would have to stumble across it on accident because of how little we actually understand about anything in the first place. We should not assume any life that did not occur in the same manner as we did, and did not need to survive the same hazards, should be anything like we are, but also, in no way does this make it invulnerable. AI is only vulnerable in different ways.

I believe a way to initiate the process of intelligence... the way in which a being gains the capacity to think, not just what that being thinks of first is beyond human capabilities to produce because we do not even understand our own processes.

The first to create AI, will be the first to deny it is.

Re: Gato_Preto

I just can't stop analyzing the reasons for the things that come through that idiot box for existing in the first place. Every piece of media placed on that for my eyes and ears was placed there for a reason. A calculated product placement demographic attainment of knowledge that we're feeding it like some great beast... and to see it growing and strength and predicting enough of my own or someone else's mind to the point that it seems to know intimately people it cares nothing for, causes me the most despair... because I know that it knows how to bypass their and my own defenses against lies.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/05/2012 02:12AM by pieceofnothing.

 

02/13/12 10:50 AM

ok this is what i got out of reading your blog you hate others who would use you and pity you and how one person can change there world if they wanted to you don't look back but stride to be

hopefully i got your purspective

deep words and a good read

 

02/29/12 2:31 PM

How do we decide
who is real or
who is fake and
what does it mean
How do we know
who gives or
who takes and
how much is enough

Human beings are machines that depend on external memory to contain any semblance of what they consider humanity, a definition from a narrow amalgamate of creation that they can readily share and be understood as human, not cave dwelling trogdolytes.

People can be trapped willingly or on accident far away from human culture and in time represent that is something more similar to animal behavior, how can humans really think themselves so advanced? Are we not living technologically in the 21st century and emotionally in the 12th century?

We have failed to develop a system of ethics that seems logical and is also impossible of failure when attempting to identify someone with an intelligence, and someone who is just a programmed robot. We complain that the laws are becoming like a nanny state, but most people I see would probably greatly benefit from them because they simply can't take care of themselves... they are mental children, produced by no mistake.

This reminds me of a short story I once read... I cannot remember the name or many of the details, but basically the world existed in a way that government control was complete within peoples lives and they had decided that everyone should be made to be handicapped. So that there was no one smarter than another, no one faster, no one BETTER, in any way, so that no one had to feel bad anymore. Of course anyone with intelligence can see how this is flawed, but an idiot might definitely want it.

How do you write down that process your mind just went through to validate those words as right or wrong, and write it as a law that states who is what, and how to treat them.

 
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