Moderation Thread IV: A New Hope

Moderation Thread IV: A New Hope

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11/13/10 2:19 PM
slippingby member Joined: 10/21/10 Location: everywhere and nowhere Posts: 111	I like tuna.
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11/14/10 4:36 AM
YKWYA member All these moments...... Joined: 11/27/07 Posts: 1,142	dobyblue posted: Totally wrong. You are clearly a flame-baiting moderator with a chip on his shoulder that has very little grasp of the written word and you have been wrong so many times in this last post alone that I stopped counting. No. Its right. And you know it. Its clear that quite obviously you like to get your own way and talk all over everyone else. You did it in the thread and I watched you, go on and on and on.... You then took offense at what I asked because you thought I was framing it around me having some percieved preference for CD. Because you are some kind of 'Senior Programmer Whatever' AND it seems a Moderator, you thought you could come here and school everyone. Well you got caught out didnt you? dobyblue posted: You were impolite first, and ignorant, period. You use the word POLITELY (and almost spell it right several times) yet were nothing of the sort after YOU took some blatant hostility that doesn't exist from my post. You have no fucking legs to stand on. Oh, I do. The fact that you are deflecting is confirmation of that. I was polite first. But you even had to argue against that, because again, rather than read what I said, you thought I was asking you to stop because I had a preference for CD - thats why you asked how that was part of the rules. Now, lets also look at one operative word I said. I said I 'appreciate' your knowlege. Not that I asked you to stop posting. Just post in the appropriate place. You are welcome to do that. But, please, dont think you can come here, first start dominating threads and throwing accusations at other users and generally being difficult without some return. Thats it.
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11/16/10 10:31 AM
dobyblue member Joined: 05/09/08 Location: Gilead Posts: 156	YKWYA posted: Its clear that quite obviously you like to get your own way and talk all over everyone else. How do you talk over everyone else in a forum? posted: You did it in the thread and I watched you, go on and on and on.... Let’s look at several examples of how I like to get my own way and talk all over everyone else, going on and on and on shall we? posted: skinlayers posted: Swwweeeeeet! Yes Yes Yes! Now, hopefully someone will put up the money for the 5.1 mix. skinlayers Fuck yeah, and let's hope it's either on DVD-A, Blu-ray or SACD. It would be a shame to do a 5.1 mix and only deliver it on DVD-Video with lossy 448 Kbps Dolby. Hope they might add a Blu-ray SKU like they did with The Social Network OST. SSquirrel posted: Also, unlike a lot of remasters, I think Trent will manage to keep some dynamics, while not making them quite as extreme and not introducing digital clipping. The Loudness War is insane. Altho it still makes me grin to think that a few of the tracks on Alice in Chains "Dirt" have stickers at the radio station reminding people to turn the volume down X amount when they play them I hope so, but Year Zero wasn't very dynamic at all. PHM sounds awesome to me from a mastering standpoint, so I hope they don't apply ANY drc or limiting at all. The Beatles Mono boxset is the best remastering job I've seen in a while. c! posted: GREAT!!!!! I'm just a bit concerned about these remastered versions... no doubt about Trent and Tom's abilities. Just hope it's not just "louder." Amen brother. deadblue posted: hey douche! those songs you are referring to are fucking amazing! those songs ARE phm!you ungrateful douche!!! (jk with the whole douche thing) Haha, but you're bang on the money with those songs, they're all fucking fantastic. PHM is perfect. mcallister1977 posted: Please release this in Hi-rez blu-ray audio. Waiting on my Social Network Blu-ray audio, since DVD-A and SACD have become pretty much obsolete the release of PHM on Blu-ray could be a huge step in getting quality sound back into people homes, not this MP3 bullshit everywhere. I mean who doesn't have a blu-ray player. Can't wait either way love this disc You rock!!!! And with over 22 million Blu-ray players in US homes I fully agree, this is the best format for music. mjwood407 posted: Trent, if you are out there... Will there be a 5.1 remixed version like you did with The Downward Spiral? Thanks! Please, please, please! It is encouraging to see so many people looking for this. posted: You then took offense at what I asked because you thought I was framing it around me having some percieved preference for CD. I don’t care what your personal preference is. You misunderstood the word “you” as talking about you, Gareth. “You” meant one; anyone; people in general: example - a tiny animal you can't even see. CD is the #1 physical media, you said it yourself, most people have only heard PHM on CD. That is what I was referring to, just because CD is #1 doesn’t mean people aren’t interested to know more about surround, Blu-ray, SACD, or any other related topic as it pertains to PHM, which is why I was asking why it’s not on topic in the current thread when so many people were partaking in the discussion intelligently until Onslaught started with his “fuck you people” line; the conversation, or at least the ones he was a part of, went downhill from there. I didn’t take offense with your posts until you said “I couldn’t give a fuck what you think I should do”. That is the simple fact of the matter. posted: you thought you could come here and school everyone. Well you got caught out didnt you? Schooled? Caught out? Huh? All the posts that are relevant are in my previous post. You talk about deflection, yet you ignored just about everything in that post except for the last two paragraphs. You were wrong in your handling of the situation, several other posters have commented as much privately to me. But moreso enough is enough, and as neither of us are going to change our stance on the situation apparently there isn't anything left to be said. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/16/2010 02:54PM by dobyblue.
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11/16/10 5:52 PM
PeedroPaula member Why so serious? Joined: 09/07/08 Location: San Pedro CA Posts: 15,226	dobyblue posted: as neither of us are going to change our stance on the situation apparently there isn't anything left to be said So go away already.
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11/16/10 9:05 PM
trevoreriksmoen member Joined: 04/12/08 Location: kingdom of fear Posts: 754	slippingby posted: I like tuna. Me too! it's a great source of omega 3's, protien, healthy fats and it's yummy yummy!
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11/17/10 6:10 AM
Sheepdean member Thug aim Joined: 11/27/07 Location: London Posts: 2,144	trevoreriksmoen posted: slippingby posted: I like tuna. Me too! it's a great source of omega 3's, protien, healthy fats and it's yummy yummy! ah, but it's high in mercury, and bluefin is endangered this is so on topic
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11/17/10 12:58 PM
YKWYA member All these moments...... Joined: 11/27/07 Posts: 1,142	dobyblue posted: All the posts that are relevant are in my previous post. You talk about deflection, yet you ignored just about everything in that post except for the last two paragraphs. How many times do I have to repeat myself? dobyblue posted: You were wrong in your handling of the situation, several other posters have commented as much privately to me. Several? Really? Who? Come on. Dont leave us in suspense. We might as well have it all out. I bet you must be filled with confidence that you did absolutely nothing wrong, and just so happened to fall victim to a what was it 'flame baiting moderator'? Oh, but it was all said to you in Private? dobyblue posted: But moreso enough is enough, and as neither of us are going to change our stance on the situation apparently there isn't anything left to be said. No Im not. Do the same thing again, and you will get the same response. Oh, and as for your personal email you sent me, thanks, but grow the fuck up. Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 11/17/2010 01:12PM by YKWYA.
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11/17/10 1:31 PM
dobyblue member Joined: 05/09/08 Location: Gilead Posts: 156	YKWYA posted: Oh, and as for your personal email you sent me, thanks, but grow the fuck up. Thanks for what? That was before the discussion in here started, can you not even follow simple time stamps now? How do you ever manage to ride horsies without hurting yourself? Edited 4 times, haha, someone's bonnet is a wee bit ruffled it seems? Total joker.
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11/17/10 1:43 PM
Sheepdean member Thug aim Joined: 11/27/07 Location: London Posts: 2,144	Edited 4 times is because YKWYA did multiple quotes, methinks. Just to step in, doby, you did derail the thread a lot, your posts were so massive that smaller posts and questions became invisible. And your audio comparison image was literally useless to the debate, it was 100% offtopic YKWYA, you probably got a bit over-angry, but I'm on your side here
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11/17/10 1:55 PM
YKWYA member All these moments...... Joined: 11/27/07 Posts: 1,142	dobyblue posted: YKWYA posted: Oh, and as for your personal email you sent me, thanks, but grow the fuck up. Thanks for what? That was before the discussion in here started, can you not even follow simple time stamps now? How do you ever manage to ride horsies without hurting yourself? Edited 4 times, haha, someone's bonnet is a wee bit ruffled it seems? Total joker. So now, quoting on my facebook. Whos the Total Joker? How clever of you. Wow, to go to all that trouble I must have hurt your feelings. And all because I asked you to take your posts elswhere after you started throwing bullshit etc etc at other users. Someone stands up to you and you throw a hissy fit. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/17/2010 01:56PM by YKWYA.
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11/17/10 1:57 PM
dobyblue member Joined: 05/09/08 Location: Gilead Posts: 156	I did 11 quotes in my last post, with one edit. And I appreciate your insight, but if you look at the last post on the previous page I'm not sure how the thread was derailed when so many posts were specifically on the topics of 5.1, or Blu-ray, or the loudness wars, or mastering, etc., etc. As for the DSD image, it was not 100% off topic if it was in reponse to another poster's comment, how could it be? That posted took my comment about the best way to capture analog (high-rez PCM or DSD) and responded sarcastically that I was trying to suggest they stay away from CD altogether. I was simply trying to illustrate exactly what I was talking about, not sure how it was useless in that context. I try to not post whore and put all my quotes in one post, that's usually proper forum etiquette from my experience. That will make some posts longer than others. It's far easier to look for the next post by the next avatar that comes up rather than looking through 20 posts in row consecutively by the same person.
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11/17/10 2:00 PM
dobyblue member Joined: 05/09/08 Location: Gilead Posts: 156	YKWYA posted: Someone stands up to you and you throw a hissy fit. You didn't stand up to me at all, get over yourself.
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11/17/10 2:04 PM
YKWYA member All these moments...... Joined: 11/27/07 Posts: 1,142	dobyblue posted: YKWYA posted: Someone stands up to you and you throw a hissy fit. You didn't stand up to me at all, get over yourself. OK? Shall I rephrase? I suspect, considering your posts towards other users in the thread that you have an attitude problem. You proved it by arguing the same way with me, and now resorting to sending me emails and commenting on my facebook. And you are married with kids? EDIT: I think, If another Moderator wasnt willing to argue with you, you would just expect to walk all over them too. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/17/2010 02:05PM by YKWYA.
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11/17/10 2:12 PM
dobyblue member Joined: 05/09/08 Location: Gilead Posts: 156	YKWYA posted: I think, If another Moderator wasnt willing to argue with you, you would just expect to walk all over them too. Yes just like the way I tried to walk all over leo3375 on page 4 right? Epic fail. The first post I made in here was quite open and polite, and he responded in one way, you responded in another. Look at my first post on page 4, then compare your first post and Leo's first post. If you can't see the GIANT difference between the two...
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11/17/10 2:20 PM
YKWYA member All these moments...... Joined: 11/27/07 Posts: 1,142	dobyblue posted: YKWYA posted: I think, If another Moderator wasnt willing to argue with you, you would just expect to walk all over them too. Yes just like the way I tried to walk all over leo3375 on page 4 right? Epic fail. The first post I made in here was quite open and polite, and he responded in one way, you responded in another. Look at my first post on page 4, then compare your first post and Leo's first post. If you can't see the GIANT difference between the two... You didnt read into leo's post that she had some preference for CD. And, if their wasnt the entire thread of you being argumentative with everyone else then it might make a difference. And, then call your own posts Extraneous. Furthermore, why then go to the trouble of sending me email and finding my facebook if you didnt have an attitude problem? I never told you to stop posting and said I appreciate you have some knowlege - regardless of whether anyone else agrees with you. You knew what you are doing, because you are a Moderator.
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11/17/10 2:58 PM
dobyblue member Joined: 05/09/08 Location: Gilead Posts: 156	YKWYA posted: You didnt read into leo's post that she had some preference for CD. Who cares what her format preference is? That's totally irrelevant. She posted a response one way, and you posted a response another way. She acted like a moderator, you acted like an immature idiot. If her post had been the only one, my response would have been the single response I posted back. When you look at my initial post on page 4 of this moderation thread to you and Leo and can't see a difference between the way she responded and the way you responded then you’re just playing the ass. Attitude problems? I responded to your post in the manner you chose to start talking to me, so get your facts straight This was my first post in the moderation thread. dobyblue posted: leo3375 posted: What part of "Keep the thread on-topic" is so hard to understand? If a thread is about high-quality photo prints for sale, don't post about JMJ's hair or speculate on what Trent's working on in that thread. There are plenty of other threads for those kinds of discussions. Agreed, so explain how discussing the Deluxe Reissue of PHM you'd like to see is irrelevant and/or off topic in a thread specifically about the reissue of PHM?! YKWYA posted: dobyblue posted: YKWYA posted: Now you have two choices, wether accept my polite post or we can continue this argument in the moderation thread. Please provide a link, I would gladly continue this debate as I would with anything I am passionate about. Let me get this right. You can navigate your way through the complexities and minutae of audio technology yet you cant 1. Read the forum homepage to find Audio Gear or Music forum to continue that debate or 2 . Use the search function to find the relevant threads. Including the moderation thread to talk about anything i have said. Hint. Its in nin.com discussion. This is about PHM, which because it is a music release is 100% relevant to the discussion at hand. Back-read through the thread and see how many different members have already stated their preference for a real DE of this resissue and are talking about the mastering of the original, the lack of 5.1 mix whether on SACD, DVD-A or Blu-ray, speculating on future DE's, etc., etc. What, each separate sub-text should suddenly have it's own thread? It's all relevant. The few comments that are off topic and not specific are replies to other members comments. I am not about to start a thread about music on SD card because I have no interest in that, but I will reply to state why I have no interest. I love NIN, I love high resolution surround, PHM is in my top 5 albums of ALL TIME. To me it's perfectly relevant to discuss a potential Blu-ray Deluxe Edition and what it would contain in a thread about the 2010 reissue and I don't think the off topic rule applies here. If the other comments are off topic then I don't see why the specific "stop posting" comments are being directed to me, as I am simply replying, not posting, to said comments. This moderation thread, it's a great idea. Kudos. Hmm, WOW, I’m really going all out to challenge your authority with an aggressive confrontational attitude aren’t I? No, not at all! I didn’t even quote your “I couldn’t give a fuck” line that you’d already unleashed, in fact despite the manner in which you were talking to me about not being able to search or some other condescending commentary I still maintained an open and civil debate as to why you felt the posts were not on topic. Now you respond with: YKWYA posted: So then. Here you are. Here to teach us all the error of our ways. Well, you are not the first person to run into trouble with the big bad moderators. Speak to you so badly. Jesus. I mean you would think they would ask politely first befor being complete assholes? <snip> Obviously you are having a hard time grapsing that you were asked politely, but instead decided to make a fucking deal out of it. And just to remind ourselves of your initial response in the PHM thread: posted: If I wanted to merge your posts I would have done so. I dont need your permission. I couldnt give a fuck quite frankly what you think in regards to what I should do. So then I did start to respond to you in a similar manner that you were talking to me, accusing you of having a chip on your shoulder. Attitude problems? Look in the mirror pal. There is a right way to moderate and a wrong way and you are a shining example of the WRONG way. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/17/2010 03:13PM by dobyblue.
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11/17/10 5:07 PM
marodi The Duchess of Otterland Joined: 12/02/07 Location: Quebec Canada Posts: 2,234	So let me get this straight: dobyblue was butt hurt about being told to get all of his audio fanboy discussion to the right thread by YKWYA and by Leo. I would have done the exact same thing had I seen the posts first because it wasn't the right place to discuss this (that place now exist, thanks to Botley). The extent of dobyblue's butt hurt is such that he is now following YKWYA on other sites and has even emailed him. Stalker much? So I'm really wondering who has the attitude problem here? ps: writing remarks about how many times someone has edited their post is childish. Grow up! pss: I edited mine 7 times, just for you. Edited 7 time(s). Last edit at 11/17/2010 05:12PM by marodi.
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11/17/10 6:09 PM
dobyblue member Joined: 05/09/08 Location: Gilead Posts: 156	marodi posted: So let me get this straight: dobyblue was butt hurt about being told to get all of his audio fanboy discussion to the right thread by YKWYA and by Leo. Ah, unfortunately the posts here aren't required by law to be written in both English and French, which is why you're having trouble getting it straight! [joke] dobyblue was butt hurt (and you're telling me to grow up, hahahaha, butt hurt!) because of the arrogant, rude and childish manner in which moderator YKWYA handled the situation, by the way he took posts out of context in order to paint a picture of trolling and member abuse that simply didn't hold up to scrutiny when the posts were put back into context and had the audicity to claim that you can't take posts out of context when they're on topic, which is simply baffling when they're being used as it pertains to member behaviour towards other members and not as it pertains to the topic at hand! dobyblue was not "butt hurt" at all by the way Leo handled the situation which a simple scan through the few posts on page 4 of this thread would have shown. Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 11/17/2010 07:43PM by dobyblue.
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11/17/10 8:12 PM
Sheepdean member Thug aim Joined: 11/27/07 Location: London Posts: 2,144	butthurt is an appropriate euphemism for the context. Also, I don't mean to correct the mods, but shouldn't this be on the shitlist? This isn't moderation gone wrong, this is name throwing now
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11/17/10 8:28 PM
marodi The Duchess of Otterland Joined: 12/02/07 Location: Quebec Canada Posts: 2,234	Sheepdean posted: butthurt is an appropriate euphemism for the context. Also, I don't mean to correct the mods, but shouldn't this be on the shitlist? This isn't moderation gone wrong, this is name throwing now Don't tempt me. Hasn't dobyblue been shitlisted already? Why yes, he was. One has to wonder why...
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11/18/10 8:31 AM
darren_mills member Joined: 11/27/07 Location: San Diego%2C California b Posts: 37	...because these forums are both populated and moderated by the hugest douche-bags on the face of this planet?
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11/18/10 8:42 AM
Sheepdean member Thug aim Joined: 11/27/07 Location: London Posts: 2,144	darren_mills posted: ...because these forums are both populated and moderated by the hugest douche-bags on the face of this planet? Look at your profile picture. Seriously, you're calling other people douchebags?
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11/18/10 9:37 AM
darren_mills member Joined: 11/27/07 Location: San Diego%2C California b Posts: 37	Perhaps you'd like to spell out the correlation...
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11/18/10 1:21 PM
OMS member Loving Life (like a boss) Joined: 05/04/08 Location: the abstract Posts: 9,128	This thread smells of tuna and trolls.
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11/18/10 4:56 PM
richard.athey member This is your back on Ti Joined: 08/28/08 Posts: 48	I have a migraine from all of this. Thank God for Dilaudid and darkness.
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11/20/10 5:19 AM
Twilight_Explosion member And I believe in BLAMMO Joined: 12/02/07 Posts: 107	darren_mills posted: ...because these forums are both populated and moderated by the hugest douche-bags on the face of this planet? who are you again?
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11/20/10 1:04 PM
PeedroPaula member Why so serious? Joined: 09/07/08 Location: San Pedro CA Posts: 15,226	darren_mills posted: ...because these forums are both populated and moderated by the hugest douche-bags on the face of this planet? And here you are!
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11/25/10 9:03 PM
juniperus member Swallowed up in fire. Joined: 03/20/09 Location: inside the kiln Posts: 1,057	OMS posted: This thread smells of tuna and trolls. LMAO. I love the smell of nin.com in the morning.
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11/26/10 12:52 AM
PeedroPaula member Why so serious? Joined: 09/07/08 Location: San Pedro CA Posts: 15,226	ROFL. It smells like stale incense, old sweat and lies, lies, lies.
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11/26/10 7:59 AM
RhettButler member Shipwrecked and Comatose Joined: 06/01/09 Location: Cardassia Prime Posts: 15,614	On another note: Happy Thanksgiving to the mods. I think on this site there is a perfect balance between letting posters do their thing, and keeping the forums high in quality. So thanks.
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