Equally:

'ITS NOT NIN!111 TRANT HAS BETWAYED US!! I WIKE NIN!!FTW BUT DIS IS BTRWAYAL AND I CAN NEVER FORGIVES TRANT!!!' 'I HAS BURNT MA NIN CDS!!"£$£"!'

Meanwhile...

YKWYA posted:

Posts are 'hidden', not 'deleted' if they cross the line of reasonable criticism of the music... If they are hidden, we can compile them if a person repeatedly makes those comments.

My own experience with moderation here is pretty limited, and I brushed it off as a case of "mod didn't get the joke"; no big deal. Considering that the explanations of what gets "hidden" are brought on by encounters with the sorts who type manifestoes in mountaintop sheds, though, is "WE'RE BUILDING A CASE AGAINST YOUUUUU..." really the tone you want to go for?

Or perhaps you made a comment that was rather creepy, TMI, or inappropriate with the tone of a thread.

So, is it possible to be allowed to talk about Y. Ono in the Beatles thread? Or is it just really bad timing that I'm listening to her now? I understand if thats some sort of way to keep people in line or whatever, but is it possible to let us use her name in non-HTDA threads?



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Really? I thought OMS was joking about the Ono ban! I mean, I think the comparisons are absurd and I always appreciated Y anyway if only because she made John happy (just like the situation with Q here in our dysfunctional little family).

MUTANT MEDIATION

There is the old adage: Opinions are like assholes and everybody has one. This is to true.
When you create something and release it into the public, there are going to be opinions. Critique and criticism when given with respect and constructively are necessary. Without this we would not strive to create anything better than before, or even to become better people. When flattery is all there is, it begins to sound not only insincere but also contrived. If you let one side dominate another, there is discord and resentment. There must be balance in all things.
Now then, let us all Rock On, without rolling over the little guys in the process.

Rubeninphoenix posted:

I've always wondered, why is "e-litist" banned?

It was a way to keep the old "ETS vs. Spiral" feud from spilling over to here.

^^^ Since Patrick Henry's unfortunate demise 211 years ago, The Patriot Act has been passed. Wait, what liberty?

There is a fine line between constructive critisism and insult. It is not just the Moderators that need to learn it. The fans could certainly use some lessons as well.

I like the new band, but yes, I think there's too much censorship on the HTDA thread. It seems that negative comments aren't allowed. Some threads are locked only because they are negative. I agree though that insults and vile attacks should not be tolerated.

Thank you Rogue1, very well said. Yes, there is sometimes a fine line between criticism and insults and although the HTDA forum is new, the practice of removing insulting posts is not new here, and we will continue to do so. We will err on the side of removal, if the post is in question.

Regarding "negative" threads: your thread would be received in a better light if you title it in such a manner in which everyone can participate. And we don't need threads for just those that are "disappointed" - if we already have a thread for reviews of the EP, why do you feel that you need your own special thread? Again, this is not a new concept; I have closed threads that were negative and/or redundant in the other forums.

Here is an example: if you want to proclaim your dislike for the name of the band, I suggest you start a thread named "HTDA - band name discussion" so that everyone can voice their opinion, whether for or against. A title like this also helps the thread stay on topic. Otherwise, your comment is better placed in the "random comments" thread.

"If you need therapy - Please, visit a therapist. If you would like a clinical psychiatrist or psychologist (shrink) to listen to you - Please hire one." -Richard (*edited one time)

Not a toilet nor a sink, would make you a shower. Just call it as eye saw it..

"The ban can't be specified by subforum - it's all or nothing. If you use "Y. Ono" in The Beatles thread, everyone would know who you are talking about. Although I may ban that also, if it continues to be used in the HTDA subforum.
The ban on the word probably won't last forever, but I am trying to prevent posts from being removed and I hope it will cause people to think before they go down that path. However well-intentioned the mention of the name it may be, others latch-on to it and then the threads go south, and we don't want to close the threads either." -SwimFin

SF is right as always. Without being seen by the public, the right to criticize respect-fully and construct-fully is a personal choice, which some may forgo in lieu of self judgement. That impulse to create better while ignoring flattery may also give rise to little things, or great things, who knows. Being put into place by an authority, whether warranted or not, speaks little on personal attack and much more on the greater good, in regards to the quality of censorship. Whether I agree or disagree with SF really doesn't matter. What SF represents is greater than the sum of SF, with respect to Dick, and Richard, we are all in therapy.

reason of last edit: unnecessary posts.



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Nope.


i saw orange, vitamin, discipline, and squeeze in the same sentence and said fuck it.

reason of last edit: unnecessary posts.



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TBHA posted:

OMS posted:

posted:

(Q is asian, Ono is asian).

I thought Q was filipino...and "filipino" is ethnically diverse and comprises of indigenous, non-indigenous and tribal groups. There are a large portion of filipinos with hispanic ancestry from Spaniards and Mexicans....as well as asian and other ethnic groups. Also, the US colonized the Phillipines after the Spanish-American war. Filipinos have many genotypes. So to compare her to an asian is a very baseless assumption.

I apologize for having a life away from all this garbage and not studying Q's entire family lineage.

Regardless, the Phillipines is still an Asian nation (holy cow! just a tiny bit of reading reveals that the Phillipines is "a founding and active member of ASEAN [Association of Southeast Asian Nations])" and thusly if Q is Filipino she is still Asian just like Ms. Ono-Lennon (perhaps not "just like" as Ms. Ono-Lennon is Japanese, but close enough for this forum).

I guess we could use your "logic" though and say that even though I was born in Texas, I'm Irish because my family was once from Ireland. It just doesn't really seem to work, but if you just must WIN the disagreement...

Kindly learn how to use a search engine before trying unsuccessfully to make a person look like an idiot. Thank you though, you proved my point about simple minded types destroying the forums for others.

Oh hun, I wasn't trying to make anyone look like an idiot; that's why I did not include your name in the original quote. Why must you be so defensive...or do you enjoy trolling so much? I DO in fact know how to use a search engine AND moreover, I know the rules on ethnicity/race/heritage since I am a former Federal Government employee who trained/worked for the 2010 Census. Also, I also studied the Spanish-American War which ended the 300 year control of the Philippines from the...wait...SPANISH! Yes, Spain colonized the Philippines in the 1500's. Also, I have Filipino family and friends, and they classify themselves of Hispanic descent.

Now since only "simply minded types" can only deal with "search engines" results, I've done the work for you...

Ethnicity
Main article: Ethnic groups of the Philippines

According to the 2000 census 28.1% of Filipinos are Tagalog, 13.1% Cebuano, 9% Ilocano, 7.6% Bisaya/Binisaya, 7.5% Hiligaynon Ilonggo, 6% Bikol, 3.4% Waray, and 25.3% are classified as other.[4][119] These general headings can be broken down further to yield more distinct non-tribal groups like the Moro, the Kapampangan, the Pangasinense, the Ibanag, and the Ivatan.[120] There are also indigenous peoples like the Igorot, the Lumad, the Mangyan, the Bajau, and the tribes of Palawan.[121] Negritos, such as the Aeta and the Ati, are considered among the earliest inhabitants of the islands.[122]

Filipinos generally belong to several Asian ethnic groups classified linguistically as part of the Austronesian or Malayo-Polynesian speaking people.[121] It's believed that thousands of years ago Taiwanese aborigines migrated to the Philippines from Taiwan, bringing with them knowledge of agriculture and ocean-sailing, and displacing the earlier Negrito groups of the islands.[123]

Eventually Chinese, Spanish, and American arrivals intermarried with the various indigenous ethnic groups that had evolved.[123] Their descendants are known as mestizos.[124] Chinese Filipinos number about two million.[125] Other migrant ethnic groups who have settled in the country from elsewhere include Arabs, Britons, other Europeans, Indonesians, Japanese, Koreans, and South Asians.

Also...

Before the arrival of the Spaniards in the Philippines, the inhabitants of the islands had little contact with mainland Asia. Trade with China and Indochina was limited to a few islands. Cultural interaction was almost non-existent. It was only Mindanao Island which had an active political, economic and cultural relationship with Borneo. Islam was introduced in the south Philippines through this connection.

Many Filipinos are unsure about their identity. They believe they are Asians but many of them feel closer to the West, especially the United States. They seem to be prouder of their Western upbringing than their Asian personality.

The Philippines are a part of Asia geographically. However, culturally and racially, they are more akin to Pacific Islanders. A large portion of Philippine indigenous culture is related to the Micronesians and Polynesians - and the vast majority of Filipinos look exactly like Micronesians you can't tell the difference.

So see, there might be, just MIGHT BE, a slim possibility that she is NOT asian. Please learn the difference between citizenship, nationality, ethnicity and race...you might not come off so ignorant.


NOW, I originally came here to just say Hi to everyone...but I didn't realized I had been called and "idiot" and "simple minded" months ago. (I too have a life from this garbage, so sorry for the late response...and you don't have to study ones lineage but it just wrong to use stereotypes when you don't.)

ps...you might want to learn how to spell Philippines correctly.



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