forkintheeye, thanks for the update ...

xcore posted:

nympholept posted:

In the image gallery, you only have one vote per image, but you can change that vote at any time.

Appreciated also for the question voting.

That IS the question voting.

So when will the questions be available for voting?

^^You are so bad. Come to the corner with me and Dave. We're having a party.

Scott: the questions will be available SOON.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/15/2009 11:59PM by maryelle.

^^Oh no, that's totally in there. What, doesn't everyone want to know why some random show got canceled?

And, the other 19 questions are all various forms of asking Trent when he's gonna make babies.

I WOULD NEVER LIE ABOUT SOMETHING SO IMPORTANT.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/16/2009 10:45AM by maryelle.

^^I don't know which was yours (names were stripped) but there were many questions about Still and there is at least one (combined from several entries) in the list that will be voted on to decide the 10 that will be given to Trent to answer.

^^Ah but you don't know which one. It's like saying "there is a question about stuff" in there.

I know nothing! You'll never get me to talk, and I used to get fillings done without Novocaine so your little torture chamber won't work on me, bub.

**runs away**

Re: Darian Lake......[www.bizjournals.com]

P.S. but don't quote me.

Houghy posted:

constructive feedback for future reference

I'm glad you did this, I was thinking same thing.

Houghy posted:

After going through the poll site Nympholept graciously created providing the original 500++ questions, I've got one simple question: Why wasn't this done via the poll site to begin with?

Good question.

Houghy posted:

Providing all 500++ questions in this format was much more effective then the way it all went down. Reason: would've given everyone an opp to vote on all 500++ questions.
This would've helped the committee filter down the list based on popularity of the masses

Exactly.

Houghy posted:

By using the poll site, the committee could've not only honed the list down in a fair way, but also provide links that would answer some of the questions all in one place.

Yup.

There are definitely some constructive things to be learned from this experience. Here are my thoughts:

* What was the hurry? Did Reznor give us a deadline? Did we assume that we had to have these to him before the tour started, while the band is busy rehearsing (rather than while the band is between gigs, sitting around bored)?

* Next time, ONE question per person, and each question should be one sentence in length. No multi-part questions, paragraph questions, 6 questions within 1 question, etc.

* Next time, establish an objective up front, before the question period begins, e.g. questions that are to be avoided, overall "vibe" that we expect to achieve (professional, personal, funny, combo), etc.

* Next time, establish rules up front for your elected committee, e.g. are they allowed to change the wording of the questions? (The committee actually had to argue this out, there were many disagreements about this and the scope of our duties.) When the committee hits an impasse, do they submit the issue to the fan base for a vote?

* One or two threads, PLEASE. There were so many threads discussing the same thing, I was lost in here.


Ultimately, this thing was like the blind leading the naked.

If we (the committee) post our own individual list of choices (which we can do if demand here is high enough), you will see that our choices weren't really all that similar. Out of my 30 choices, I think only 2 of them were matched by a lot of other members of the committee. Some of us came at this from different "angles" as to what we thought would be interesting to the fan base.


577 fucking questions, 11 committee members ... come on, do the math. I took one look at the list and I thought to myself, "you have GOT to be fucking kidding me. We can't do this. This is fucking insane."

(It didn't help that -- in our hurried state -- we somehow ended up using Google groups which REALLY FUCKING SUCKS.)

Marodi graciously copy and pasted the questions into Word, made an attempt to "categorize' them, and then bulleted them. I reformatted the questions, converting bullets to numbers in each section.

I reduced the margins to .25, and the type size to 11 point, and printed it out ... FORTY FUCKING PAGES of questions.

Having been given no criteria, no objectives, no rules, I did what I thought NIN fans would WANT me to do: I crossed off all the questions that could be easily answered via a Google search, questions that were answered via the old NIN.com Access section, questions that would be difficult for Reznor to answer without giving away too much (he tends to give us information on a need-to-know basis, and future -- be it immediate or distant -- career plans are probably tentative at best at this point in time, given the alleged "hiatus" and the climate of the music industry).

Again, having been given no rules up front, it was hard to think like you guys think, but I tried my best. I thought I was given a "job" to do, which was to represent the NIN fan base -- not my own personal interests -- and I took it seriously.

If I failed you, I'm sorry. But, I did my best.

(p.s. I think the other members of the committee did their best, too, there was a lot of time invested in this and people took it seriously and tried to do a good job. Marodi, it's a wonder she didn't go BLIND compiling those questions. And Guilty helped a lot, too, with her graphics.)



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Just FYI, most of us on the committee (that had time) posted the same information both here and in the ETS thread during the question selection process. Just for transparency's sake.

JessicaSarahS posted:

Just FYI, most of us on the committee (that had time) posted the same information both here and in the ETS thread during the question selection process. Just for transparency's sake.

I know. But still, there are some of things that were never posted here and I believe everyone should have the option to read it if they want. And they certainly have the right to know it existed.

In the interest of transparency, here are my nipples:

[groups.google.com]

Leviathant posted:

In the interest of transparency, here are my nipples:

[groups.google.com]

Thanks for posting this link. I was not aware of it.

eatyourblud posted:

Umm,i dont object to it being linked one bit, and never have...

Me thinks you need a new tin foil hat

Is there a reason why the committee could not conduct all of their discussion related to the project solely on nin.com?

Why so defensive and why the snide remarks? You are coming across with a lot of hostility.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/18/2009 05:59PM by OMS.

Jessica, the link was already posted...without the screaming and cursing.

Please, I would like everyone to remain calm, mature and keep from name calling and such. The forum doesn't need it.

But thank you for posting the link again.