ishtmail posted:

We didn't buy presale, we bought the tickets via Eventim. But I don't reckon' it's any different, eh?

But there has to be some difference, right? I don't know exactly what it's all about either, entering hour or something...? If not, then what's the point of presales?

now we're getting seriously close to the 24th.

One fresh new driver coming up! Yes, I passed, and yes, I'm driving to Budapest!

The plan now depends on my brother-in-law's plans for the car.

Version 1: If he's in Ljubljana, I suggest we meet with Perchee somewhere in Ljubljana early friday morning, pick up the 3 people in Ljubljana and drive both cars to Zagreb, pick up the rest of you somewhere, and scrap to Budapest.

Version 2: I start from Ljubljana with 5 people (me, my wife and all 3 additional Ljubljana people). Perchee starts from Celje and heads straight for Zagreb (a shorter ride for Perchee than going to Ljubljana first). I drive to Zagreb, where we meet and rearrange the people so that there are 4 in each car. Then head to Budapest.

Version 3: my brother-in-law can also be in Dolenjska on Thursday evening/friday morning... This means a slight complication - Novo mesto is just between Ljubljana and Zagreb, and it would be pointless of me driving to Ljubljana (70km) and then back to Dolenjska and over to Zagreb... In this case, I'd be more keen on Perchee picking up all 3 passengers in Ljubljana and meeting with me and my wife near Novo mesto, after which we head over to Zagreb and then to Budapest.

Exact details will be discussed on-the-fly, next week. I still need to get my licence made (which now takes a few days), and have to get that young driver insurance...

no, not dreams YET!!

but!! I'm really excited. When I'm watching a video on youtube I go all

OMGJESUSFUCKINGCHRIST!!! hHEHOLWrpéwjr I'M GONNA SEE THIS IN 3!!-Fucking-D!!!!

it's mandatory to say a big "HI" if you all see me. I'll tell my "details" later

Don't worry Nyx, I'll have a couple stout drinks before starting, to get that courage up, keep hands from shaking and whatnot

Today I settled the insurance thing, so I only need to receive the card licence, which should arrive to my address sometime mid next week (I filed for an 'urgent' case, they said it takes 3 days to make the licence that way).

Perchee: hope your car holds... Either case, I'm taking 2 people with me and Caramell and we're definitely driving. I also managed to borrow a Garmin from my boss, so we'll have no trouble finding anything anywhere!

Giggedy giggedy!

Well, hey:
1. car expenses, split to 4 people = cheaper than train tickets.
2. train ride 9 hours versus car ride 5 hours = no brainer
3. the train leaves from Ljubljana at 2 in the morning (no thanks), while the second train, which leaves at 9 in the morning, arrives at almost 6 in the afternoon, which IMHO is too late for a NIN concert.

I really REALLY REALLY don't want to go by train.
Also, I really really REALLY REALLY want to drive

Get your car fixed, goddamn it, and stop complaining! Or maybe someone else can donate his or her car for this (all too important) mission!

Sorry to hear you're in a tight spot. I hope everything works out though, in the best possible fashion, and whatever tailspinning you're in right now levels out.

Whatever the case, and whatever you decide to do about the trip, you take care of yourself first. Nine Inch Nails are important, shit, they're right up there with the whole inventing the wheel and the fire, but your well being comes first, so if this trip would in any way mess stuff up even further, drop it (however strange that might sound).

I'm sure we'll figure something out with the getting the people up there situation if the worst thing happens. I can still also take Acerchiata (along with the other two girls from Ljubljana), and we'd have to figure something out for the Zagreb folk...

So, yesterday I also received my official drivers licence. Adding 'urgent' to my order sure made them work fast: I was there on friday morning, and it arrived on saturday morning...

My brother-in-law will have the car serviced this week and will also settle the long-distance-road-assistance thing at AMZS. Seems like everything is going well.

One slight hiccup:
The car will be in Dolenjska at the time. So, anyone that's coming to Budapest with me will have to get his or her ass to Novo mesto, either by train or by bus, early in the morning.

Here's my suggestion:
Whether or not Perchee decides to go (I sure hope you'll decide to come, dude, it'll be totally sweet to go on a road trip like this), I suggest that everyone from Ljubljana (that's acerchiata, Tinkerbell and her friend) goes to Novo mesto, where I pick them up.


VERSION 1: If Perchee goes with his car, he can go straight from Celje to Zagreb (way faster than through Ljubljana), and we meet in Zagreb somewhere to collect the Zagreb people.

There's a train at 6:33 in the morning going from Ljubljana, and arriving in Novo mesto at 8:33. Google Route tells me we can be in Zagreb in about an hour, so we can meet somewhere in Zagreb at 9:30. So, Acerchiata, Tinkerbell and her friend come by train to Novo mesto, we meet with Perchee, ana and default_me in Zagreb, and head to Budapest.


VERSION 2: If Perchee decides not to come (sniff), we're one car short. If ana or default_me or acerchiata have cars (please say so ASAP), we can still meet in Zagreb as planned and go to Budapest together with 2 cars. Ljubljana folk would still have to come to Novo mesto first. If acerchiata has a car, he can pick up Tina and her friend in Ljubljana and we meet in Novo mesto and go to Zagreb. If ana or default_me have a car, everyone from Ljubljana take the train to Novo mesto and we all meet in Zagreb.


VERSION 3: If perchee decides to go but has no car, and Acerchiata has a car, Acerchiata picks up Tinkerbell and her friend in Ljubljana, they all go to Celje to pick up Perchee. I go to Zagreb to pick up ana and default_me. Acerchiata and the gang can meet us in Zagreb or go straight to Budapest.


VERSION 4: Perchee goes, no car, acerchiata no car, someone from Zagreb has a car: Perchee would have to take a train to Zagreb (6:33 from Celje, 8:34 in Zagreb with one stopover). Acerchiata, Tinkerbell and her friend come to Novo mesto and we all meet in Zagreb.


VERSION 5: If there are no possible additional cars, there is no other way but for some people to go by train... I checked with some car rental services and it's near to impossible to rent a van on such short notice.
So, if this were the case:
There is a train from Zagreb to Budapest Keleti station at 6:40 in the morning, which arrives at 14:14 in the afternoon. You'd have to switch trains TWICE.
We would probably be in Budapest at about that same time. I think Astoria hostel is pretty close to the Keleti station.


Sorry for the (rather lengthy) post. I hope the options are clear.

Perchee, fingers crossed! And do let us know if you're coming atleast a couple days earlier (so I can contact the hostel and change the booking again, if necessary).

/bows head in shame/
My lack of paying attention - I blame the society.

I checked Google Maps and there aren't any shortcuts. The shortest route from Ljubljana (or Novo mesto for that matter) via Zagreb is about 445 kilometres (from Novo mesto).

I'm not sure it's necessary for us to start THAT early in the morning. If we start from Zagreb at 9:30, we still get to Budapest by 13:00 (or 14:00), which is enough time, I think.
On the other hand, driving early might be easier (cooler weather).
On the third hand, getting to Zagreb at 7 or 8am might prove to be a drivers' nightmare. Ljubljana at that time is living hell to drive through, and Zagreb is considerably bigger.

Opinions, people, please?

Traffic in Zagreb is living hell at that hours. Also don't forget the tourists.
For me that is not a problem, I know the roads and have experience with it.

One thing I have to ask is: Ishtmail are you sure you can drive a trip like this?
Don't get me wrong but you are a new driver and I know what that was like.

I would go by car but as I said, I can't go cause my sis will need it.
So I think a trip by train is the best option. There are no worries, no stops...

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I know, I was just asking.


One more thing
Acerchiata is coming to Zagreb Thursday night and she is gonna sleep at my place, so there are 3 people going from Zagreb.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/19/2009 02:17PM by ana.

OK, here's the situation with Astoria hostel:

it has a luggage room.
it (supposedly) has lockers in dorms (bring LOCKS!)
clean sheets - yes, ofcourse
bring a towel (although hostelbooker.com tells me towels are also free at the hostel)
there's no curfew
free wireless internet
safety deposit

So, all in all it seems like a decent place.


I'd highly recommend noone bring anything TOO valuable. After all, we'll only be in Budapest 1 night so what do you even need except some clean clothes, a toothbrush and a towel?

I'll bring my photo camera with me, ofcourse and I assume the rest of you will do the same...


So, what, you guys are now going by train 100%?

Sweet! Fuckin' win! No wonder your ass and head are upside down!

HAUS WORMING PARTEY!

Oh Perchee that looks so sweet even without furnitures!

And that's not all. But thanks.

irenne, i don't think there should be a problem. We hope to start lining up as soon as we check in hostel - in short, we hope to be at the venue at 3pm if not earlier. As for "meeting up", look for group of people talking mostly Slovenian with two tall guys standing out, one being example of a typical geek with extra saliva minus glasses and the other one will be nearly bald with something NIN-ish either on his clothes or on his head. I can't give you other exact clothes description since i don't know what we're really going to wear (lol) but... All i can say is keep your eyes and ears open. And if you talk Serbian, we will hear you and understand you :] The worst case scenario - phone numbers exchange or check one of ours Facebook profiles for "face identication" - though my current one is hardly me.

ishtmail - since you booked the beds, is it possible that we can check in without you since we'll be there a few hours before you guys arrive? I know this sounds a but weird and you're the contact guy, but still...