Actually all or most is actually simple midi. At least on the keyboard/ controller & DAW ( digital audio workstation ) end midi is simply a digital instrument protocol. Musical Instrument Digital Interface MIDI. Midi records no sound only: time ( from the press of one key to the next ), pitch ( the key your in ) velocity ( the pressure of how hard or how softly your keystroke is ) and any other automation information like sustain pedals or the pitch bend on some keyboards as well as knobs , buttons and faders on supported units. The true power is using a hardware sampler or software such as NI kontakt or Mach 5. Or use a vst, vsti, dxi, mas, au, rtas software synth plugin in you favorite DAW like pro tools, digital performer, logic, acid, cubase, sonar.. or a stand-alone such as NI pro-53, NI massive... Or full featured software synth workstations like Propellerheads Reason/ Rebirth, storm, project 5, fl studio, reactor... Or for the truly geeky MAX/MSP or Buzz. All or most of these tools are controllable via MIDI as for non synth sounds when you press a key you trigger a synth sound from the soft synth some like for instance reason has a unit called dr. Rex player it loads .rex files and are created using recycle allowing you to make trigger slices with-in a audio file. Programs such as fl studio allow for virtually any audio file format to be placed as a sound on the step- sequencer. Midi is wonderful and it spans further than it's musical base midi cc ( continuous controller ) is used in automated lighting systems & robotics. Midi is way more than the dinky sounds of those 80's keyboard's those were only simple chip sounds using a gm ( general midi ) midi sound bank

avid, i have a question.

lately i'm getting a buzzing noise from my instruments. i thought it was a cable at first. it's not.

i unhooked my m-audio interface ..i also have pro tools LE along with M-powered.
so, i plugged in my original Mbox and still..that buzzing noise is coming from my guitar and bass. it's a static type sound...and it stops or quietens when i put my hand on the metal end of the instrument cable where it's plugged in into the instrument.

any ideas?

ok, i heard grounding issue from someone else...but, i don't know what that means

like is my feet touching the ground? which usually no. but it's never mattered before.

AvidWave posted:

alright, so i finished recording the cover for "WISH" and for "just like you imagined [rehearsal version]". one question though. do you guys WANT vocals on the songs just to make it sound full? or do you guys just want the music to analyze it properly? i figured the analyzing part would be done in separate videos, but it's your call.

I'm voting for no vocals.

ok, i finally figured out something that fixes it. i pressed a button on my m-audio firewire solo that changes over the inputs from the 2 front ones 1. mic input 2. guitar

to the 2 rear ones

2 unbalanced line inputs

now it sounds great but it's very quiet

i think they are meant to be used together? so, is there such thing as a router type deal so that i guitar cable can hook into 2 inputs? i'm all very confused.`

LobotomyBaby posted:

ok, i finally figured out something that fixes it. i pressed a button on my m-audio firewire solo that changes over the inputs from the 2 front ones 1. mic input 2. guitar

to the 2 rear ones

2 unbalanced line inputs

now it sounds great but it's very quiet

i think they are meant to be used together? so, is there such thing as a router type deal so that i guitar cable can hook into 2 inputs? i'm all very confused.`

If you're plugging your guitar to your interface directly (1/4" unbalanced cable from the output of your instrument to the input of the interface), yes, it will sound quiet, it's a line input.

Get a DI box (direct injection box). Connect the guitar to the DI, and connect the DI to the interface (using either an XLR or XLR to 1/4" ) (don't forget to check the 48v (Phantom power)).



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c! posted:

AvidWave posted:

alright, so i finished recording the cover for "WISH" and for "just like you imagined [rehearsal version]". one question though. do you guys WANT vocals on the songs just to make it sound full? or do you guys just want the music to analyze it properly? i figured the analyzing part would be done in separate videos, but it's your call.

I think we would appreciate more if you showed/told us how you manage to get the sounds instead of showing us that you can do it.

We already know you can get the Slavery and THTF synth sounds, but it would be cool if you told us how to get there "

i'm working on it with these new videos, i'm going to hook up my smaller cameras and show the actual process, and then the end result.. i've been busy due to a BIG music theory project. Had to compose a full orchestral score :\

It depends... I think the album cut has a very fast phaser setting, with tremolo on top. Live versions just have the tremolo.

rogue_seabird posted:

Anyone know what kind of effect was used on Trent's vocals in 999,999? That amazing effect where his voice slowly comes together? Tough one.

It's not an effect. It's just a simple audio sampler slice trick.

Does anyone know if there is a software that can "emulate" the beat from that box that's on the piano on this video? Thanks for the help.

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HikaruGunner posted:

Does anyone know if there is a software that can "emulate" the beat from that box that's on the piano on this video? Thanks for the help.

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He probably made that himself from some miscellaneous samples laying around.

Seriously, Trent's been doing this for so long he probably has THOUSANDS of drum samples he could randomly pull from for something.

metalmike posted:

brickisred posted:

metalmike posted:

brickisred posted:

rogue_seabird posted:

Anyone know what kind of effect was used on Trent's vocals in 999,999? That amazing effect where his voice slowly comes together? Tough one.

It's not an effect. It's just a simple audio sampler slice trick.

care to elaborate?

Well, you take a vocal sample, load it into a sampler, slice it into smaller parts, then the smaller parts are assigned midi keys. Then, you can rearrange the slices and rapidly trigger them in succession to get that jittery glitch sound.

i see, but could it be something else? i could see how it could all be triggered, but when he says, "slip," it kinda drags out.

"h-h-h-ow did i s's's's's's's's's."

sounds like it could be a buffer effect or something like that. but that's just my 2¢.

That stretched-out S could also be a little bit of elastic audio.



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I've been trying to recreate the sound from 1000000 that I believe Trent used a Rozzbox for.
It's the higher screetchy synth that comes in around 0:54.
I'm trying to use Oddity, Ring mod, bitcrushing to recreate it and have the higher part down, but I'm having trouble with recreating how it goes to a lower pitch and undulates slower every 1/2 bar.
Anyone have any advice?

Okay, been looking for this one for quite some time.


Under the drums in MOTP, right at the very beginning, you can clearly hear some sort of percussion noise that is part of a drum machine and a synth-generated sample. It sounds like a whip hitting metal, sort of. What is this?

OnslaughtSix posted:

Some noise.

Honestly, unless we get multitracks for MOTP it's doubtful we'll--hey wait we do have those. (Well, from Rock Band, anyway.)

And the answer is! ...I still dunno, it's in the drum track. Oh well.

Yeah, that's so helpful.