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02/20/09 3:06 AM

palmer666 posted:
Okay.... Dear ninjaw.

First: I know, that there is no real 5.1 sound. A user here has studio equipment, and suggested to made one. I have uploaded the files for him. Thats the deal.

Second: What is your understanding of official sound? The RAW material from the MOV files? I don´t think, that anyone would use RAW sound for a e.g. Retail-DVD.

Third: I don´t used double compression. When you read my post correctly, you should have noticed, that i used 2-Pass CBR (Constand Bit Rate). First pass to make an analyse, the second to encode in the same bitrate like 1st pass. That is normal MEPG2 encoding....

Fourthly: Some old DVD players are not able to play DL DVDR. My thinking of it was to provide the DVD to all users with max. compatibility and maximum possible (MPEG2) quality.

Fifthly: Okay. I have tested it more times and the conclusion was artifacts in dark scenes. Wehn you know, how to prevent that, please let me know and instruct me.


I have absolutly no problem with criticism, but you should do that after you have downloaded and watched the encode. After that, you have the possibilty to impartial criticize me.

smileys with beer

1st) a bad one ... unfortunally, actually anyone can produce such false 5.1, you just have to use a dolby stereo surround (2.2) to dolby digital surround (5.1) automatic converter. my point is there is no way to produce a real usual 5.1 mix

2nd) plz what you call raw is a very reworked sound, why do you think all the cams got same sound

3rd) yes you have, you said you used : Mpeg2 -> Mpeg4 -> Mpeg2 triple conversion, and ... sure it's easier to edit, and download, but then you lost quality...

4th) anyway, that's the same thing

5th) well it's just an encoder thing, if one encoder produce bad black, change it, one of the best all time encoder is tmpgenc, asuming you use tools that allow to change encoder ... probably not hey ?

I dont care actually about dvd release actually, i'm already fully HD, but things needed to be clarified, your editing maybe good, but not your encoding, sure the result is good, but you used dirty steps, that black issues you mentioned ? maybe that totally useless mpeg4 step did it ? not mentioning the double resolution change you used 1080 -> 720 -> 360

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02/20/09 2:23 AM

Okay ninjaw..... What is your problem? Again, download my DVD, watch it and after that you can start blaming me!!!

1. I know that anyone could do a fake 5.1 surround sound. My contact not!

2. Because of the normal way of editing video footage.... I don´t think that anyone has edited the sound before uploading the 400.

3. The conversion from 1080p, to 720p is not noticeable for MPEG2! If you read some coding forums, you could read why.

4. Okay.

5. I use TMPEGEnc for years.....



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/20/2009 02:31AM by palmer666.

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02/20/09 2:42 AM

-VisceraL- posted:
hey palmer666 wud u mind if i add the torrent to my DVD here?

No problem my friend! smileys with beer

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02/20/09 4:12 AM

I admit loss should be minimal since it's SD.
But the facts are here, no real 5.1 (i said real) can even be tought without source, and you used an additional unnecesseray step for comfort.

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02/20/09 4:24 AM

btw i dont know if you plan to remake your dvds but we'll soon adapt the subtitles in 4 languages to the victoria show too.

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02/20/09 3:42 AM

You will laugh, but i was thinking about that to put your subtitles into it....

If i should do a "remake", i will add them. smileys with beer

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02/20/09 4:25 AM

Thank you! Downloading it right now, and will seed as much as possible. Thank you again!
Just an idea: it would be great if someone opened a topic for all the complete dvd-s. Because it is kind of hard to find them like this...

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02/20/09 9:07 AM

Fuck!!!

I have noticed, that i that i have an write error in the song title from "The Wretched"....

Will fix that and upload a new torrent for DVD1, sorry guys.

eye rolling smiley

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02/20/09 9:22 AM

Holy c*w ! I was around 35% !!! Too bad. Anyway, don't bother about ninjaw smiling smiley

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02/20/09 9:28 AM

Come on... I was at 50%. This really sucks. Have yo already uploaded a new torrent? I want to know when can I Start again downloading...from scratch... F*ck

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02/20/09 9:34 AM

Hi friends, you don´t need to stop download. I will release the fixed DVD1 as a new torrent, just change the priority of the files to DVD2 - high. I am so sorry!

The new torrent comes in 2 hours maximum.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/20/2009 09:35AM by palmer666.

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02/20/09 10:19 AM

So, we can stop grabbing DVD1 and wait for the fixed version ?

I'm doing so. Too bad for the mistake !

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02/20/09 10:40 AM

Just to say that more eyes are seeing better than my two ones.... smiling smiley

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02/20/09 1:04 PM

palmer666 posted:
Fuck!!!

I have noticed, that i that i have an write error in the song title from "The Wretched"....

Will fix that and upload a new torrent for DVD1, sorry guys.

eye rolling smiley

Does this mean the DVD will stop reading and come up with "error reading disc", or is there just a typo? I couldn't care less if there's a typo - and will continue to download these.

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02/20/09 1:17 PM

It´s just a typo.... Just a hang to perfectism smiling smiley

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02/20/09 2:03 PM

The fixed DVD1 ISO is in seed.... smileys with beer

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02/20/09 2:31 PM

You are doing a great job, thank you. Sorry for the earlier words... SO if I'm at 38%, it is ok to continue from here, and I will have the correct version?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/20/2009 02:32PM by andreiuc88.

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02/20/09 2:36 PM

No problem.

Finish the "old" Torrent, but set the priority to the second DVD2 iso file to high. Let the first ISO file normal priority. After the second ISO is completed, you can start the fixed torrent. Please leave torrent one in seeding mode, so all others can grab it.

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02/20/09 4:17 PM

Thanks for allowing me "market" my dvd here palmer666 hehehe!!! XD

Hey people ive finally finished the first release of Lights In The Sky Over Victoria. The link will get u to a torrent where u have the full menu DVD of the first two thirds of the concert. the other missing part is coming soon. im working on it!

[www.mininova.org]

# 999,999
# 1,000,000
# Letting You
# Discipline
# March of the Pigs
# Head Down
# The Frail
# The Wretched
# Closer
# Gave Up
# The Warning
# Vessel
# 21 Ghosts III
# 28 Ghosts IV
# 19 Ghosts III
# Piggy
# The Greater Good
# Pinion
# Wish
# Terrible Lie
# Survivalism



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02/20/09 6:53 PM

We are totally moving slow. Where are you seeders?!

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02/20/09 8:35 PM

fenderbender posted:
We are totally moving slow. Where are you seeders?!

is that with palmer or me?

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02/20/09 10:15 PM

-VisceraL- posted:
fenderbender posted:
We are totally moving slow. Where are you seeders?!

is that with palmer or me?

both.

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02/20/09 10:16 PM

I don't have a single source for first torrent sad smiley

And DVD2 is around 28% for me right now. Sigh eye rolling smiley

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02/20/09 10:51 PM

Well now that I have a working computer again, I can go torrent and seed lke I promised. Hope to get this and start seeding tomorrow. Very excited to get a Victoria multicam!

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02/20/09 11:39 PM

Will be a great news. I hope I'll get all before a week winking smiley

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02/21/09 1:09 AM

seeeeeeeeeeeeeederrs
sad smiley

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02/21/09 1:49 AM

I am sorry for the slow seeding of the DVDs, i have to seed 2 torrents (DVD1 & DVD2, fixed DVD1). That is why it is so slow. I don´t know, why my friend is not seeding in this moment. I will ask him and re-add him as second seeder. Again, sorry folks!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/21/2009 01:55AM by palmer666.

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02/21/09 2:17 AM

I had to gave up downloading the torrents. My connection is horribly unstable since this morning (something like a hang up every 3 minutes or so)...

I will wait a few days before trying again. And it annoys me a lot. I'm going to have a nervous breakdown because of this lot of hangups !

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02/21/09 2:33 AM

Very sad to hear that. In a few days you should download it with maximum speed, because of the people, who completed the download and seed it. smiling smileysmileys with beer

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02/21/09 3:59 AM

I'm sorry not being able to participate to first wave of downloading. But my connection is very very bad :/

And I'm upset with that !

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