I spoke to the lead of the “a tiny little dot” project today. He informed me that there has been a recent number of personal setbacks regarding the completion of the final show DVD. The team is apparently feeling some of the effects of the current economic atmosphere. A few key members of the team have recently lost their jobs (and thus access to their resources that they had previously volunteered) which also has caused for a delay in the completion of the project. He has assured me that the team is in the process of clearing the current hurdles that are causing delay and moving forward with the project. The team was hoping to complete the project by June, in spite of the current setbacks. When I asked him if he foresees the project still being able to get finished by the end of 2011, he reassured me that the team still has a goal to complete the project by the end of summer.

I recommended that with respect to those who have both a financial and emotional investment into the project, that “a tiny little dot” makes effort to update the NIN community about the project whenever possible as the project moves forward. He reassured me that he will plan on doing this.



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First, Thank-you ninja2009 for the update, so to speak. I am very sensitive to those that have lost their jobs recently. I lost my job of 15+ years 2 years ago. Fortunately, I was able to find work after about six months. I consider myself very fortunate. That being said... I feel that Sasan, himself, has done an EXTREMELY poor job of communicating the project status with the project faithful (investors) and the nin community as a whole. Encountering setbacks is to be expected of a project of this sheer scope, involving so many components and with a volunteer labor model. Not reaching out to this community to say "Hey we're kind of stuck now" or "We need help with ________" smacks of some serious pride issues or that we're being strung along here in some elaborate scheme. I feel that in spite of losing one's job that someone on the "team" still has access to the internet to keep us updated. Is Shreena still on the team? If so, I think it's time for some serious "Media Relations". It shouldn't take a barrage of e-mails from Ryan, ninja2009 or others to get an update every month or four for that matter. This project has been 18 months in the making with pre-orders? / deposits? / donations? (I forgot what they were) taken a year ago. So far, the project has yielded several studio stills that looked bad-ass (I love Family Guy), a 2 minute trailer (also Awesome!) and the release of "Somewhat Damaged" (an appropriate metaphor for this project if there ever was one). Sasan, let's pull it together and see if anyone else here or from TOIOU, ETS or Hotline can perhaps lend a helping hand. I'm willing to see this thing through and help in whatever capacity I can, even if it's licking envelopes. There you have it, a new volunteer!

Peace,

mixter_



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DistantStorm posted:

looks like an update of a sort has emerged on the FB page.

wish they'd do the same for the main site; i check that shit like three times a day, hoping for news of a date for new orders.

I did read their FB status page and was underwhelmed to say the least and really concerned to be honest. From their last update in January, it appeared that all final edits had been completed and that the master was being color-corrected at a mastering/rendering facility (sorry I'm an audio guy). Now it appears that this project is in peril with dates of end of summer, end of year and June being thrown about. Why not give us a detailed overview of what has been completed akin to January, what needs to be done, and what resources (studio, cash, technical expertise, sweat equity) are required to get this thing done. I get that this takes a while, be patient, etc... I think we've covered that in this thread since July/Aug 2010 when it appeared that this project began to lose some traction. Now the team of 8-10 individuals have bigger fish to fry if they need to look for jobs or have other familial obligations to attend to. I get it and don't want to come off as the @sshole here. I'm just asking do additional people need to step in to offer assistance? It's OK to ask for help. I don't even care that much about the money that I've put forth so far. Let's just be more upfront and honest about what's going on than: "Some people we relied upon understandably had to drop out, we hope to complete the project by June/ end of summer / end of year." Instead... How about: "The master is at the facility being color-corrected and the guy overseeing it got laid off and we need a _________ to get this thing back on track." Purely speculation on my part. My educated guess is that thing is going to require another infusion of cash to get this thing corrected, mastered, authored, manufactured, packaged and shipped. My further guess is that there is no more capital or volunteerism to get this to the next step. If I'm completely wrong in my assessment, please tell me where I'm wrong.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 04/05/2011 11:03PM by mixter_.

Oh, I care .. but will patiently wait for the finished product. I have faith in the NIN community esp when they are doing a project of this magnitude and even without timely updates. And for those of us who were not at the final show .. this is all we got ..

Keep the faith peeps!!

mixter_ posted:

DistantStorm posted:

looks like an update of a sort has emerged on the FB page.

wish they'd do the same for the main site; i check that shit like three times a day, hoping for news of a date for new orders.

I did read their FB status page and was underwhelmed to say the least and really concerned to be honest. From their last update in January, it appeared that all final edits had been completed and that the master was being color-corrected at a mastering/rendering facility (sorry I'm an audio guy). Now it appears that this project is in peril with dates of end of summer, end of year and June being thrown about. Why not give us a detailed overview of what has been completed akin to January, what needs to be done, and what resources (studio, cash, technical expertise, sweat equity) are required to get this thing done. I get that this takes a while, be patient, etc... I think we've covered that in this thread since July/Aug 2010 when it appeared that this project began to lose some traction. Now the team of 8-10 individuals have bigger fish to fry if they need to look for jobs or have other familial obligations to attend to. I get it and don't want to come off as the @sshole here. I'm just asking do additional people need to step in to offer assistance? It's OK to ask for help. I don't even care that much about the money that I've put forth so far. Let's just be more upfront and honest about what's going on than: "Some people we relied upon understandably had to drop out, we hope to complete the project by June/ end of summer / end of year." Instead... How about: "The master is at the facility being color-corrected and the guy overseeing it got laid off and we need a _________ to get this thing back on track." Purely speculation on my part. My educated guess is that thing is going to require another infusion of cash to get this thing corrected, mastered, authored, manufactured, packaged and shipped. My further guess is that there is no more capital or volunteerism to get this to the next step. If I'm completely wrong in my assessment, please tell me where I'm wrong.

Pretty much hit the nail on the head here, agreed on all fronts. I find myself face-palming at the state of this project's community (lack there-of) presence. It shouldn't be so hard at all to ask for help if they need it...... I don't get it at all.

Days since NIN - Wiltern show: 611
Days until conceivable End of the World: 587
[www.2012contact.com]

We're closer to the end of the world than getting this DVD/BD? made. I'd settle for a VHS copy at this point.

Now I'm growing impatient!



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nan2112 posted:

Okay.. Number 1. Bullshit on an update on facebook. Sorry FB people...I don't do Facebook. This is a NINs project and any Update should be posted on here or ATLD. I know alot of people get my meaning. I, along with many of you, paid money( who the hell remembers when?) and should have the courtesy of an update. What a difference in the professionalism of TOIOU compared to ATLD. I also stated before if they need help with burning or artwork... ASK!!! TOIOU had fans help out and it worked out fine and they got their product out!

+ 1
The people over at TOIOU were light years better communicating and...well....everything else too. They were awesome.
These people truly SUCK. They went MONTHS without even as much as going on Twitter for 2 seconds and making a post (what is really bad is that this even happened after they had put up information saying that "now is the time", "big updates in the next day or so..", things like that). This whole experience makes me want to hurl.



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I am excited to see what Rob Sheridan and co. put together from the Wiltern. You know that is in the works.

I am just disappointed in Sasan and his isolation from the NIN related boards. How the hell do you do that?! Blows my mind.

I'm tired of pissing and moaning and becoming agitated because of this crap, so I'll offer some comic relief...

BenAkenobi posted:

will Ferrari ever reach podium in this season?

They need to correct their wind-tunnel woes before that happens. Let's see if during this 3 week break they can recalibrate it. This is when i wish Raikkonen was still driving for them because this would show you what kind of driver he really was with a mediocre car and his development skill ofthe car. Example being 2009, where in the 2nd half of the season had the most points out of anyone and really had a shit car. But I think RBR and McLaren are running away with it. I am so glad that the developments (or should I say, dumbing down designs) helped them gain the necessary time on the track to not let Vettel runaway with the title.

Di Resta is the man. Dude was sick in DTM and he shows his car skill off in that Force India just embarrassing Sutil by exposing the average driver he is!

Yeah... We just jacked this thread! Lol

Hey guys check out I started a Formula One and NIN thread in the general discussion area, seeing as there seems to be a few of us with great taste in auto racing and I'm not talking Nascar!
And yes Ferrari will reach the top again and Alonso will be World champion again.....to be continued



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Krazy95 posted:

I'm tired of pissing and moaning and becoming agitated because of this crap, so I'll offer some comic relief...

K95: Thanks for keepin' it real and keepin' it light in here

RyanJ and nan2112: Would love to join the discourse, but haven't followed F-1 since the days of LBGP in the 80's when it was still F-1 and before it was takin' over by fucking CART. My aunt was on the board in those days, so I got to hang in the garages and chat with the drivers. Speaking of Ferrari - R.I.P.: Gilles Villaneuve: One helluva guy!

K95: Speaking of cars... I caught this over at AFP's site. Apparently Hitler went APE-SHIT over Rebecca Black's seating arrangements as well...

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Don't blame me if you piss yourself!

Peace,

mixter_

let's discuss Grand Prix again?
so, yesterday it rained at 1st practice in Istanbul and dried at 2nd practice.
it wasn't very evident about relative strengths on wet track but Alonso proved his skill by being the fastest. Ferrari already had 3 wins there, all by Felipe Massa, who's in good shape so far. World champion Sebastian Vettel crashed his car and had no chance to practice again even during dry session 3 hours later, but his team mate Mark Webber looked very good on his long runs. Top four was dominated by Mercedes engines - Button, Rosberg, Hamilton, Schumacher all raced close despite having a lot of shaky moments on climbs and falls of Turkish circuit. Other competitors for top ten appear to be the drivers of remaining Ferrari engines - Toro Rosso and Sauber teams, that is. Yet neither of them seems to pose real threat on Renault team, where both Petrov and Heidfeld feel comfortable and aren't going to make it easy for Ferrari and Mercedes.
3rd practice will be quite interesting, begins in 30 minutes...

...and about 3rd practice. almost everything went predictable, except for Sebastian's little victory over Michael with time difference of just 0.001 sec + some outstanding lap by Buemi (Toro Rosso) who took the lead in latter half of session just before most cars changed hard tyres to soft. Alonso had gearbox problems in final minutes - stuck at 6th and couldn't improve his time.

Qualification 1st part saw HRT, Lotus and Marussia Virgin teams knocked out along with Kamui Kobayashi (Sauber) who suffered gearbox problem similar to Alonso's Ferrari earlier.
2nd part knocked out both Toro Rosso's (Buemi and Alguersuari), both Williams (Barricello and Maldonado), both Force India's (Sutil and Di Resta) and other Sauber (Sergio Perez).
3rd part - Massa did not set any time (apparently no good tyres left) and will start 10th, behind Schumacher (who's between both Renault's) and Alonso (who's between both McLaren's). Pole position once again taken by Vettel, but Webber and Rosberg will put a great deal of pressure on him tomorrow.



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Don't be so sure about Petrov, i read an interview with Schumacher and he admits that incident on 1st lap was more his fault. Then try to count how nervous Lewis was... great race nevertheless, only one DNF and no safety car since the start of season! Shame that Istanbul round might be the last but i'm glad that Bahrain round didn't happen. Let's hope Barcelona won't be the same domination of Red Bulls

I'll play along as good as I can since I'm a fan of Ferrari, just not necessarily F1.

Here's a pic I took of the display at Ferrari of Waikiki Beach a couple years back. I don't remember the exact history of it, but it wasn't a replica (the plastic tires I can't speak for though):




Ferrari of San Diego. I had to go to San Diego for work. Lo and behold the lab I had to go to was RIGHT next to it: