Relaxed camera policy for NIN/JA defined

Relaxed camera policy for NIN/JA defined

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04/28/09 3:57 PM
RyanJ member reflectinginthechrome.com Joined: 04/11/08 Location: Detroit MI Posts: 517	taniasue posted: jarrettwold posted: The people that are going should super organize, maybe build a site around this? I'm a developer so I could chip in development time for that. I am going to the June 12th show, you have an awesome idea! go here: [www.reflectinginthechrome.com] we already got some things going. 9 shows with 9 audio and video masters! I am definitely running multiple sourced audio!
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04/28/09 2:57 PM
SKI2K9 member Joined: 03/28/09 Posts: 2	For an example... a Canon 5D with a 70-200mm f2.8 L lens on it is exactly the length of a piece of standard copy/printer paper so psyched! Thanks again Trent & co. !!!
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04/28/09 2:58 PM
xxxjennyx member just sayin Joined: 06/03/08 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 45	I. Love. You.
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04/28/09 2:58 PM
gamerwoman3d member Joined: 11/28/07 Posts: 151	trent_reznor posted: If a security guard hassles you for equipment that is allowed under our guidelines, please ask him to speak with NIN security about the matter and we will do our best to resolve it. Raises hand Excuse me... Does this mean you'll need extra security personnel to act as a liaison and deal with the venue security? Can I put in an application?
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04/28/09 4:00 PM
RyanJ member reflectinginthechrome.com Joined: 04/11/08 Location: Detroit MI Posts: 517	gamerwoman3d posted: trent_reznor posted: If a security guard hassles you for equipment that is allowed under our guidelines, please ask him to speak with NIN security about the matter and we will do our best to resolve it. Raises hand Excuse me... Does this mean you'll need extra security personnel to act as a liaison and deal with the venue security? Can I put in an application? at the door bring TR's post from this thread and show it at the door. it should help immensely.
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04/28/09 3:00 PM
quinndwnin member Joined: 04/17/09 Location: CLT Posts: 2	Very Cool! Trent on the cutting edge yet again. Thanks to both Jane's A and Street Sweeper. I'm sure the had to ssign on as well
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04/28/09 3:01 PM
Calderon08 member Captain of Bearded Clam Joined: 09/07/08 Posts: 3,116	trent_reznor posted: I don't have any recording devices but I'd kind of like to make out with Ilan. NO (probably). Fuck! Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/28/2009 03:01PM by Calderon08.
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04/28/09 3:01 PM
gateway69 member Joined: 04/16/09 Location: san francisco Posts: 19	video is never an issue, I think i tweeted to trent which im sure he gets way to many to follow, about maybe providing us with a download of the shows audio from the mixer, that way we could sync up our video and audio for those who like to do that stuff... I always like watching cam stuff but the audio is always annoying from cameras.. of course I could understand why not to provide this type of audio to us.. but just curious..? Steve [ibareitall.com] Game Designer, even back in the old id software days
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04/28/09 4:02 PM
notequilanomatches member Queenbee Joined: 11/27/07 Location: here Posts: 28	kevout posted: I'm guessing this is a NO, but could I please get some clarification? I'm a professional photographer. I've bought a ticket, and will be attending the show. If I get a photo that I feel would work well in my portfolio, may I use it for that? These photos would not be sold or given to clients; they would merely be a show piece. Again, I'm expecting the answer to be no, but I'd like to double check. Thanks! I was going to ask a similar question. Wanted to use pix in a project I'm working on. No part of the project would be bought/sold, just publicly displayed. Again, thank you.
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04/28/09 3:04 PM
Shitfuckdamn There's my Chippy! Joined: 07/01/08 Location: EVERYWHERE IN THE US Posts: 1,454	sex
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04/28/09 4:04 PM
RyanJ member reflectinginthechrome.com Joined: 04/11/08 Location: Detroit MI Posts: 517	gateway69 posted: video is never an issue, I think i tweeted to trent which im sure he gets way to many to follow, about maybe providing us with a download of the shows audio from the mixer, that way we could sync up our video and audio for those who like to do that stuff... I always like watching cam stuff but the audio is always annoying from cameras.. of course I could understand why not to provide this type of audio to us.. but just curious..? Steve [ibareitall.com] Game Designer, even back in the old id software days thats why you run audio separate. Camera mics are not supposed to capture audio at 112 db.
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04/28/09 3:04 PM
Silver7 member pm Joined: 11/16/08 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 200	Thanx Trent, i'am glad you did this, i took some amazing pixs on the LITS TOUR. & i'am glad i could for the NIN\JA!!!! You rock, love ya peace
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04/28/09 3:05 PM
AGiftToTearApart member Joined: 03/21/09 Posts: 3	trent_reznor posted: I don't have any recording devices but I'd kind of like to make out with Ilan. NO (probably). If he weren't younger than me, I'd consider it, haha. Thanks for the explanation! I'd love to be able to document this experience<3
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04/28/09 3:07 PM
trentobsessed member trentobsessed Joined: 09/23/08 Location: Florida Posts: 153	Man, this sweetens the deal. Thank you Trent & Co. See you in WPB in 9 DAYS!!!!
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04/28/09 3:09 PM
dot.shiva member all your base Joined: 05/07/08 Location: Hell%2C Las Vegas%2C NV Posts: 13	Thank you thank you! I cannot wait! ...and thanks yet again for being the pioneers on making concerts a better and more personal experience for the fans. We thank you and praise you !!!!
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04/28/09 3:09 PM
gateway69 member Joined: 04/16/09 Location: san francisco Posts: 19	RyanJ posted: gateway69 posted: video is never an issue, I think i tweeted to trent which im sure he gets way to many to follow, about maybe providing us with a download of the shows audio from the mixer, that way we could sync up our video and audio for those who like to do that stuff... I always like watching cam stuff but the audio is always annoying from cameras.. of course I could understand why not to provide this type of audio to us.. but just curious..? Steve [ibareitall.com] Game Designer, even back in the old id software days thats why you run audio separate. Camera mics are not supposed to capture audio at 112 db. can you recommend a good stereo one?
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04/28/09 4:10 PM
RyanJ member reflectinginthechrome.com Joined: 04/11/08 Location: Detroit MI Posts: 517	gateway69 posted: RyanJ posted: gateway69 posted: video is never an issue, I think i tweeted to trent which im sure he gets way to many to follow, about maybe providing us with a download of the shows audio from the mixer, that way we could sync up our video and audio for those who like to do that stuff... I always like watching cam stuff but the audio is always annoying from cameras.. of course I could understand why not to provide this type of audio to us.. but just curious..? Steve [ibareitall.com] Game Designer, even back in the old id software days thats why you run audio separate. Camera mics are not supposed to capture audio at 112 db. can you recommend a good stereo one? if your looking for something cheap (but really good in quality) you can always use a Sony ECM-717 or the Sony ECM-719. I find those to be the nicests mics under 100.
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04/28/09 3:12 PM
dimwell member Joined: 04/13/08 Location: Huntsville%2C AL Posts: 4	SKI2K9 posted: For an example... a Canon 5D with a 70-200mm f2.8 L lens on it is exactly the length of a piece of standard copy/printer paper I'll be shooting a 50D w/ the 70-200/2.8 and 24-70/2.8 in Atlanta.
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04/28/09 3:13 PM
javyelow member Joined: 08/18/08 Location: Madrid Posts: 3	amazing! you are the best! but i preffer to see your live for my own eyes! please come to spain! please please aaarg
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04/28/09 4:14 PM
Lydia63 member "Lego" Trent is Fun! Joined: 11/26/07 Posts: 624	trent_reznor posted: I don't have any recording devices but I'd kind of like to make out with Ilan. NO (probably). Yes! That means, other than Ilan, the rest of the band members are fair game!!!
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04/28/09 3:20 PM
aware member Joined: 01/08/09 Posts: 39	thanks
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04/28/09 3:22 PM
ShayaanF member Joined: 09/12/08 Posts: 1	In reality the whole post boils down to "don't be a douchebag".
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04/28/09 3:22 PM
lunitikcalm member Joined: 11/28/07 Posts: 2	Not to rain on everyones parade. But isnt it going to suck if instead of watching the show, everyone is going to be watching a bunch of people filming the show? I mean, it already sucks ass that every show I go to i have to deal with the dumb fucks who try to take a picture of the show with their shitty camera phone, which annoyingly blocks everyone else's line of sight to the stage. Now instead of a ton of little phones in our way, we are going to have a crap load of big ass camcorders in our way. Don't get me wrong, its the the thought that counts and its a great thought, but I have a feeling that in practice this might really suck.
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04/28/09 3:22 PM
maryelle member THAT is a big-ass lens-TR Joined: 05/07/08 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,147	notequilanomatches posted: kevout posted: I'm guessing this is a NO, but could I please get some clarification? I'm a professional photographer. I've bought a ticket, and will be attending the show. If I get a photo that I feel would work well in my portfolio, may I use it for that? These photos would not be sold or given to clients; they would merely be a show piece. Again, I'm expecting the answer to be no, but I'd like to double check. Thanks! I was going to ask a similar question. Wanted to use pix in a project I'm working on. No part of the project would be bought/sold, just publicly displayed. Well I'm not NIN but I have shot them twice on a pass, and on a pass they allow use of the photos shot on that pass in one's portfolio or on a Web site* or if you want to make your own prints for your own use and display them, even, as long as you're not using them commercially or for merchandising purposes, so I can't imagine why they would forbid people from using pictures shot otherwise, like in this relaxed camera policy, in the same way. They also allow use of non-pass-authorized photos on Flickr and allow them to be API'd over to this site. It's not like they don't already know people are taking thousands of pictures of them. There are other legalities involving pictures taken in this kind of environment, which I don't want to go into here, but you can PM me if you have questions. However, even though I am not speaking for NIN, being just a regular person who has nothing to do with them, I am fairly sure that you would be allowed to use them for a portfolio and in a project. As long as you don't use them commercially you should be fine. I plan to take pictures and I will use them on my Web site, Flickr, and possibly in my portfolio, just as I've done for many other NIN shows and dozens of other band's shows. I know NIN is aware of where I'm using them and nobody has told me to stop yet. Note that when shooting on a pass*, I had to disclose the publication and/or Web site that the pictures would be appearing in. But all you guys don't have to worry about that since you're not shooting on a pass. The rules are different in some aspects, legally speaking. Edit: this doesn't necessarily mean you can go take pictures and have a magazine/newspaper publish them. I can't speak to that; you should contact NIN management if you are approached by a publication or wish to submit pictures for editorial use. I highly doubt they expect people to take video or pictures and then not share them with anyone. They surely expect them to be on Flickr if nowhere else and for people to use the API to have them flow over to the image galleries here on nin.com. If Trent wishes to come here and give me a "wrong" I would happily take being corrected. :-P But he won't. Don't worry, if you're not selling them I can't imagine they'd have a problem with anything else. Edit: I am not your attorney, etc. Do not misconstrue advice on a message board for anything "official." I'm telling you what my personal experience is and what I plan to do. Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 04/28/2009 03:33PM by maryelle.
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04/28/09 3:23 PM
TryToSaveMyself member Joined: 10/05/08 Location: Tenderville Posts: 1	you really are the coolest for allowing this. not like thats anything new but what if we want to make out with ilan AND record it?
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04/28/09 3:24 PM
Terrible Lie_Katie member Joined: 09/04/08 Posts: 159	Thank you x
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04/28/09 3:24 PM
ZeeKrinkle member Joined: 09/10/08 Location: Tn Posts: 118	Just one of those things people might be interested in if they are taking any of Cannons DSLR series to the concert, especially if they are daring enough to take into the pit this might help add I small bit of protection....Link Good luck recording, I am debating on bringing an SLR, even though I have pit tickets> i know i am going to bring a Stereo Voice Recorder.
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04/28/09 3:26 PM
adilicious member just a face in the crowd Joined: 01/20/09 Location: Italy Posts: 211	i just hope Mr. T will try at least to extend this relaxed camera policy to the forthcoming european indoor shows...
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04/28/09 3:29 PM
tonesource202 member fairly futile Joined: 11/27/07 Posts: 532	awesome! great! sweet! thanks! excellent! cheers! awesome! great! sweet! thanks! excellent! cheers! awesome! great! sweet! thanks! excellent! cheers! we get the gist. I'm sure they do, too. but it's great to hear, so sorry for being a fud for pointing out the repetitions, it just had to be done by some NIN fan - hell, it's the way we operate. (good things = bad things. never happy unless we're unhappy. a great recipe for continued comments all round!! blinder!) apologies. it was truely awesome! great! sweet! thanks! excellent! cheers!
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04/28/09 3:29 PM
ginalu member Joined: 04/11/08 Location: a sucky Bible-belt town i Posts: 120	Oh thank you so very much! This is great for our own personal memories. I'm super happy about the relaxed camera policy; however, I doubt I will be still long enough to record, be to busy rockin' out in the pit. LOL!
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