NIN Crew,

Thanks for putting this tour together. I am very excited to get to see JA for the first time. I have always been a fan of theirs, however, touring has been scant from them as of late

And, to all of you who are planning on leaving after NIN exits the stage, please, try to reconsider. This would be extremely disrespectful to ALL of the bands that are sharing the bill. I am just thankful that I get to see NIN for the 12th time and JA for the first! Who care's who performs first or last. Regardless, you get to see NIN destroy you.

Try and stay to experience Janes, even for just 10 min. If you decide to leave, fine, you gave it your best shot. And, I will be happy to occupy the the seat that is closer to the stage that you paid for! >

No matter what order they play, it's going to fucking rule. Enough said.

I think it would be interesting to see NIN in the daytime, and like I said it's better for filming and photography. Also, if the sun gets to setting in just the right way it'll be totally awesome.

I wonder if NIN will be having an encore worked into their set list, or if the encore will be a "duet"-type thing with JA-like starting with maybe a couple last NIN songs then ending with one or two JA songs with Trent in them as a kind of "transition", which I believe is similar to what they did with David Bowie (with Bowie singing in "Reptile" and "Hurt" and Trent in "Scary Monsters" and "Subterraneans" ). The way I could see this being difficult of course is the fact that it's set up with 15-minute breaks for the next band to go in and set up their equipment so if anything NIN's "encore" could be just having the lead singer from JA (Perry I think it is-sorry I haven't been into the band long enough) do a couple songs with NIN, then the break-then Trent comes out with JA to do a couple songs-although it would perhaps be better to make it a "surprise appearance" in the middle of their set-it might work better for NIN fans to have Trent there at the beginning just to "draw them in"-at least if they haven't left already during the break.

So anyway whatever they do I'm sure it'll be awesome. I also hope they play "And All That Could Have Been" for the first time during this tour and either make it a "staple" (I know they're probably planning to have as few of those as possible during the tour but I think the exceptionally rare/never been played before tracks should get special treatment given the fact that this may be their last tour in a while) or just play it at the Kansas City show I'm going to (I'd rather have it be a staple though so I don't feel as selfish about it, though. lol). "Sunspots" would also be awesome just because it's been requested so much and I don't personally care whether it's sung the same way it is on the album or not.

Oh yes, and Trent I'll be the next person here to THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING-Ghosts, The Slip, the LitS tour, playing "The Wretched", "Down In It" and "Reptile" in Minneapolis, the gift footage, the relaxed camera policies and despite the disadvantages of a daylight show I'll still thank you for that because it'll probably make filming and photography easier overall. I'll also thank you for the fact that I'll get to see you play a bit sooner and that I won't have to deal with quite as many assholes trying to boo Jane's Addiction off the stage when they play. Last of all thank you for Nine Inch Nails itself and just for being you-because YOU ARE AWESOME. I won't say you're a God 'cause that's idolatry and I'd don't roll like that but I will say you are "Closer" to God than most people (not in a spiritual/religious way, more in a hierarchical way, lol).

And to SickMessiah-I won't accuse you of complaining-I think you put what you wanted to say quite well and your concerns are valid to some extent. Regardless of that, I don't think Trent's going to change his mind about it-the arrangement is kinda set in stone as it were. But again I'm sure the show will be awesome enough in other ways to make up for the fact that it's happening in daylight.

And wouldn't it be awesome to see them play "In This Twilight" when it's ACTUALLY twilight?!



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What's going on around here? Never-mind, don't tell me. I'm not saying anything,I mean I don't know Trent or anything, I just don't like to see him upset. Trent has the "Fear of God" in me.
I'm terrified of Trent.

I know I'm late on this part, but thanks Trent and Co. for the later than expected end time to the Chicago set. I was only worried because I know how lame Chicago can be and wouldn't expect any less out of their noise curfew.
And now I'll hold my excitement for one more month...if I can.

ah yes, i MIGHT have an extra ticket (upper balcony) to give to anyone who would like to attend this show. my buddy is still 50/50 on going. i'll give a head's up in time!

i forgot to mention it's an Austin ticket... wrong thread!

JA is a huge reason alternative music gained success and recognition in the early 90's and was partially responsible for getting NIN some well deserved attention. I think it's awesome Trent is allowing JA to take the headline spot. It would almost seem irreverent and egotistical for it to be otherwise. Anyone skipping this iconic band is ridiculous and will be missing some of the most creative, timeless and influential music out there.

Well, I absolutely LOVE both BOTH bands. They are 2 of my all time favs (tool, floyd... and so on... And nothing against Janes, I'm sure they will be amazing... But I'd HATE to follow NIN... No matter WHO I am. (Anyone remember Bowie? lol) 'cept for maybe Tool...lol. SO yeah, disappointing. But there's no WAY I'm leaving early. JA is a very good band. Anyone who leaves early is a douch. And maybe Trent is doing it out of respect or something. JA did give NIN a hand up back in the day... who knows.. Besides, I'd be willing to bet Trent will be doing something with them.

halo33 posted:

Maybe, and im going out on a limb here, and correct me if Im wrong TR... but he has said, this whole tour is about him and his band, going out, and having FUN,

now I dont know about you, but if I was going out on the road, for what could be the last time for a long time, I would *love* to be able to tour with one of my most favorite and respected bands, and have the ability to watch them perform every nite!

its a lot easier to be able to watch the action after a gig than before. maybe he just wants to play in the sun, chill out, and watch one of his favorites! its not so hard to imagine.

everyone here seems so entitled, and are only thinking about themselves in this matter.. but fuck that. the man has done a LOT for us. maybe we should just let him enjoy this one.

I could not have said it better myself. You are absolutely right...Trent has done so much for you people...now do something for him and stop complaining.

SickMessiah posted:

trent_reznor posted:

Keep in mind an awful lot of thought has gone into this decision - certainly MUCH more than most of the comments here. The beauty of the situation is this: if you want to leave, LEAVE. Nobody's forcing you to stay - go home.
The show NIN is going to play is the exact opposite of LITS. The sets will be truly varied, there's no production limitations and we know a LOT of material now. I wanted play first, and I wanted to start the set in daylight. If you're here reading and frothing on this board, you're likely a fan. You've likely seen us recently - this is a chance to see something quite different. JA is not bigger than us and we're not bigger than JA - this is an issue of respect and simply WHAT I WANT TO DO because I do have a master plan here. Open up your minds for a second and lay off the knee-jerk reactionary bullshit for a second - it's embarrassing for all of us.

TRent Ill put it like this ... All Most of us nin fans are really upset about it that
we all love NIN in its fullest with vivid lights durring the night .. Here in INdiana we have that gay ass day Light savings time ... Meaning it even get dark here untill 9 .. So most of the nin show will be in daylight ... Which is very disappointing .. I have finally got my little sister which i have shown many of kewl LIve NIN videos to come with me thins time to come see you .. She is 15 .. Which is the age of my first NIN show ...
Well I was very excited to show my little sister the awesomeness of nine inch nails and its light shows that accompany it . Come to find out NIN wont even be closing the shows .. Jane's addiction will be . Which isnt bad untill you think this. NIN will start playing at between 7:45 and 8:15 depending on the day ... So they will be playing in fucking daylight for half or more of there set !!!! And with daylight savings time like here in indiana .. It means even more daylight for ni to play in .. which is highly upsetting since the lights wont be near as vivid ... I wouldn't be mad at all if NIN would delay everything for a hour ... i still wanna see NIN ... But if this is possibly a good bye from NIne Inch Nails ... A band i have spent at least a grand on since i became a fan 10 years ago .. Dont i deserve to see NIN in the greatest lighting and sound possible ... If trent would Just make it at Night.... Maybe even wait till the exact time of sundown ... I would be much happier .. As a matter of fact i would be even happier then if jane would have opened for NIN ... Cuz then i could just see nin in its greatest and not had to wait as long to see it .. Anyhow .. I hope Trent reads this ... And see's that i did indeed put thought into my comment .. Not all NIN fans are mindless dicks ... Alot are kewl ... Like me (" dont that sound arrogant "}lol .. And alot are sad folks who are kinda wierd cuz of it .. ( like me 2 ) And some are just pissed off at a currupt world full of lies and terrorisym of the mind brought in by greed , religion , and politics , and others are just dumb ... Dumb people are everyplace ... So dont be mad at your fans .. They just wanna see the best of you .. I still am excited to see NIN .

You're not cool. You sound like my retarded cousin.........

damienxaros posted:

Manifestation Facilitator posted:

I didn't like it much either untill I heard it a few times....

I was that way with Saul Williams too....

I guess that is the way it goes with good music, that your ears aren't trained for.

After some years now I have realized that if I don't like a song or album on the first try, it because it's really good and I am just not ready for it at that time. Sure enough after about 5 or so listenings straight through I am usually hooked and that album soon becomes a favorite.

As with Saul Williams, there are some songs that I think are OK and some I don't care for at all. As with Jane's...when I was 16 I bought Ritual...hated it. When I was 20 tried nothing's shocking, didn't care for it. Now I'm 34 and bought the Best Of CD...it's really not all that great. Yeah, there are some good songs, but I just can't stomach them. I don't find anything appealing about thier music. Most of the lyrics...well...just don't resonate with me anything like NIN, and now SSSS, do...

I don't understand this. This isn't rocket science here. To the people who are bitching about this and aren't fans of JA...you get to go home after NIN plays and you don't have to watch JA. What part of that don't you understand??? Stop bitching about light shows and daylight savings time and come out and see a great moment in music history. What a bunch of babies.

CCCHHHIIILLL. Let it happen baby, let it happen.

It's like, let the man do his job, duh.

Or stay at home and masturbate.

This thread should be closed.

jayetheartist posted:

SickMessiah posted:

Alot of you NIN fans think if Trent was to become a flaming homo that it would be ok , and even kewl cuz " trent is god " to you ... Grow up ..

No, you grow up. If Trent wants to do something we think it's okay because it's his decision. He doesn't need our approval.

Oh, and it's nice that you'd tell everyone to grow up right after saying something as juvenile as "flaming homo."

Thanks for posting this already Jaye.

SickMessiah, what exactly is it you're trying to say? You sound like an idiot when you say "kewl" and use hateful homophobic language.