NIN iPhone app rejection
 
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05/03/09 7:17 PM

I'm so glad the laptop I just bought WASN'T a Mac.

 

05/03/09 7:17 PM

magnumchaos posted:
Trent, I couldn't agree more. Apple and Wal-Mart and such stores have become morally ambiguous and hypocritical to a melting point. Do they not even have a clue as to the number of sales they have lost because of their poor "moral and upstanding" standards and policies?

Sadly, so true. It's also what is preventing me from GIVING them 700+ dollars for an iPhone. For that kind of cash, they need to unlock it for me so I can use it with my international carrier when I am living abroad. Instead I am told I cannot use the iPhone outside of AT&T....which means they are loosing my app cash, my itunes cash & my original investment of 700 dollars because they can't fathom how to work around the fact that AT&T is not international.

RAWR. That may not be concise in it's explanation, but I just got through arguing with AT&T so, my brain is not well.

 

05/03/09 7:17 PM

I love that people are seeing Apple is no better than other big corporations out there. They pull the same shit and stunts, and do not deserve to be ass kissed all the time. Sure they make some good products, just like Microsoft does, but they are still a money hungry company.

 

05/03/09 7:17 PM

mustacheman posted:
Damn that sucks. I always hate inconsistencies and hypocrisy. The only album from any band I would purchase at Wal-Mart would be Ghosts, since it's being sold for 9 bucks (and I really need to replace the one I have). I always hated how Wal-Mart will edit music, but leave the DVD's alone. I don't have an iPhone or anything, so this doesn't really affect me, but I'm sure people really wanted this. It's shit like this that makes me want to business elsewhere. .__. Fucking assholes.

Yes, the iPhone app is pretty cool. It has a combination of useful and intuitive features that have been brought to the forefront of technology thanks to the features of the iPhone. It's just disappointing that Apple has to prove themselves a bunch of hypocritical assholes that need to go fuck themselves.

 

05/03/09 7:17 PM

But "Pee Monkey Toilet Trainer" is perfectly suitable. (Currently #6 on the Free Apps chart, BTW). The people in charge of green-lighting apps are idiots.

 

05/03/09 7:17 PM

I can't say "I'm a Mac" and feel cool about it anymore ^^

 

05/03/09 7:18 PM

Didn't apple approve that baby shaker app a couple weeks ago or whatever? Fuckinay.

 

05/03/09 7:18 PM

So, dumb!!! Glad to see Trent pissed at them. And if Apple looked at half of our profiles I bet they would say the same thing, "indecent". Fucking dumb.

 

05/03/09 7:19 PM

andtracee posted:
magnumchaos posted:
Trent, I couldn't agree more. Apple and Wal-Mart and such stores have become morally ambiguous and hypocritical to a melting point. Do they not even have a clue as to the number of sales they have lost because of their poor "moral and upstanding" standards and policies?

Sadly, so true. It's also what is preventing me from GIVING them 700+ dollars for an iPhone. For that kind of cash, they need to unlock it for me so I can use it with my international carrier when I am living abroad. Instead I am told I cannot use the iPhone outside of AT&T....which means they are loosing my app cash, my itunes cash & my original investment of 700 dollars because they can't fathom how to work around the fact that AT&T is not international.

RAWR. That may not be concise in it's explanation, but I just got through arguing with AT&T so, my brain is not well.

I understand your explanation clearly. I have an iPhone with the nin:access app, and it's jailbroken. Lets put it this way, the iPhone is cool and useful, but Apple as a company and service is really starting to suck. My first iPhone was defective, and I went several rounds with Apple to get the thing replaced when they kept telling me it was a software issue, and clearly wasn't.

So, Apple is getting less and less money from me. They have taken great ideas, and implemented them POORLY.

 

05/03/09 7:19 PM

Can't get much more retarded than Apple.

 

05/03/09 7:20 PM

This is ridiculous. It's not like a FAN of Nine Inch Nails, is going to download a Nine Inch Nails iPhone app, and say "OH MY GOD, THIS IS SO TERRIBLE, AND VIOLENT."

I don't personally own an iPhone, but if I did, I would be pissed. I'm just hoping this doesn't happen if you guys ever port this app over to other phones. I would really love to see the app on my future Palm Pre.

 

05/03/09 7:20 PM

Does that mean you'll use Windows from now on???

 

05/03/09 7:20 PM

i have no comment... gee whiz, going back to happy place. la da da da grinning smiley

why is TR allowed to get pissed off and vent, but us mbr's aren't?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/03/2009 07:23PM by china cat.

 

05/03/09 7:21 PM

Am I the only one with a Love/Hate relationship to Apple?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/03/2009 07:22PM by fredrikekman.

 

05/03/09 7:21 PM

So not surprised. Apple is monopolistic in all it does. Fuck em. I have but one Apple product (wife's Nano) and unless the 3rd Gen iPhone does more of what I want there still wont be any more Apple products. And so wonderful how they push gaming on your fucking phone...real hi tech there! I want to game on PC's...not my puny phone cept in emergency boredom stuck somewhere, one reason we have 4 PC's in this house...

I hope that is the actual reply you sent them Trent!

See you in Irvine!

Cheers!

 

05/03/09 7:21 PM

Can someone put this in DIGG so this could have more viewers than nin fans only ...

 

05/03/09 7:21 PM

Touché

 

05/03/09 7:22 PM

trent_reznor posted:
You can buy The Downward Fucking Spiral on iTunes, but you can't allow an iPhone app that may have a song with a bad word somewhere in it.

The Downward Fucking Spiral, that must be a new remix album. I don't have that one! tongue sticking out smiley

All joking aside, that's pretty fucking retarded of Apple, considering you can buy TDS on iTunes. And god helps us all if a kid can hear a bad word through their phone, when likely they've said it themselves about 100 times that day.

 

05/03/09 7:22 PM

I would have thought Apple would be calling you every night seeing how your app is coming in it's development. I quick look at the millions of apps in the App Store show just how crappy the quality of the average app really is. If I were Apple I would jump all over the opportunity to work with A-list stars who want to get material out to there fans.

I'm sure the fact that this app is given away as free accounts party for the shitty support that Apple is giving it. Out of all of the Apps that I have, this was the second that I would consider paying for. (I have to play X-Plane Helicopter)

 

05/03/09 7:22 PM

A few thoughts...

1. Someone is having a powertrip at Apple - shit happens.
2. Most likely Apple just released an internal knee-jerk reaction memo due to the wonderful "baby shaker" game and anything that might be possible politically incorrect or offensive to anybody's granny will be rejected. Give it a week and resubmit.
3. Like I said in my Tweet, do a South Park on them and take the "offensive" material and change it to the most offensive shit you can think of. With this in mind, I suggest you change all references to TDS to Pussygrinder or George Bush or something similar.

 

05/03/09 7:22 PM

I've checked and Apple are allowing a Bible App on the iPhone. I can confirm that this horrific book includes rape (Numbers 31:15-18), incest and child abuse (Genesis 19:32-36), genocide (1 Samuel 15:2-3), homophobia all of which are disapproved of by Apple's moral code. I gather that the sick fuckers who follow this book actually ritually EAT their savior on Sundays. Sick, sick and twisted bastards the lot of them.

If they are going to ban the Downward Spiral content then I demand that Apple remove this sickening disgusting book The Bible to prevent it warping any young minds and leading them to a life of hate and intolerance.

My suggestion is follow Barack Obama's lead and get a Blackberry (still more popular and more likely to get tech support than the Apple shit). Works fine with an Apple or Windows OS and isn't run by a bunch of hypocritical bastards think it's OK to ban something just to appease the same sick-fuckers who don't think The Bible is dangerous.

Here's to Freedom FROM religion. Pornographic? Yeah right, hypocrites.

 

05/03/09 7:22 PM

FIGHT THE POWER.

I am with you 100%, Reznor.

 

05/03/09 7:24 PM

Two things.

A. at chunkylimey - the Bible is not horrible and neither are all Christians. (I am not a religious person, and this is not personal). The horrible thing is the misinterpretation of the Bible, and taking it out of historical context.

B. Apple has an App full of "Hot Asian Chicks." Pornographic? Yes. Demeaning? Yes.

 

05/03/09 7:24 PM

CAUTION, EXPLICIT LANGUAGE, NOT SUITABLE FOR ANYONE WHO DOESN'T BELEIVE IN THE RIGHT FOR PEOPLE TO MAKE THEIR OWN CHOICES, OR FREEDOM OF SPEECH.



No shit.

But really, what in the hell is Apple thinking? I was just thinking this the other day when I saw that they rejected it, yet, I can go on iTunes and get an uncensored version of songs and videos that I can download... I am so pissed about this, mostly from the fucking double standard that NIN is all of a sudden getting from Apple. I wonder how many people have purchased and downloaded the NIN Tap Tap Revenge?? With what like 400,000 people following TR on twitter, I would say it's probably A LOT... here we are, NIN fans once again supporting TR and Co...supporting a company THEY believe in, and then this happens...Nice, thanks a whole fucking lot Apple. By the way, I just bought a fucking iPhone, so that I could enjoy all of the apps, but also because I wanted to support a company that one of the greatest artists of our time really had great things to share, through a company that he believes in... it pisses me off that he has to continue to deal with the same bullshit from a company that is supposed to be so innovative and reliable in the music and entertainment world...like TR said, the least they can do is be fucking consistent.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/03/2009 07:27PM by hopeforme31.

 

05/03/09 7:25 PM

This is just absurd. I thought you were joking at first...

Makes you wonder if their concern is really a moral one over "objectionable content" or some legal maneuvering to avoid ridiculous lawsuits. Either way you slice it, this is the most inane decision. This is an app designed for NIN fans. If someone had found NIN objectionable, they wouldn't even know about the app in the first place.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/04/2009 06:18PM by kqkitty.

 

05/03/09 7:25 PM

Angry as usual I see, Mr. Reznor. tongue sticking out smiley

I agree, it's kind of dumb that Apple would reject your app for something like that. What makes even less sense is: why would they reject it now, when the streaming was supported before? It makes no sense.

 

05/03/09 7:25 PM

A few months ago, every NIN fan thought that Apple was the salvation of the Earth, because Trent/Rob always say that Macs > PCs, and people using Windows are still in the stone age, etc.

But now Trent posts a little rant, and suddenly everyone is all "OMG I HATE APPLE, FUCK APPLE"???

So much for "sharing" the same opinion as your favorite artist's.

 

05/03/09 7:26 PM

Seven1963 posted:
Apple claim to support innovation and here they are resorting to the same old crap we see from companies the world over.

It is, however, brilliant to see you actually calling these companies on their hypocrisy and complete lack of consistency.

I love that you don't jump through hoops for these morons.

i'm with Seven on this one.
FUCK jumping through hoops, that shit's for dogs and familiars...

 

05/03/09 7:26 PM

i could rant like crazy on this issue too, but the thing that gets me (as an iphone developer) is: what now? those letters for rejection do not include enough information, explanation or resolution. some folks whom have submitted bigger apps get rejected with no screenshots, email explanation or phone call. just the standard three paragraph email; which is posted above.

apple - why can't you just filter apps for technical problems (common crashes), or large network usages that your carrier friends don't want. not content. you don't filter music, videos, etc... but these apps being filtered is soooo hard for all us (include you apple).

good luck trent and sudjam with the iphone updates.

 

05/03/09 7:26 PM

Fuck Apple. If Apple is giving you this bullshit, pull the app and sell it on the Android Market, for Android phones (aka Googlephones, e.g. the T-Mobile G1).

 
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