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dolemite posted:JaneNY posted:dolemite posted:As I said in the first page of this thread.
1. Remove the song, the "objectionable content" from the podcast.
2. Resubmit the app.
3. Get app approval, now that the objectionable content is gone.
4. Re-post the original podcast, which contains the objectional content.
5. Give the app store approval process the finger.
That would definitely be the pragmatic way. Would he do it? It might give the appearance of capitulating though the desired result is achieved. I like much of Apple's stuff but they deserve to have a bit of a shitstorm over their inconsistent standards of approval of apps. If the above way was done, Apple's bad PR quietly goes away prematurely IMO.
I wouldn't really see it as capitulating. Apple's system does not work, so I'd just "work the system," get my app approved, and be done with it. If they can't come up with a practical, reasonable set of standards, then that's the treatment they're asking for. In fact, I'd probably "work the system" like that in order to set a precedent for other developers trying to find ways around the ridiculous approvement process. "Working" it like that and posting the "offensive" content back on the podcast would only work to show how utterly ridiculous the process is anyway.
At least, that's my two cents.
= BillBailey posted:Nirvana never changed words to their albums for wal mart--they only changed the title for rape me and the back cover artwork for in utero and that was Cobain's call
excerpt from the book Kurt Cobain's Last Days Detailed by Manager Danny Goldberg
When 'In Utero' was about to come out, Geffen heard that Wal-Mart would not carry the album unless a different album cover was chosen, because the original included pictures of fetuses. Kurt had designed the artwork, and I assumed he would resist any pressure to change it.
I reassured Kurt that the band was coming off a number-one album and that he could hold firm. Nirvana fans, I assured him, would find the album elsewhere. Kurt calmly but firmly interrupted me and said in his earnest slacker monotone, "Of course I want our records in Wal-Mart. When I was a kid, the only place near where we lived to buy records was a Wal-Mart. One of the reasons I make records is for kids like me." He had no problem creating an alternative cover in order to reach Wal-Mart shoppers.
Thanks, Nirvana were my favorite band growing up, and I was hoping someone would reference something like that. I understand Trent's reference to Nirvana though. Nirvana were/are the media "legends" of the 90's (a title which I think they deserve) and the standard by which many things are measured. --Anyway, thanks for the Nirvana quote clarifying Kurt's reasoning about Wal-Mart.
trent_reznor posted:Everyone - let me be clear. I love Apple products and as goofy and out-of-touch as their app approval process / policy is, I will still use them because they work 1000X better than the competition. This is not a debate, it's a fact. The iPhone is THE most elegant, modern smartphone at this point in time and it's perfect for what we want to do with the NIN app - except for the ludicrous approval process, and that's what I want to draw attention to.
Android is cool, but nobody has an Android phone. Blackberry is OK but the hardware is inconsistent and WinMo straight-up sucks balls. If Apple doesn't get it together, we will most certainly make it available to the jailbreak community. I didn't invest in this app to see it languish on the sidelines from an idiotic policy while this tour is in full swing.
Thanks for update and additional info.
You know, I'm not just saying this as a hardcore NIN fan, because I'm just as much of a hardcore Nirvana fan, but I think Trent/NIN was just as much of a true icon of the 90s as Kurt/Nirvana. I don't think "industrial" "goth" "rivethead" etc would be household terms if it wasn't for Trent/NIN. As corny as this sounds, I also don't think Hot Topic would exist if it wasn't for Trent. Sorry Trent if you read this, but it's true man. You have to take some responsibility for that abomination.
I also think it's kind of funny, and actually rivethead to the core, that Trent sometimes shys away from terming his music "industrial". For fuck sake man, you were working with Al Jourgensen, Genesis P. Orridge, and Pigface in the fucking 80s!!! YOU OPENED FOR SKINNY PUPPY FOR CHRIST SAKE. You made electronic music in the days were having just a digital OSCILLATOR on a synthesizer was high end, and remixing a song meant hours upon hours of meticulously splicing tape reels by hand. You made some of the most vicious, electronicly based, dissonenet music to ever make it to the top 10 charts. YOU DON'T GET MORE INDUSTRIAL THAN THAT.
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