NIN iPhone app rejection
 
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05/03/09 11:41 PM

You know what makes this situation, or any situation involving potentially rejected apps, even more stupid? Apple has code in the OS that can act as a remote kill switch if they please, meaning if the app was approved once the content was removed (I'm rolling my eyes at that), and then the podcast put back up, if Apple REALLY wanted to be all fishdicks about it they could. I haven't heard of a case where they've used that yet but still, that's fucking retarded. What I choose to have on my phone shouldn't have anything to do with Apple. I wholly agree there should be an optional update complete with fart sounds. Oh and that asian double penetration thing sounds cool too.

 

05/03/09 11:45 PM

pask posted:
batman_sandwich posted:
Did you know that the heads of the App store like to steal new born babies and rip their rib cages out to use as protective cases for their own hearts?

Seriously.

Join my website [www.appleisworsethanhitlerandtwiceasworseasstalin.net]

We have the answers. Clearly a little mix up in approval systems for their app store, which probably receives a few thousand submissions a day, is just about as bad as 9/11 and the London Bombings combined.

YEAH, FUCK APPLE

MICROSOFT HAS DONE NOTHING WRONG!

um, nobody said that exactly. and yes, this is worse than 9/11 tongue sticking out smiley

*****

so you can't reference a song that's already on itunes... wait... so it's okay if people BUY the song from itunes, but it's banned if it's a part of something that's given away for FREE?

I think you're starting to catch on to where this is all going here tongue sticking out smiley

I wouldn't be the least surprised if "the powers that be" in the entertainment industry basically said "we've got to pull the plug on this thing NOW" (the NIN app)

 

05/04/09 12:57 AM

enochroot posted:
trent_reznor posted:
The objectionable content referenced in this email is "The Downward Spiral". Since the app is live on the App store, please make the necessary changes to the application as soon as possible, and resubmit your binary to iTunes Connect. Thank you

v1.0 is live. v1.0.3 got rejected due to content yet the app has no content in it. this was mainly a stability release to fix the bug that crashes the app for international users. the bug was fixed 24 hours after 1.0 went live and we have been waiting for apple to approve it ever since. meanwhile the app continues to get a growing number of 1 star ratings from international users understandably frustrated by the bug. but looks like our hands are tied.

apple is not allowing us to make the current app more stable because there is "objectionable" content online (yes on the internet). so we are essentially not allowed to fixed bugs unrelated to the issue.

trent_reznor posted:
Now, "The Downward Spiral" the album is not available anywhere in the iPhone app. The song "The Downward Spiral" I believe is in a podcast that can be streamed to the app.

we removed the song "The Downward Spiral" from the server, hoping to appease apple and get this bug fix through. however i have yet to receive a reply.

To get this thread back on track a little, I'm quoting the NIN app developer from a few pages back. Looks like the objectionable content is gone, and we're waiting for a response. It seems like most people ignored that post, even though Trent tweeted about it.

 

05/04/09 12:00 AM

This place fills me with the strong desire to cleverly call out another poster on how stupid they and their heroes are. Ah, but not really. Actually, I just want to whine about how I paid my $105 fee for the developer program two weeks ago, and still haven't even been allowed in to download the new SDK. Since, you know, I can't sing anything on stage in West Palm Beach.

 

05/04/09 12:06 AM

trent_reznor posted:
If Apple doesn't get it together, we will most certainly make it available to the jailbreak community.

Fuck sake man, how did some old school rivethead from Cleveland of all places end up being so God damn cool winking smiley

Oh, and as a matter of principle, every single reply or quote or whatever that I think you may even have a small chance of reading, I'm going to do this on from now on until you actually do:

PLAY A GOD DAMN SHOW IN VANCOUVER B.C.

Seriously man, did we piss you off or something? 2 tours in a row you skipped us. And it's not like we're a small city either. Victoria does not count. That's a 2 hour ferry ride and an overnight stay. Pemberton does not count. That's a 3 hour car trip in ludicrous traffic over a dangerous stretch of 2 lane mountain highway and an overnight camp. Sasquatch does not count. That's a fucking trip across the border, getting ass raped by U.S. Customs, a 3 hour drive to Seattle, dealing with the ungodly HELL that is Seattle's freeway system, a drive through Snoqualmie Pass (as fucking cool as stopping for lunch at the Double R Diner for some damn fine cherry pie and a cup of black, piping hot coffee is), and an overnight camp. Granted the gorge is an awesome venue, but it's a bitch to get to from here.

I mean I love you man, and the trips are fun, and I know geographically Vancouver is hard to fit into a tour, but come ON. For once can you PLEASE just play a show I can just walk down the street to, especially if this is gonna be the last tour for awhile?

;-)



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/04/2009 12:08AM by Archie_Crisis.

 

05/04/09 12:09 AM

Archie_Crisis posted:
trent_reznor posted:
If Apple doesn't get it together, we will most certainly make it available to the jailbreak community.

Fuck sake man, how did some old school rivethead from Cleveland of all places end up being so God damn cool winking smiley

Oh, and as a matter of principle, every single reply or quote or whatever that I think you may even have a small chance of reading, I'm going to do this on from now on until you actually do:

PLAY A GOD DAMN SHOW IN VANCOUVER B.C.

Seriously man, did we piss you off or something? 2 tours in a row you skipped us. And it's not like we're a small city either. Victoria does not count. That's a 2 hour ferry ride and an overnight stay. Pemberton does not count. That's a 3 hour car trip in ludicrous traffic over a dangerous stretch of 2 lane mountain highway and an overnight camp. Sasquatch does not count. That's a fucking trip across the border, getting ass raped by U.S. Customs, a 3 hour drive to Seattle, dealing with the ungodly HELL that is Seattle's freeway system, a drive through Snoqualmie Pass (as fucking cool as stopping for lunch at the Double R Diner for some damn fine cherry pie and a cup of black, piping hot coffee is), and an overnight camp. Granted the gorge is an awesome venue, but it's a bitch to get to from here.

I mean I love you man, and the trips are fun, and I know geographically Vancouver is hard to fit into a tour, but come ON. For once can you PLEASE just play a show I can just walk down the street to, especially if this is gonna be the last tour for awhile?

;-)

At least you guys didn't give him "The Saskatoon Blues". This fucking city can sell out Keith fucking Urban or Simple Plan but not a GOOD band? Fuck. I'll probably never see NIN again. Glad I caught them at least once!

 

05/04/09 12:09 AM

MojoFilter posted:
batman_sandwich posted:
Well now I'M upset about the Axl Rose diss!

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee242/MojoFilter99/Stupid%20Stuff/tampon.gif
Where's the 'How to tell when someone's joking' gif?

 

05/04/09 12:20 AM

scott_pawsey posted:
DanielMcNinja posted:
So Trent vents some frustration at Apple, and all of a sudden 90% of the NIN community has always hated Apple and their products. Just reading over the responses in this thread really demonstrates why (i think) Trent posts so rarely here - people seem incapable of thinking for themselves.

There have already been calls to spam apple customer service, as well as a facebook group devoted to hating apple for this 'outrage'.

I obviously can't speak on behalf of Trent, but i have to say all the sudden knee-jerk reactions to everything he says, which seem to define a large chunk of the community here, cant be doing him nor NIN.com any favours.
Yeah I find that a bit funny too. I've been using the same iMac since 2004, I love Apple products. But I'm not going to change my entire opinion based on something somebody else said. My theory is that since people know Trent may possibly be reading the thread, they just try to look as good as possible for him. However, they go into extremes which just results in hilarity, arguments and sometimes creepiness. People need to realize that Trent most likely doesn't care if they share his exact views or not lol.

The sheer obviousness of some of it is what kills me. Heck, just one post up from yours. Jesus.

Trent says: "My car insurance quote was unreasonable today, so i saved money with Geico".
NIN.com: "Yeah, you tell 'em TRENT! Nice going! I too would love to save money with Geico! Great job!"

Verbal garbage.

 

05/04/09 12:24 AM

dolemite posted:
JaneNY posted:
dolemite posted:
As I said in the first page of this thread.

1. Remove the song, the "objectionable content" from the podcast.
2. Resubmit the app.
3. Get app approval, now that the objectionable content is gone.
4. Re-post the original podcast, which contains the objectional content.
5. Give the app store approval process the finger.

That would definitely be the pragmatic way. Would he do it? It might give the appearance of capitulating though the desired result is achieved. I like much of Apple's stuff but they deserve to have a bit of a shitstorm over their inconsistent standards of approval of apps. If the above way was done, Apple's bad PR quietly goes away prematurely IMO.

I wouldn't really see it as capitulating. Apple's system does not work, so I'd just "work the system," get my app approved, and be done with it. If they can't come up with a practical, reasonable set of standards, then that's the treatment they're asking for. In fact, I'd probably "work the system" like that in order to set a precedent for other developers trying to find ways around the ridiculous approvement process. "Working" it like that and posting the "offensive" content back on the podcast would only work to show how utterly ridiculous the process is anyway.

At least, that's my two cents.

= BillBailey posted:
Nirvana never changed words to their albums for wal mart--they only changed the title for rape me and the back cover artwork for in utero and that was Cobain's call


excerpt from the book Kurt Cobain's Last Days Detailed by Manager Danny Goldberg

When 'In Utero' was about to come out, Geffen heard that Wal-Mart would not carry the album unless a different album cover was chosen, because the original included pictures of fetuses. Kurt had designed the artwork, and I assumed he would resist any pressure to change it.

I reassured Kurt that the band was coming off a number-one album and that he could hold firm. Nirvana fans, I assured him, would find the album elsewhere. Kurt calmly but firmly interrupted me and said in his earnest slacker monotone, "Of course I want our records in Wal-Mart. When I was a kid, the only place near where we lived to buy records was a Wal-Mart. One of the reasons I make records is for kids like me." He had no problem creating an alternative cover in order to reach Wal-Mart shoppers.

Thanks, Nirvana were my favorite band growing up, and I was hoping someone would reference something like that. I understand Trent's reference to Nirvana though. Nirvana were/are the media "legends" of the 90's (a title which I think they deserve) and the standard by which many things are measured. --Anyway, thanks for the Nirvana quote clarifying Kurt's reasoning about Wal-Mart.

trent_reznor posted:
Everyone - let me be clear. I love Apple products and as goofy and out-of-touch as their app approval process / policy is, I will still use them because they work 1000X better than the competition. This is not a debate, it's a fact. The iPhone is THE most elegant, modern smartphone at this point in time and it's perfect for what we want to do with the NIN app - except for the ludicrous approval process, and that's what I want to draw attention to.
Android is cool, but nobody has an Android phone. Blackberry is OK but the hardware is inconsistent and WinMo straight-up sucks balls. If Apple doesn't get it together, we will most certainly make it available to the jailbreak community. I didn't invest in this app to see it languish on the sidelines from an idiotic policy while this tour is in full swing.

Thanks for update and additional info.

You know, I'm not just saying this as a hardcore NIN fan, because I'm just as much of a hardcore Nirvana fan, but I think Trent/NIN was just as much of a true icon of the 90s as Kurt/Nirvana. I don't think "industrial" "goth" "rivethead" etc would be household terms if it wasn't for Trent/NIN. As corny as this sounds, I also don't think Hot Topic would exist if it wasn't for Trent. Sorry Trent if you read this, but it's true man. You have to take some responsibility for that abomination.

I also think it's kind of funny, and actually rivethead to the core, that Trent sometimes shys away from terming his music "industrial". For fuck sake man, you were working with Al Jourgensen, Genesis P. Orridge, and Pigface in the fucking 80s!!! YOU OPENED FOR SKINNY PUPPY FOR CHRIST SAKE. You made electronic music in the days were having just a digital OSCILLATOR on a synthesizer was high end, and remixing a song meant hours upon hours of meticulously splicing tape reels by hand. You made some of the most vicious, electronicly based, dissonenet music to ever make it to the top 10 charts. YOU DON'T GET MORE INDUSTRIAL THAN THAT.

 

05/04/09 12:41 AM

trent_reznor posted:
BillBailey posted:
I think it was a Cobain diss..I do not think it had anything to do with because T thinks Nirvana is influential and was making a point..I think it was more along the lines of well everyone thinks Nirvana and Kurt were so anti-establishment and yet they sold out for wal mart....Cobain wrote "serve the servants" and "negative creep"...he is cemented in rock lore for eternity..right next to jim morrison and eddie money

Shut the fuck up about the Nirvana diss. You have fucking Axl Rose as your profile pic. Enough said.

Man, you know what the funny thing is about Axl? Every GNR record you listen to, you can tell where the talent is coming from. As he starts losing core members, it just gets worse and worse. Now I've never met the guy, but from what I hear he's a total dick. And after what he did to Vancouver (look up guns n roses riot and you'll see what I mean) this city certainly has little love for him. But GNR, in the early days, the appetite for destruction days, man they fucking rocked. And I know a lot of people are going to shoot me down here, but hear me out. And I'm also going to really date myself here.

You're 6 years old, living in Anchorage Alaska. The most hardcore song you've ever heard in your life so far is "blasphemous rumours" by depeche mode, and your parents change the radio station whenever it comes on because it "sets a bad moral example". You're at a local hockey game. The players come on the ice. You hear fucking "Welcome to the Jungle" for the first time. At 6 years old. Your parents can't do shit because it's not like they can turn off the arena P.A. and they don't want to deal with a whining kid if they take them out right when the puck drops. So here you are, at an incredibly impressionable age, hearing this song. That moment is forever cemented in my memory. That sense of right up in your fucking face, balls out, don't give a shit attitude is what I associate with rock music.

Unfortunately it is also what apparently makes Axl Rose an unbelievable dick. I hear Slash and Matt Sorum are pretty rad guys though.

Oh and since this is a Trent reply: PLAY A SHOW IN VANCOUVER B.C.



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05/04/09 12:46 AM

andtracee posted:
magnumchaos posted:
Trent, I couldn't agree more. Apple and Wal-Mart and such stores have become morally ambiguous and hypocritical to a melting point. Do they not even have a clue as to the number of sales they have lost because of their poor "moral and upstanding" standards and policies?

Sadly, so true. It's also what is preventing me from GIVING them 700+ dollars for an iPhone. For that kind of cash, they need to unlock it for me so I can use it with my international carrier when I am living abroad. Instead I am told I cannot use the iPhone outside of AT&T....which means they are loosing my app cash, my itunes cash & my original investment of 700 dollars because they can't fathom how to work around the fact that AT&T is not international.

RAWR. That may not be concise in it's explanation, but I just got through arguing with AT&T so, my brain is not well.

Apple needs to unlock the entire application process. Trent should be able to sell -his- application without ANYONE's fucking approval, regardless of using the iCantSayFuck SDK. Sales are dropping for iPhones. Apple is trying to make a deal with Verizon so they can keep milking the cash cow.

Do you think if they opened up the backend and quit trying to sniff both sides of the dollar, more apps would be available and more people would buy the iPhones -BeCause- more apps would be available?

iPhone/iPod/iTouch users shouldn't have to go thru i-fuckup-your-computer-resources-tunes to get AnYThiNg! Any portal of ecommerce should be able to hock the product... Apple tried to stop a menu service because 'it looked like an iPhone menu' but runs on any phone. They failed.
Damn... you got me started.

 

05/04/09 12:47 AM

Amen Trent. This is bullshit.

 

05/04/09 12:47 AM

I just signed up to stand up with you like everyone else! The iphone ' approval process' is the same as the government deciding who to bailout! Apple says: "we just spin the wheel and do what it spits out" [bit.ly] Fucking hypocrites! Ugg i'm so mad! We gotta give em hell to make some changes or they're going to stifle innovation and creativity and all we're going to be left with is shitty fart apps on the app store! Its unbelievable how a company that stands behind a motto "Think Different" can actually be so blind to reality to say that app content = user content! Fuck you Apple... trent you're not in this alone! All the awesome devs are with you smiling smiley Keep fighting till u get a head to roll smiling smiley

 

05/04/09 12:55 AM

trent_reznor posted:
BillBailey posted:
I think it was a Cobain diss..I do not think it had anything to do with because T thinks Nirvana is influential and was making a point..I think it was more along the lines of well everyone thinks Nirvana and Kurt were so anti-establishment and yet they sold out for wal mart....Cobain wrote "serve the servants" and "negative creep"...he is cemented in rock lore for eternity..right next to jim morrison and eddie money

Shut the fuck up about the Nirvana diss. You have fucking Axl Rose as your profile pic. Enough said.

Ok I've been random tangenting all over this thread, however:

You know, I'd actually be really interested to know what your real thoughts are on Kurt and Nirvana. It seems pretty obvious (and maybe I'm reading too much into the Starfuckers video) that there was/maybe still is some sort of thing with you and Courtney, but that seems to be the case for pretty much any "alternative" artist from the 90s.

So clear the air here man. Nirvana. Kurt. Love em, hate em, indifferent, why?

I honestly could care less about the diss, I'm more interested to know what you actually think on that particular band, especially as they are generally viewed as THE quintessential 90s band. You certainly seem passionate about bands, and come across as an either love em or hate em guy.

P.S. play a vancouver b.c. show

*edit - yes I am aware this particular thread is probably not the best place for this particular question, but since the whole thing IS technically going on in this thread I figured it would have the best chance of response if I posted here. Mods can feel free to move or delete, no harm no foul.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/04/2009 01:16AM by Archie_Crisis.

 

05/04/09 12:57 AM

international users are so very much waiting for the app to be fixed

 

05/04/09 1:08 AM

BillBailey posted:
Trent in all seriousness---if you hate Axl so much (which I agree with) WHY OPEN UP FOR HIM in 1991 in Europe for a few shows???? I mean at least Kurt openly REJECTED the offer to play with GNR...And when Faith No More opened for them, at least Mike Patton would talk shit about Axl ON STAGE...So why open up for someone you do not respect????

... wtf.....

dude...

are you SERIOUSLY getting into a flame war with Trent?!

On NIN.COM?

What is WRONG with you?

That's like going into a man's house and pissing on his carpet.

tongue sticking out smiley



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/04/2009 01:26AM by Archie_Crisis.

 

05/04/09 1:22 AM

BillBailey posted:
Trent in all seriousness---if you hate Axl so much (which I agree with) WHY OPEN UP FOR HIM in 1991 in Europe for a few shows???? I mean at least Kurt openly REJECTED the offer to play with GNR...And when Faith No More opened for them, at least Mike Patton would talk shit about Axl ON STAGE...So why open up for someone you do not respect????

Money.

Duh.

Not meaning this in a disrespectful way to Trent, but everyone needs money when they're just starting out. You tend to be less picky about with whom you play when you're a broke, up-and-coming artist.

Given how temperamental Axl is, the chances him of kicking a band off the tour for talking shit about him (even offstage) is incredibly likely. Thus the reason Trent probably didn't say anything.

Also if you remember correctly; Axl was the one who had a boner for Trent, not the other way around.

A boner so huge in fact, that just he had to steal the best guitarist Trent's ever had for a well over a decade. All just to help him make a shit album that can't even sell at Best Buy.

tl;dr-
Axl Rose is (lame/a washed up hack).

(Note: Having been all of two years old in 1991 and having absolutely no personal affiliation with Mr. Reznor, the historical musings in this post may be wildly untrue/completely made up.)

(Second Note: Axl Rose still blows.)



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/04/2009 01:27AM by themanintheyellowhat.

 

05/04/09 1:26 AM

trent_reznor posted:
BillBailey posted:
I think it was a Cobain diss..I do not think it had anything to do with because T thinks Nirvana is influential and was making a point..I think it was more along the lines of well everyone thinks Nirvana and Kurt were so anti-establishment and yet they sold out for wal mart....Cobain wrote "serve the servants" and "negative creep"...he is cemented in rock lore for eternity..right next to jim morrison and eddie money

Shut the fuck up about the Nirvana diss. You have fucking Axl Rose as your profile pic. Enough said.

Bahaha! I was waiting for that. the finger smiley

 

05/04/09 2:40 AM

im curious when someone whining from apple will show up in this thread (or they're already and i missed it?!)

its kinda trendy these days for devs/manufacturers to monitor nin.com messages.

 

05/04/09 1:46 AM

Fucking hypocrites! I can't stand this "right to censor" shit. Uptight assholes making decisions for the rest of us. If Apple feel the need to censor apps, then they should be smart enough to make a rating system like the did for iTunes. It is smart and makes mostly everyone happy.

 

05/04/09 1:47 AM

Hey, let's not disavow all Rose icons. :[


Xvostya posted:
im curious when someone whining from apple will show up in this thread (or they're already and i missed it?!)

its kinda trendy these days for devs/manufacturers to monitor nin.com messages.

Hope Reznorse doesn't receive a SERVICE TERMINATED message tomorrow.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/04/2009 01:48AM by softcore.

 

05/04/09 1:57 AM

Man this is sad to hear.
Apple showing its true "Sucking of Satin's cock" face on this one.
By the way, Don't blow off Android my friend, this will be the future of smart phones. And Apple pulling this kind of stunts will only make it happen faster. Your App on the Android Market WILL sell G1s

Good Day

 

05/04/09 2:13 AM

"are you SERIOUSLY getting into a flame war with Trent?! On NIN.COM?What is WRONG with you?
That's like going into a man's house and pissing on his carpet."

Good looking out Archie _ Crisis! The fucking nerve of the guy trying to call out Trent on his turf. What a douche!

 

05/04/09 2:15 AM

softcore posted:
Hey, let's not disavow all Rose icons. :[


Xvostya posted:
im curious when someone whining from apple will show up in this thread (or they're already and i missed it?!)

its kinda trendy these days for devs/manufacturers to monitor nin.com messages.

Hope Reznorse doesn't receive a SERVICE TERMINATED message tomorrow.

You ever watch the X-Files? Remember how the syndicate couldn't take out Mulder because doing so would turn him into a martyr?

Same principle here. Apple is actually going to have to play this one VERY carefully.

 

05/04/09 2:21 AM

DanielMcNinja posted:
So Trent vents some frustration at Apple, and all of a sudden 90% of the NIN community has always hated Apple and their products. Just reading over the responses in this thread really demonstrates why (i think) Trent posts so rarely here - people seem incapable of thinking for themselves.

There have already been calls to spam apple customer service, as well as a facebook group devoted to hating apple for this 'outrage'.

I obviously can't speak on behalf of Trent, but i have to say all the sudden knee-jerk reactions to everything he says, which seem to define a large chunk of the community here, cant be doing him nor NIN.com any favours.

God, I so agree. I can't read half of these anymore. Again with the Trent god like complex..... seriously.

I still love my itouch, but still think it is messed up, and that apple needs to do its homework before turning down the new app update. But I'm not going to "burn" it either so funny.

 

05/04/09 2:27 AM

Archie_Crisis posted:
trent_reznor posted:
If Apple doesn't get it together, we will most certainly make it available to the jailbreak community.

Fuck sake man, how did some old school rivethead from Cleveland of all places end up being so God damn cool winking smiley

Oh, and as a matter of principle, every single reply or quote or whatever that I think you may even have a small chance of reading, I'm going to do this on from now on until you actually do:

PLAY A GOD DAMN SHOW IN VANCOUVER B.C.

Seriously man, did we piss you off or something? 2 tours in a row you skipped us. And it's not like we're a small city either. Victoria does not count. That's a 2 hour ferry ride and an overnight stay. Pemberton does not count. That's a 3 hour car trip in ludicrous traffic over a dangerous stretch of 2 lane mountain highway and an overnight camp. Sasquatch does not count. That's a fucking trip across the border, getting ass raped by U.S. Customs, a 3 hour drive to Seattle, dealing with the ungodly HELL that is Seattle's freeway system, a drive through Snoqualmie Pass (as fucking cool as stopping for lunch at the Double R Diner for some damn fine cherry pie and a cup of black, piping hot coffee is), and an overnight camp. Granted the gorge is an awesome venue, but it's a bitch to get to from here.

I mean I love you man, and the trips are fun, and I know geographically Vancouver is hard to fit into a tour, but come ON. For once can you PLEASE just play a show I can just walk down the street to, especially if this is gonna be the last tour for awhile?

;-)

For starters he's from PA lol But I'm from Ohio...30 minutes from Cleveland when you have nothing to do, you become creative lol

 

05/04/09 2:28 AM

With all said & done, if Apple ever gets around to letting me buy an iPhone (contract issues & locked to one network problems galore), I think they are great phones.

However, the approval process they put apps through is rather skewed & hopefully the fervour created by this thread will shed enough light that the issue can be solved. Otherwise, all Apple is doing is unintentionally promoting jailbreaking when many of us, prior to this fuck up, had no reason to jailbreak or any other sketchy thing with out iPhones (those that have them).

I think fro ma stand point of software & the marketing or rather the contractual obligations & TOS they have set up, are slowly dooming them to fail, or at the very least, lose a chunk of consumer power that has helped them garner a profit gain in an economy where many brands & business are taking a profit loss.

 

05/04/09 2:43 AM

I am a big fan of apple an all, but even I am beside myself on this one. I would just assume not jailbreak my iPod if I can help it.

 

05/04/09 2:50 AM

posted:
Are you people so desperate to swing from Trents ballsack 24/7 that you'll disown an entire multinational corporation at the blink of an eye purely because they didn't approve this?

People are understandably irritated, and have expressed as such, some in more colorful, hyperbolic language than others. But I think NIN fans are a little too gay for Mac as a whole to disown Apple, so you, sir, can fucking relax.

And I will gladly swing from Trent's ballsack twenty four hours a day, seven days a week.



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05/04/09 2:58 AM

trent_reznor posted:
I just saw two guys having explicit anal sex right there in Safari! On my iPhone!

o_O

 
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