NIN iPhone app rejection
 
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05/04/09 7:41 AM

http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/04/trent-reznor-rips-apple-summarizes-current-smartphone-oses/#continued

Already being dugg and those columns appear to come out mighty fast....

 

05/04/09 7:48 AM

Did Apple use Music Is My Hot Hot Sex by CSS in their own commercials? Ever read the lyrics to that song?
Music Is My Hot Hot Sex Lyrics
I think Apple does a fine job marketing some pretty sleek stuff and building their own community, but hypocrisy rooted in censorship is inexcusable. Just change your approval policy, Apple, and continue to be the cool company you are.

 

05/04/09 8:00 AM

baby shaker

Just in case any of you missed this. It took them a bit to yank it from the app store.

Very broken,this app approval process.
Let's see if TR can fix it!

 

05/04/09 8:09 AM

GarethNelson posted:
andtracee posted:
So I guess I am just eager to swing from his frontal lobe?

I suppose we all do that every time we listen to the guy's music - or is it just me that sits listening and trying to figure out the effects chain?

I'd love to romance TR's frontal lobe! Actually, the frontal lobe of anyone intelligent and artistic would do just fine. Anyone, Anyone?

 

05/04/09 8:24 AM

First I only use land line phones, So I have no clue what this app is. I understand that Trent you want to get your music to fans, but if their policies are horrible...Than they are not the best. Anyway good luck to all of you who love or hate Iphone. Personally I hate the look of anything Apple, the design of their products remind me of those hanging eggs chairs people used to love to sit in, except smashed.- cheers star wars people!

 

05/04/09 8:28 AM

Both Microsoft and Apple are combined of a bunch of propagating arrogant assholes who push outdated material for profit. We don't see them pushing anything towards Open Source even though they're in the top for profit margins.

 

05/04/09 8:36 AM

Well, be fair. Apple only wants quality applications available for download.

Time for me to go shake a baby to death on my iPhone ...

Trent, maybe if you added some fart buttons to the app it would pass. Or maybe even a gun app so we can pretend we are killing one another, this seems more "popular"

I don't know what to say other than this is a damn shame and the lack of explanation can drive a man mad. Apple should be on your side, I'm sure NIN is responsible for 100's of iPhone sales. I'll admit I only bought one because you said it was so damn cool. I gave up my Black Berry.

Also ... I tend to avoid apps now a days ... but ACCESS is damn cool and fun. Maybe you should release Ghosts V as an app. Don't be afraid to log onto nearby and say hello.


This message was sent using my iPhone over the NIN ACCESS NETWORK - Now that's cool.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 05/04/2009 08:57AM by snaapz.

 

05/04/09 8:52 AM

see, this is why there should be an app for android. screw apple.

 

05/04/09 9:03 AM

snaapz posted:
Well, be fair. Apple only wants quality applications available for download.

Time for me to go shake a baby to death on my iPhone ...

Trent, maybe if you added some fart buttons to the app it would pass. Or maybe even a gun app so we can pretend we are killing one another, this seems more "popular"

I don't know what to say other than this is a damn shame and the lack of explanation can drive a man mad. Apple should be on your side, I'm sure NIN is responsible for 100's of iPhone sales. I'll admit I only bought one because you said it was so damn cool. I gave up my Black Berry.

Also ... I tend to avoid apps now a days ... but ACCESS is damn cool and fun. Maybe you should release Ghosts V as an app. Don't be afraid to log onto nearby and say hello.


This message was sent using my iPhone over the NIN ACCESS NETWORK - Now that's cool.

To be fair, Apple shouldn't be saying "after we've sold this hardware to you we still get to control what you do with it". It's fine for them to put whatever content policies they want on their own store, even if those policies are completely nuts, it's not so fine to say "you can only use our app store and no others".

Yay for monopoly abuse!

 

05/04/09 9:17 AM

You know what, the whole "I hate Apple, but I loved them a week ago" stuff is annoying, but it isn't nearly as bad as the "Look who's hanging off TRs nutsack" crap. A lot of the people have no real experience with Apple's approval process, and have just now seen the dark side. They can change their opinion, maybe because it's only Trent who has given them any insight on to what actually happens. This kind of denial isn't that rare. There was a craigslist app that got denied because it showed the images from the listings. They had no control over that, yet to make it acceptable, they had to disable image viewing. This took all the pictures off all the listings, explicit or not. The real irony of this is you could click on the listing in the app to open it in Safari. Then you could see whatever you wanted, in an Apple designed and installed package. Try sending Apple a complaint/denial letter because "Safari allows me to view adult content and I wish to have it removed from my system." I have yet to get a reply.

I still like Apple, just as much as I did before this happened. I also still hate their approval process and their stupid guidelines, but I'm still going to use it. It was really intended to keep malicious programming off the iPhone (hence, the AppKillSwitch built into each OS). Can you imagine having to run a firewall and a virus scan on a system this slow and bogged down? It would be unusable. They just expanded it to cover possibly objectionable content. You would be amazed by how many people think Apple makes every single app in the appstore. They are also the ones hosting and distributing it, so they do have a right to choose what they want and what they don't. If apple likes it or not, there are ways to distribute an app without having to deal with them. Repositories may be a lot more open about what they allow, but I have my doubts that even they would allow an app that "collects stored e-mail accounts and passwords, sends them to a server and then uses bonjour to seek other iDevices on the network to pass along the program."

This is nothing more than just a small bump in the road and possibly even a mistake made by whoever reviewed the app and thought TDS content was embedded. For all we know, they could resubmit the app and it get approved without having to do anything. It was probably something stupid like the reviewer was playing with random things and just happened to stream "big man with a gun" instead of "hurt" or something like that.

 

05/04/09 9:18 AM

1. For the people complaining about apple, do you actually USE apple products, or are you just ballsucking Trent like good little fanboys and fangirls???

2. I am still awaiting the Ministry iphone

3. To the guy who said NIN toured with GNR "for money" because they were "just starting up"---Umm dude it was summer 1991, NIN had just done lollapalooza, they were already getting some serious bank

4. and for the record Faith No More did get kicked off the GNR tour for talking shit--then Axl let them back on after they apologized--then they talked more shit and left the tour on their own accord--THANK GOD THEY REUNITED

5. Kurt Cobain is a visionary--our generation's Jim Morrison. Fucking wal mart has nothing to do with the Nirvana legacy. Fucking Ice Cube has released "censored" versions of his albums..THAT is what should be brought up in this debate about conforming to wal mart

 

05/04/09 9:19 AM

Vamsmack posted:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/04/trent-reznor-rips-apple-summarizes-current-smartphone-oses/#continued

Already being dugg and those columns appear to come out mighty fast....

That's the great thing about the internet technocrats. No one blogs faster. Something like this is gonna spread fast.

Look d00ds

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/9894/microsoftfail.jpg


Diss the wonky app approval system. Don't diss Apple.

 

05/04/09 9:19 AM

NINja posted:
trent_reznor posted:
BillBailey posted:
I think it was a Cobain diss..I do not think it had anything to do with because T thinks Nirvana is influential and was making a point..I think it was more along the lines of well everyone thinks Nirvana and Kurt were so anti-establishment and yet they sold out for wal mart....Cobain wrote "serve the servants" and "negative creep"...he is cemented in rock lore for eternity..right next to jim morrison and eddie money

Shut the fuck up about the Nirvana diss. You have fucking Axl Rose as your profile pic. Enough said.

You tell him, Trent! The number of times I've argued with that kid through myspace.. uhg... he deserved that. haha

Dont listen to her, she hates the song big man with a gun....case closed hahaha

 

05/04/09 9:22 AM

Something went wrong and my edit did not edit.

Please ignore this post. sorry.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/04/2009 09:22AM by rkturbo7.

 

05/04/09 9:32 AM

MojoFilter posted:
I'm having a team of out of work Russian developers start work on my new app tomorrow.

The working project title will be "Scat-terrific!"

The idea will be that those who are engaged in any sort of sex involving excrement will be able to network real-time, post videos and pictures, and share methods of overcoming Hep C. All while never missing a phone call from the kids.

The folks who denied Mr. Reznor's app simply need a new frame of reference for obscenity.

Consider the niche filled.

Now we're thinking clearly. This guy's got the right idea -- see, he shifts the focus from the NIN app and entertains us at the same time winking smiley

 

05/04/09 9:59 AM

BillBailey posted:
NINja posted:
trent_reznor posted:
BillBailey posted:
I think it was a Cobain diss..I do not think it had anything to do with because T thinks Nirvana is influential and was making a point..I think it was more along the lines of well everyone thinks Nirvana and Kurt were so anti-establishment and yet they sold out for wal mart....Cobain wrote "serve the servants" and "negative creep"...he is cemented in rock lore for eternity..right next to jim morrison and eddie money

Shut the fuck up about the Nirvana diss. You have fucking Axl Rose as your profile pic. Enough said.

You tell him, Trent! The number of times I've argued with that kid through myspace.. uhg... he deserved that. haha

Dont listen to her, she hates the song big man with a gun....case closed hahaha

So if someone does not like "big man with a gun" they are a moron? Its a choice of song preference

 

05/04/09 10:59 AM

trent_reznor posted:
Shut the fuck up about the Nirvana diss. You have fucking Axl Rose as your profile pic. Enough said.

Awesome.

 

05/04/09 10:59 AM

Am I the only person around here who's heard of Symbian?

From InformationWeek
posted:
Smartphones have become a larger and larger chunk of the overall wireless landscape. According to Canalys, 39.9 million smartphones were shipped around the world in the third quarter, representing a 28% surge. That number means smartphones make up about 13% of all handset sales.

Of the 39.9 million, Apple sold 6.9 million, giving it a 17.3% share of the smartphone market. Even though Apple sold more smartphones than RIM, RIM was no slacker. It sold 6.1 million BlackBerry smartphones, giving it 15.3% of the market. Windows Mobile attained 13.5% of the market, while Symbian reached a commanding 46.6% of the smartphone market.

 

05/04/09 11:01 AM

Trent, the other thing you could do is have the app ported to Android. It is open and an approval process does not exist. Also, it opens up the application to more phones. I am not an apple fan, they make OK hardware and like to charge a premium for it, but I am a Linux head. Open source is where you need to move to, i know that the G1 is not the optimal phone, but it is getting close to not being alone. I know you want the huge amount of users for the iPhone, but looks like this is also going to be a recurring issue as you add more and more of your content which can be deemed as "offensive" to people from time to time. Good luck with fighting the good fit.
-phuc

 

05/04/09 10:10 AM

Anyone else think this might be what happens when someone who is not Steve Jobs is in charge of organizing shit that goes on at Apple?

Steve, come back soon. We miss you. sad smiley

 

05/04/09 10:13 AM

phuc_head posted:
Trent, the other thing you could do is have the app ported to Android. It is open and an approval process does not exist. Also, it opens up the application to more phones. I am not an apple fan, they make OK hardware and like to charge a premium for it, but I am a Linux head. Open source is where you need to move to, i know that the G1 is not the optimal phone, but it is getting close to not being alone. I know you want the huge amount of users for the iPhone, but looks like this is also going to be a recurring issue as you add more and more of your content which can be deemed as "offensive" to people from time to time. Good luck with fighting the good fit.
-phuc

Ok, seriously - who else codes here?

Let's get a-porting to android

 

05/04/09 10:15 AM

I still have no iPhone. I know...I sux. Oh well.

 

05/04/09 10:19 AM

I am just posting in hopes that trent will put this app on android

 

05/04/09 10:20 AM

Me either, but I do want one. Just waiting for the elusive rumored 32G version...

This thread is made of win, BTW. It's very entertaining.

 

05/04/09 10:23 AM

LostinBubbles posted:
I still have no iPhone. I know...I sux. Oh well.


I'll get an iphone when they stop being AT&T and start being Verizon. Also, my when my current ipod breaks.



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05/04/09 10:30 AM

trent_reznor posted:
BillBailey posted:
I think it was a Cobain diss..I do not think it had anything to do with because T thinks Nirvana is influential and was making a point..I think it was more along the lines of well everyone thinks Nirvana and Kurt were so anti-establishment and yet they sold out for wal mart....Cobain wrote "serve the servants" and "negative creep"...he is cemented in rock lore for eternity..right next to jim morrison and eddie money

Shut the fuck up about the Nirvana diss. You have fucking Axl Rose as your profile pic. Enough said.
Actually, Cobain said he changed the name of 'Rape Me' on the back side of the cover because 'when I was young, I could only shop in Wal-mart'. Just sayin'.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/04/2009 10:31AM by daalbarizer.

 

05/04/09 11:30 AM

Ugh--I'm big Apple fan... been one since my 1991 Mac never crashed and my Windows 96 always did. But, man, I've been disappointed lately with the assholery that's been dominating Apple's actions. Trying to accomplish anything with Apple is like ordering a medium-sized coffee at a NYC Starbuck's.
I don't own an iPhone--I have a big and long-standing vendetta against AT&T--but damn if this app doesn't tempt me to buy one. ...And maybe Apple should realize that potential and stop being dicks about The Downward Spiral. Seriously? One lousy swear?
Shouldn't they really be censoring out all references to Steve Jobs since he's a giant dick right now?

 

05/04/09 10:31 AM

Look, it's a two way thing - having the NIN app on the App Store and the media hype that preceded it's release couldn't have been anything but good for the band and even this hiccup (and seriously, that's all it is) is generating a shitload of publicity - either way NIN wins! In my mind Twitter and the App Store are about to become the two most important marketing tools for bands in the next few years and the bottom line is that the industry bigwigs are shitting themselves because they don't have a clue what's going on especially the old fashioned marketing dinosaurs that work in these places.

 

05/04/09 10:44 AM

daalbarizer posted:
Actually, Cobain said he changed the name of 'Rape Me' on the back side of the cover because 'when I was young, I could only shop in Wal-mart'.

He also changed the front cover of In Utero.

I don't think it was a Nirvana diss: just evidence of the fact that musicians always have to jump through these hoops, and most (even massive, and massively legit ones like Nirvana) bands do. Wal-mart was the only place Kurt could go to get music when he was a kid. Alberdeen didn't have a record store.

It's funny: these kinds of restrictions seem unique to musicians. You can buy "Natural Born Killers" or "The Godfather" or "Scarface" or "Basic Instinct" or any other number of movies there that depict graphic sex, gruesome violence, and even (le gasp!) bad language.

You can say the word "fuck" on camera, and Wal-Mart will not have a problem, but sing it and you're a pariah.

 

05/04/09 10:50 AM

persimmon posted:
Trying to accomplish anything with Apple is like ordering a medium-sized coffee at a NYC Starbuck's.

Again, I think we are sorely missing Steve Jobs. He needs to get off his vacation and come back, pronto.

Don't like not knowing how serious his health scare is.

 
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