READ THIS regarding advertisements on nin.com

READ THIS regarding advertisements on nin.com

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05/15/09 11:57 AM
francesca member Joined: 11/28/07 Location: Belgium Posts: 253	Do your best ! I have no solutions, but... -viagra and porn : NO -botox : YES
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05/15/09 11:08 AM
JuanluCc member Mastermind Joined: 03/22/08 Location: Caceres Spain Posts: 234	As said before I think that tv and mag advertising wins by a landslide against internet ads. Advertising should be helpful, informative, appealing and/or entertaining at its very least and let's face it, it is not as of yet on web sites because it is not quite creative. Most campaigns on the net are based on broader, more conventional ones.But give it some room to breathe and grow, it's still on baby stages: there's some really creative stuff out there. I find quite interesting that some of you don't mind to see "saving the rainforest" or "animal rescue" ads, and that's really cool, but surely you've got some more down-to-earth needs too. We're not in N Korea and here we have brands and stuff that you may find interesting to BUY or at least receive some info about, don't you? I presume users have the criteria to avoid buying AA clothes if they don't like 'em (how comes?) and to know that the fact that something pops up here doesn't necessarily mean any endorsement by NIN or Trent Reznor himself, right? I'm just guessing here. And I know, clicking on shiny things is hard to avoid. But come on, we're not 4yo. Physically I mean. Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 05/15/2009 11:29AM by JuanluCc.
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05/15/09 11:51 AM
Mistic_Morgue member Prevent Animal Cruelty Joined: 11/27/07 Location: California Posts: 146	JuanluCc posted: As said before I think that tv and mag advertising wins by a landslide against internet ads. Advertising should be helpful, informative, appealing and/or entertaining at its very least and let's face it, it is not as of yet on web sites because it is not quite creative. Most campaigns on the net are based on broader, more conventional ones.But give it some room to breathe and grow, it's still on baby stages: there's some really creative stuff out there. I find quite interesting that some of you don't mind to see "saving the rainforest" or "animal rescue" ads, and that's really cool, but surely you've got some more down-to-earth needs too. We're not in N Korea and here we have brands and stuff that you may find interesting to BUY or at least receive some info about, don't you? I presume users have the criteria to avoid buying AA clothes if they don't like 'em (how comes?) and to know that the fact that something pops up here doesn't necessarily mean any endorsement by NIN or Trent Reznor himself, right? I'm just guessing here. And I know, clicking on shiny things is hard to avoid. But come on, we're not 4yo. Physically I mean. I think that was slightly offensive. I think for those 2 (because you know that was a direct shot) of us who were talking about the rain forest site was more on terms of being environmentally conscious as well as helping out the NIN site. Bottom line we have no idea what ads TR is looking at. It was helpful suggestions. I know i personally wouldn't click on any kind of TV or Mag ad or even a clothing ad to be honest. Sorry JuanluCc about the misunderstanding thank you for PMing and clearing that up Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 05/15/2009 06:14PM by Mistic_Morgue.
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05/15/09 2:35 PM
Special_Ed member The Dude Abides Joined: 11/27/07 Location: Ontario Posts: 61	It's all good, ads are no big deal....you have very high goals set and that's a lot of cash to be spending on something that's free for us fans...thanks for the very thorough explanation...although you'll still no doubt be bombarded with bitchy comments..
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05/15/09 2:50 PM
Lydia63 member "Lego" Trent is Fun! Joined: 11/26/07 Posts: 624	trent_reznor posted: Before long, you will start to see some limited advertisements on nin.com in the forums area. This is an experiment to help sustain the development of nin.com technologies into the indefinite future. I know ads suck, but after much debate and thinking it through we're willing to see how it goes and how intrusive it is to the nin.com experience. My mission is to continue developing nin.com and related mobile apps way past the point we are now and the reality of that is it costs money. Currently we're spending 10-20K / month on bandwidth / R&D outside of any specialized projects (mobile apps) and the possibility exists for the site to become self-sustaining through this process. Which means: more social / media integration and overall cool stuff for you for free moving into the future, for the price of seeing some ads. We'll play this one by ear and see how it goes and I appreciate your understanding of the situation. Trent-I'm ABSOLUTELY THRILLED to hear this, because I'd rather have advertisements than have the whole place close down, which is what I thought was going to happen when the tour would end! Thanks for clearing this up, and bring on the ads!
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05/15/09 4:39 PM
kqkitty member Joined: 12/17/08 Posts: 10	And, if you're feeling bad about having to resort to ads (which I don't think you should), you could give some free ads to non-profit companies like PETA or the National Multiple Sclerosis Society. That should assuage any guilty feelings, since you would also be doing something good for a great cause. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/15/2009 04:41PM by kqkitty.
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05/15/09 5:29 PM
Kid IRA1 member kill yr idols Joined: 09/03/08 Location: formerly some antiseptic Posts: 3,380	Reznor, you sell out. You should be paying out of your pocket for this forum. And we could use another free album while you're at it.
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05/15/09 5:55 PM
Gabriela member Not tired of fire Joined: 04/13/08 Location: Abnormaland Posts: 1,370	No problem, Pops. It´s not a big deal, we see ads everywhere anyway, and if this helps keep the site in good health, they are more than welcome. Plus, it can be useful in other ways to you guys too, seeing the response those ads bring could give you a better idea of your target audience, help your marketing vision, whatever. If we have to pay for a membership, though, just make sure is hassle free for us living outside the US, although I hear those buying through the internet systems are pretty expensive too. Send you a big hug. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/15/2009 05:58PM by Gabriela.
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05/15/09 6:05 PM
reuber1 member Joined: 04/12/08 Location: Iowa Posts: 85	Until anyone comes up with a business model outside of "GIVE AWAY EVERYTHING FOR FREE!", your options are paid subscriptions for site access or subsidized access via advertisements that you can just ignore. I'll go with the latter with no objection. Good decision; interested to see how it plays out. The only way I see it being a problem is if it turns the site into the TV sets from Idiocracy.
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05/15/09 6:52 PM
atropos9 member Joined: 03/27/09 Location: too close to the cornfiel Posts: 115	Alright, so an add or two has appeared. You know, I didn't have a problem with the idea in the first place, but this is much better than I expected it to be. Good work: Thanks.
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05/15/09 6:52 PM
khareaulyn member Joined: 11/08/08 Location: In my head Posts: 2,194	First ads here. Not too bad. Better to have a nin.com site with ads that no nin.com at all, I guess. If it's necessary, I don't mind. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/15/2009 07:10PM by khareaulyn.
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05/15/09 6:52 PM
CharmlessMan member Joined: 05/29/08 Location: Clock Town%2CTermina Posts: 15,033	FUCK YOU FOR NOT COMING BRAZIL! Wait who am I again? Oh nvm Go for it brah
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05/15/09 6:52 PM
sagpig member waxing Rens pecks Joined: 11/27/07 Location: 6 miles off the beach Posts: 152	i'm cool wit it...just don't go away ok? please...i know i'm a fuckin' idiot, but i appreciate you doing what you all are doing...very creative, very inspiring! you go get paid!!
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05/15/09 6:53 PM
Greylands member Joined: 09/25/08 Posts: 72	meh
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05/15/09 6:53 PM
juniperus member Swallowed up in fire. Joined: 03/20/09 Location: inside the kiln Posts: 1,057	Whatever it takes I'm more than happy to contribute, look at ads, donate my firstborn...
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05/15/09 6:53 PM
ScreamingSlave member Joined: 11/27/07 Location: Canada Posts: 971	Mistic_Morgue posted: I would suggest TR having a paypal account so NIN fans can donate to the site. BUT we see how well that all worked with Niggy Tardust. Only a hand full of us payed the $5. Actually TR i know you probably dont want to do this and have thought about it already. But What if the free accounts had ads and then some members can pay like $10 or however much would work to avoid seeing the ads? I know id be willing to pay for an AD free NIN.com Just food for thought I like your ideas.. when the Spiral was up, we paid a yearly fee...any thought of maybe bringing that back?
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05/15/09 6:57 PM
Calderon08 member Captain of Bearded Clam Joined: 09/07/08 Posts: 3,116	Sweet! Now I can be on nin.com and read about how my husband can enlarge his cock. It's all good. Gotta pay for things somehow.
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05/15/09 6:57 PM
adrianas_newskin member I could corrupt you... Joined: 09/04/08 Location: on yo face%21 Posts: 290	savagestar posted: Whatever keeps this place going. Some of us practically live in here... I agree with Stella... I'm seeing ads for the NIN app, NIN merch, and NINJA tour so far. Doesn't bother me.
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05/15/09 7:04 PM
atropos9 member Joined: 03/27/09 Location: too close to the cornfiel Posts: 115	Hey, dumb question: I know sometimes you can sign up for those adds that you get $.05 or something everytime someone clicks on the add. Is this one of those deals? Basically: Am I helping or hurting by clicking on stuff - how, specifically, does this generate revenue? Thanks!
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05/15/09 8:05 PM
pigvomit member HUH HUH, you said member Joined: 04/29/08 Location: Warningsville Posts: 880	this place should die like the spiral ...
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05/15/09 8:08 PM
pigvomit member HUH HUH, you said member Joined: 04/29/08 Location: Warningsville Posts: 880	just a thought but, you'd probably sell more shirts if you carried more sizes than small and extra small ...
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05/15/09 7:09 PM
nimbus member Joined: 05/04/08 Posts: 70	No problemo my man. This would only be relevant to the survival of the site. Bring on the Sybian ads! Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/15/2009 07:11PM by nimbus.
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05/15/09 8:10 PM
Coop member Gave up Joined: 11/27/07 Location: Kitchener%2C ON Posts: 49	And here are the ads!
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05/15/09 7:10 PM
b4k4n3k0 member Joined: 03/17/09 Location: SLO county CA Posts: 137	If the adds were of a similar format as the current ones, I'd be all for that if that's what it takes to get all this awesome content for free ^_^ Also, it's just the forums at this point, which I think is another good move. If there's any way to pick and choose your adds so that we don't have to see those obnoxious "1,000,000th visitor, click for prize!!!!" seizure inducing crap, that'd be super special awesome.
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05/15/09 7:11 PM
ericafleming member Joined: 04/03/09 Posts: 426	Only problem so far is that the vertical ads make a gap between the top of the page and the content of threads.
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05/15/09 7:17 PM
jhaysonn member pissinggraffiti.com Joined: 03/01/08 Location: Florida Posts: 76	I'll be honest - I just spent 30 bucks because of your ads =) I didn't see the mech section before =P
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05/15/09 7:18 PM
juniperus member Swallowed up in fire. Joined: 03/20/09 Location: inside the kiln Posts: 1,057	pigvomit posted: just a thought but, you'd probably sell more shirts if you carried more sizes than small and extra small ... pfft, you just have to be creative. I just get a shirt for each tit.
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05/15/09 7:19 PM
CharmlessMan member Joined: 05/29/08 Location: Clock Town%2CTermina Posts: 15,033	pigvomit posted: just a thought but, you'd probably sell more shirts if you carried more sizes than small and extra small ... QFT
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05/15/09 8:19 PM
Captain Molotov member Wild Card Joined: 08/17/08 Location: Cary%2C North Carolina Posts: 568	Holy shit dude, that's a lot of money. We had no idea. What the fuck?! Totally don't care about ads. They don't bother me in the least; they don't seem intrusive at all. Even if I did take issue with it, I'd get over it - whatever it takes to keep you guys operating, especially for free, I'm down for.
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05/15/09 7:19 PM
Endlessly member Predictable as fallout. Joined: 08/12/08 Location: safe in magnetic fields Posts: 906	snerk I like the little notice at the top of the page. Like everyone else is saying, I'd prefer no ads, but I'd also prefer this format to losing the site because we cost so much money.
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