SynKill posted:First up, good for you TR, after the career you have had (from a fan standpoint) I still can't help but tip my hat to the fact that you didn't let your morals slip. This is a fucking great cause, and adding your name and our names to this helps highlight all the shit that goes on in this world where even the good people you meet disappear up their own arse. .............
SynKill, very well said (your whole post, not just my short quote).
I have NO idea what exactly happened at Santa Barbara that Trent was talking about and if someone wants to PM me to fill me in, thanks!
But I can imagine.
I for one am overjoyed and proud to be able to participate in this opportunity and really have to hand it to Trent and ALL involved for this. I still have not learned how this came about? I was at the Irvine show when Trent first offered this the other day.
But I was just saying today to my girlfriend today I would have been WAY less inclined (and probably passed) if it was just a VIP offering without the cause. This is why I didnt understand the thing Josh Freeze did with his album VIP offerings....with all his VIP thousand dollar plus packages and how it MUST have been a joke. Is an artist with a good career like his really in need to invent little things like "Miniature golf with Maynard" for 10,000, and all the other expensive packages - and it just goes to Joshs pocket?!?? I hope it was a joke - Im going to assume it was and he wasnt just seeing who will pay thousands just to his pocket for a day at Disneyland with him. I mean who am I to say what he can and cant do.........
But Im not here to dis JF, but just to point out that the power of celebrity can move mountains if those people just give a fuck enough to CARE and bother to inspire others to care. So many people in that power could give a fuck or like many celebs that just do it for the PR.
I. as well, have been a fan since about 89 or 90 and of course loved all the "art" NIN has created, but always felt proud to be a fan as well because of how "real" trent has tried to be never giving in to the corporate greedy side of things, or the greed that takes over so many that gain so much stardom. I truly cant believe some of the people on this board that bitch about this and that, like its the end of the fucking world and NIN fault that they got to the venue late, or that they are ENTITLED to watch NIN be the last artist on a bill. Not even going to address the shit people are PMing him.
Yes, NIN is a great fucking band and always has been. But to any of the people bitching, and really everyone, let this be just one more way to be inspired about all that goes on in the world around you and realize there are bigger things to get mad about than some of the petty things I see here. There are people all over the world that have to live in conditions you cant even DREAM of, just cause you were LUCKY enough to be born where you were. And some people, like Eric, though living in the richest fucking country in the world, still have other problems you should all be thankful you don't have to deal with. There is a lot of SHIT going on all around you that needs fixing and ANY of us, even if you dont have 1200 dollars to drop, can do little things to just CARE about the world around them whether it be environmentally, socially, politically, or whatever.
It has seemed like people of this world get more and more selfish, petty, and wrapped up in what they feel the world OWES them rather than thinking, were all in this together, and some people have it harder than others and its not their fault. Isnt the whole point of people wanting to even be AROUND other people on a basic level, so we can all add to each others lives so they are better than they would be if we were on our own???
NIN, along with other bands in the late 80s like Skinny Puppy, Dead Kennedys, the "punk" ethic in general, etc etc, inspired me as a teen to really look outside myself and give a shit about others esp those less fortunate than myself. And to fight against the greed, and power addiction so many succumb to in life.
and if the sentiment in songs like Capital G, and The Warning, (hell the whole Year Zero record), and Terrible Lie, and Heresy, didnt inspire us to think about these things......
then I hope people find inspiration from this gesture the Wave Goodbye tour bands are showing in this proposal, and also find inspiration from the fans that have given to the cause. I hope that no one forgets this isnt so much about meeting Trent as it is about helping someone less fortunate than yourself, with a little bonus in it in return (albeit a pretty cool bonus). I hope when people get on this forum to complain they didnt get whats coming to them in whatever way, they first think that maybe things could be much worse, and ARE for others.
And I hope if you cant donate, that you feel inspired to educate yourself about our really messed up health care system (go watch Sicko).....or that you find other ways to make the world better for ALL of us. Start a recycling program at your work (I did and it wasnt hard), or just give a little bit of money to those in need, or just freaking be nicer to others........
Hats off to Trent for never losing sight of the world around him through his rise to stardom and never compromising the art NIN has come to represent.
And hats off to ALL involved in raising this money and exposing the issues involved with Erics situation.
VERY sorry for rambling...I can be wordy....
Ill also see everyone in Camden and then the next night in Holmdell where my girlfriend (a medical student who knows all to well how fucked our HC system is), and I will be honored to shake Trents hand (and everyone elses as well).