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06/08/09 12:50 PM

tracermv posted:
Calderon08 posted:
We need another fucking plague to weed out the disgraces of humanity. We will loose good people too but that is the price. Fuck if I could just have these assholes given to me I could put them in a situation that would scare the living FUCK out of them. They deserve it. Then we'll see who is all high and mighty afterwards.

Maybe we should gather them up in camps to re-educate them and perform experiments on them and then kill them since they are such a blight to our society.

*sigh*

What a load of idiotic BS

Once again, people need to realize that, amongst the millions of NIN fans there are going to be a percentage of selfish assholes. No need to go fucking emo.


everyone on this forum missed the point. Trent has basically said those with money get treated better/prioritized, and I think that is a fundamentally flawed view point. Either you agree that is right or wrong. That's your call to make. He reached out to fans, and broke his promise mid-tour. I just thought Trent was a better person than that...

Keep on trolling, I hope it makes you feel better. [url=http://blogs.setonhill.edu/DenamarieErcolani/troll.jpg][/url]

 

06/08/09 2:44 PM

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/10/2009 12:37AM by Inez.

 

06/08/09 2:12 PM

"Trent has basically said those with money get treated better/prioritized"

what's wrong with that? if you pay 1000 or 300 dollars for a good cause (and i mean helping eric) why trent shouldn't treat those guys who paid better than a guy who just won a twitter contest without doing anything special (except being at the right place at the right moment)?

and excuse me... do the twitter contest winners get a FREE ticket to the show? isn't it enough? some people just can't accept something more important (the whole eric charity auction) occured right after the twitter contest...

 

06/08/09 6:51 PM

trent_reznor posted:
There's many problems...

Whoa, I can't believe I just spot this now. You seemed to be in such a great mood Friday, I would never have guessed anything was bothering you. This makes me appreciate even more the opportunity I had to tell you in person how much your music meant to me. (Again, I can't thank you enough for the donation-cause/meet and greet opportunity).

I don't know how you stuck with being accessible for so long. Some days, I can't stand reading my own friends blog entries or status updates - but I can't imagine what it must feel like if my friends turned on me and sent hateful messages constantly about me or my current lover, etc. I don't understand these fans. I'm sorry you have them. We're not all like that! I completely understand your response and think you are in every right to pull away.

Accessibility to our favorite artists is a treat. Thank you for spoiling us for however long it was smiling smiley

 

06/08/09 6:29 PM

adilicious posted:
"Trent has basically said those with money get treated better/prioritized"

what's wrong with that? if you pay 1000 or 300 dollars for a good cause (and i mean helping eric) why trent shouldn't treat those guys who paid better than a guy who just won a twitter contest without doing anything special (except being at the right place at the right moment)?

and excuse me... do the twitter contest winners get a FREE ticket to the show? isn't it enough? some people just can't accept something more important (the whole eric charity auction) occured right after the twitter contest...

Since you missed the point, again, I'll let someone else's words explain:

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g244/thekornreeper/Picture6.png



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/08/2009 06:29PM by thereeper.

 

06/08/09 6:47 PM

everyone will get their backstage passes so STFU. Ya they can't go backstage anymore but nowhere was there a post/twit whatever stating that those who have/had the passes will get to meet the band and/or even go backstage! Fuck ..anyone trying to argue that is a moron and should learn how to FUCKING READ. You are getting exactly what you won! Just cause you can't go backstage anymore does not mean you can piss and moan about it. GROW UP. You spoiled rotten brats.

and if you still have a problem with that then don't go! And get off here!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/08/2009 06:49PM by Calderon08.

 

06/08/09 7:47 PM

I think the whole donation thing is really cool, and i'm glad NIN or Trent is doing it. Thanks! It's so beautiful to see that a community can really pull together for a good cause. And, really, the people who are somehow having an issue with this should really just be happy with a FREE ticket!! I guess it would be sad not to see the band backstage, but you should be greatful for winning!

 

06/08/09 8:06 PM

Calderon08 posted:
everyone will get their backstage passes so STFU. Ya they can't go backstage anymore but nowhere was there a post/twit whatever stating that those who have/had the passes will get to meet the band and/or even go backstage! Fuck ..anyone trying to argue that is a moron and should learn how to FUCKING READ. You are getting exactly what you won! Just cause you can't go backstage anymore does not mean you can piss and moan about it. GROW UP. You spoiled rotten brats.

and if you still have a problem with that then don't go! And get off here!

I understand what Trent felt he had to do and I'm not going to give him any public shit for it, but you are an unequivocal idiot and a jerk.

A backstage pass that doesn't get you backstage is a piece of paper. Maybe it's a piece of paper that very few other people have (which is cool), but if it doesn't actually afford the holder backstage access, then it doesn't fit the definition of a backstage pass. Try using logic instead of poorly reasoned emotional arguments.

kthxbai

 

06/08/09 8:07 PM

thereeper posted:
tracermv posted:
Calderon08 posted:
We need another fucking plague to weed out the disgraces of humanity. We will loose good people too but that is the price. Fuck if I could just have these assholes given to me I could put them in a situation that would scare the living FUCK out of them. They deserve it. Then we'll see who is all high and mighty afterwards.

Maybe we should gather them up in camps to re-educate them and perform experiments on them and then kill them since they are such a blight to our society.

*sigh*

What a load of idiotic BS

Once again, people need to realize that, amongst the millions of NIN fans there are going to be a percentage of selfish assholes. No need to go fucking emo.


everyone on this forum missed the point. Trent has basically said those with money get treated better/prioritized, and I think that is a fundamentally flawed view point. Either you agree that is right or wrong. That's your call to make. He reached out to fans, and broke his promise mid-tour. I just thought Trent was a better person than that...

Keep on trolling, I hope it makes you feel better. [url=http://blogs.setonhill.edu/DenamarieErcolani/troll.jpg][/url]

o.0

why'd you quote me?

 

06/08/09 8:27 PM

tracermv posted:
Calderon08 posted:
everyone will get their backstage passes so STFU. Ya they can't go backstage anymore but nowhere was there a post/twit whatever stating that those who have/had the passes will get to meet the band and/or even go backstage! Fuck ..anyone trying to argue that is a moron and should learn how to FUCKING READ. You are getting exactly what you won! Just cause you can't go backstage anymore does not mean you can piss and moan about it. GROW UP. You spoiled rotten brats.

and if you still have a problem with that then don't go! And get off here!

I understand what Trent felt he had to do and I'm not going to give him any public shit for it, but you are an unequivocal idiot and a jerk.

A backstage pass that doesn't get you backstage is a piece of paper. Maybe it's a piece of paper that very few other people have (which is cool), but if it doesn't actually afford the holder backstage access, then it doesn't fit the definition of a backstage pass. Try using logic instead of poorly reasoned emotional arguments.

kthxbai

Actually if you want to get technical about things the pass is a piece of paper or card, sticker whatever. I'm a jerk for telling people to stop whining? OK brah whatever. We livein a society where people think they are entitled to many things. It is disgraceful.

 

06/08/09 8:46 PM

Calderon08 posted:
tracermv posted:
Calderon08 posted:
everyone will get their backstage passes so STFU. Ya they can't go backstage anymore but nowhere was there a post/twit whatever stating that those who have/had the passes will get to meet the band and/or even go backstage! Fuck ..anyone trying to argue that is a moron and should learn how to FUCKING READ. You are getting exactly what you won! Just cause you can't go backstage anymore does not mean you can piss and moan about it. GROW UP. You spoiled rotten brats.

and if you still have a problem with that then don't go! And get off here!

I understand what Trent felt he had to do and I'm not going to give him any public shit for it, but you are an unequivocal idiot and a jerk.

A backstage pass that doesn't get you backstage is a piece of paper. Maybe it's a piece of paper that very few other people have (which is cool), but if it doesn't actually afford the holder backstage access, then it doesn't fit the definition of a backstage pass. Try using logic instead of poorly reasoned emotional arguments.

kthxbai

Actually if you want to get technical about things the pass is a piece of paper or card, sticker whatever. I'm a jerk for telling people to stop whining? OK brah whatever. We livein a society where people think they are entitled to many things. It is disgraceful.

While senses of entitlement are bullshit, when you said the following:

"We need another fucking plague to weed out the disgraces of humanity. We will loose good people too but that is the price. Fuck if I could just have these assholes given to me I could put them in a situation that would scare the living FUCK out of them. They deserve it. Then we'll see who is all high and mighty afterwards."

it pretty much qualified you as a jerk. It also showed how overly emotional you're being in your response to the fact that a couple of fans were upset that they didn't what they thought they were going to get.

 

06/08/09 8:51 PM

Calderon08 posted:
Actually if you want to get technical about things the pass is a piece of paper or card, sticker whatever. I'm a jerk for telling people to stop whining? OK brah whatever. We livein a society where people think they are entitled to many things. It is disgraceful.

So if I brought in a piece of paper and scribble "backstage pass" on it, would it then fit your definition of a backstage pass? Or if Trent issued an autographed paper flyer would that be a backstage pass?

No, a backstage pass is a piece of paper or card or other similar object that grants the holder access to the backstage area. As Trent said, they now have a piece of memorabilia (which very few others got to have).

*edited to add:
My point is to quit overstating your arguments and being overly emotional about this.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 06/08/2009 09:08PM by tracermv.

 

06/08/09 9:47 PM

I'm not overly emotional...there just way too many stupid people in todays society. I'm sorry your brain can't process that the post about the plague was a joke and I was being fecicious. Sometimes I forget there are many simpletons on this board. Thanks for proving that.

 

06/08/09 10:00 PM

Calderon08 posted:
I'm not overly emotional...there just way too many stupid people in todays society. I'm sorry your brain can't process that the post about the plague was a joke and I was being fecicious. Sometimes I forget there are many simpletons on this board. Thanks for proving that.

lol

you're very welcome

 

06/08/09 10:01 PM

nice cover, btw

 

06/08/09 10:32 PM

^ tracermv ^

Ok... let it clear.

Now you said
No, a backstage pass is a piece of paper or card or other similar object that grants the holder access to the backstage area. As Trent said, they now have a piece of memorabilia (which very few others got to have).


trent_reznor posted:
If you won tickets / backstage passes from us on Twitter:
Sorry for your endless disappointments,
TR

But you never forgive TR.

 

06/08/09 11:16 PM

the reeper, despite my poor english i didn't miss any point at all... i know what the words "backstage pass" mean... BUT people who won the twitter contest should peacefully accept the fact trent reznor decided to give real backstage access only to donors... all because of eric's case, i guess. because you can't convince people to pay such a lot of money (the $1000 vip package) for something you can just win standing in front of a computer. so i understand the disappointment, even if 15 pages of resentment seem too much to me... c'mon, you can be sad about not hanging backstage but it's not the end of your lives. ok, who had something to bitch about got his opportunity... can we all move along?

p.s. anyway, when i read the backstage stories of the 1000 and 1200 donors i seem to understand that there's no *real* backstage experience even for them... they have dinner with other fans and then, after the show, if they don't sneak into the vip tents they are just told to leave... but you know what? if a guy who's spent all that money doesn't complain why should some lucky guy who got a FREE ticket and a cool memorabilia?

 

06/08/09 11:20 PM

spiralout_ posted:
^ tracermv ^

Ok... let it clear.

Now you said
No, a backstage pass is a piece of paper or card or other similar object that grants the holder access to the backstage area. As Trent said, they now have a piece of memorabilia (which very few others got to have).


trent_reznor posted:
If you won tickets / backstage passes from us on Twitter:
Sorry for your endless disappointments,
TR

But you never forgive TR.

Hmm, maybe it was somebody else who said they now had memorabilia. I'm not going to re-read the entire thread just to argue such a trivial point. Last I checked though a backstage pass isn't much of a backstage pass unless it actually gets you backstage. That's kind of the point.

I'm not griefing TR, I'm responding to Calderon's overzealous postings.

 

06/08/09 11:25 PM

Also, I really don't have anything against TR. He deals with a shitload of bullshit and I can understand why he'd be pissed. I'm just seeing a lot of self-righteousness from posters on this thread and it's kind of annoying.

 

06/09/09 12:17 AM

tracermv posted:
Also, I really don't have anything against TR. He deals with a shitload of bullshit and I can understand why he'd be pissed. I'm just seeing a lot of self-righteousness from posters on this thread and it's kind of annoying.

I think you use logic as you like.

 

06/09/09 12:27 AM

spiralout_ posted:
tracermv posted:
Also, I really don't have anything against TR. He deals with a shitload of bullshit and I can understand why he'd be pissed. I'm just seeing a lot of self-righteousness from posters on this thread and it's kind of annoying.

I think you use logic as you like.

Whatever you say. It is possible to have a nuanced opinion.

 

06/09/09 12:31 AM

If you'd like some clarification on the different aspects of my opinion on this matter, please feel free to ask. Also, if you feel that my logic has some sort of internal contradiction, please feel free to point it out in an explicit manner and I will happily explain what I'm getting at.

thx

*edited to add:
P.S.- perhaps you were taking issue with my discussion of what a backstage pass is. I could see where you might see some minor contradictions in that regard.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/09/2009 12:34AM by tracermv.

 

06/09/09 2:29 AM

this whole thread is kind of sad.

 

06/09/09 2:45 AM

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g244/thekornreeper/th_Picture6.png

fish speaks the truth yawning smiley On a side note, I think censorship in this forum has reached an all time low

 

06/09/09 5:08 AM

thereeper posted:
tracermv posted:
Calderon08 posted:
We need another fucking plague to weed out the disgraces of humanity. We will loose good people too but that is the price. Fuck if I could just have these assholes given to me I could put them in a situation that would scare the living FUCK out of them. They deserve it. Then we'll see who is all high and mighty afterwards.

Maybe we should gather them up in camps to re-educate them and perform experiments on them and then kill them since they are such a blight to our society.

*sigh*

What a load of idiotic BS

Once again, people need to realize that, amongst the millions of NIN fans there are going to be a percentage of selfish assholes. No need to go fucking emo.


everyone on this forum missed the point. Trent has basically said those with money get treated better/prioritized, and I think that is a fundamentally flawed view point. Either you agree that is right or wrong. That's your call to make. He reached out to fans, and broke his promise mid-tour. I just thought Trent was a better person than that...

Keep on trolling, I hope it makes you feel better. [url=http://blogs.setonhill.edu/DenamarieErcolani/troll.jpg][/url]

NO THE POINT IS..... GROW THE HELL UP! I MEAN REALLY, HOW OLD ARE YOU? HAVE YOU NOT LEARNED TO DEAL WITH DISSAPOINTMENT? EVERYTHING CAN'T ALWAYS HAPPEN THE WAY YOU WANT IT TO SO STOP BEING A BITCH.

 

06/09/09 8:59 AM

silverphoenix posted:
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g244/thekornreeper/th_Picture6.png

fish speaks the truth yawning smiley On a side note, I think censorship in this forum has reached an all time low

Was that post you quoted from Fish deleted? I cannot seem to find it. And as far as the topic at hand my opinion, at this point, is best kept to myself.

 

06/09/09 9:03 AM

visage13 posted:
silverphoenix posted:
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g244/thekornreeper/th_Picture6.png

fish speaks the truth yawning smiley On a side note, I think censorship in this forum has reached an all time low

Was that post you quoted from Fish deleted? I cannot seem to find it. And as far as the topic at hand my opinion, at this point, is best kept to myself.

It was deleted....... mysteriously.

 

06/09/09 9:09 AM

^ Wow, just wow, it is so sad when a non attacking post is deleted on a band's board that promotes freedom of speech. It is hypocrisy at it's finest. Why am I not surprised in the slightest?

 

06/09/09 10:41 AM

Freedom of speech around here is kinda like thos Twitter Winner's backstage passes... A novelty at best.

On the other hand... We all get to post for Free!


If you get something for free how can you -cough- bitch if it's not all it's cracked up to be?

-just following in the general attitude in the thread here-

-smells irony-

 

06/09/09 11:15 AM

Calderon08 posted:
We need another fucking plague to weed out the disgraces of humanity. We will loose good people too but that is the price. Fuck if I could just have these assholes given to me I could put them in a situation that would scare the living FUCK out of them. They deserve it. Then we'll see who is all high and mighty afterwards.

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