NetKat posted:

I get why you're prioritizing the people that donated. That's the right thing to do.

At the same time, though, I hope there's less sarcasm in your apology than there appears. People SHOULD be more reasonable and they SHOULD be more understanding about your limitations as a human being, but you gave and then took away from the twitter winners what they probably saw as the biggest opportunity of their lives...

Yes, they should be more reasonable about it. Yes, they should pull their heads out of their asses and accept that luck is less valuable than...well, money, I guess. But I think they have the right to vent.

And this is where you fail to realize that people shouldn't complain about something that is ... FREE. No, you are NOT directly complaining about receiving anything—however in this situation or anything nin related—Trent can do whatever the hell he wants.

If you complain // stop paying attention.

My wife won Twitter tix and passes, we had bought GA tix already so we promptly gave those away after she had won, hearing about Texas and the great luck they had in getting great seats / passes. than shortly after that the donations began. Knowing this we thought that donaters would get the priority of course so we weren't expecting to much out of the passes. After some discussion and waiting to get paid lol we decided to get passes (300 dollar package) however that same day they had sold out of the north american ones. Needless to say we were a bit disappointed but overall extremely happy about what we did get and I definitely can't complain with what we did receive, I think I'm really only disappointed that we gave away our GA tickets instead of using them ourselves, but we did get to go down with some great friends and have a great time.

Edit: Overall VERY HAPPY and couldn't complain with what we did get for FREE!



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NetKat posted:

I get why you're prioritizing the people that donated. That's the right thing to do.

At the same time, though, I hope there's less sarcasm in your apology than there appears. People SHOULD be more reasonable and they SHOULD be more understanding about your limitations as a human being, but you gave and then took away from the twitter winners what they probably saw as the biggest opportunity of their lives...

Yes, they should be more reasonable about it. Yes, they should pull their heads out of their asses and accept that luck is less valuable than...well, money, I guess. But I think they have the right to vent.

Well I was really excited about having the chance to meet everyone. I mean I am happy that I even get to go to a show. But Of course I am very disappointed now that my chance to meet the band was ruined by people who don't know how to stop bitching and just be happy about the chance of meeting the band.

Oh well...people suck.

eureka1 posted:

What NIN is doing for Eric is exceptionally cool. How many other bands have offered a meeet and greet? 1.
I still don't understand all the complaining.

Exactly. Twitter winners should be thankful they won the FREE opportunity to see NIN on their last tour.

Those who can afford the large donations ARE a priority. Period.

megdalena posted:

Seriously??? LAST tour???

Uhhh...where have you been? Didn't you get the memo?

People shouldn't be bitching anyways, at least you were nice enough to give them away at all Trent. And it's FREE so I don't see why they should even complain. I enjoyed the show, and I thank you deeply for it. And you don't need to apologize to assholes that think of themselves. You're an awesome person and fuck them if they don't like it.

LucidReality posted:

I completely understand where Trent is coming from. Donating time and money to Eric without any type of personal gain is extremely honorable. This is nothing you would see from any other band (other than maybe Bono saving a rain forest).

However, it greatly saddens me that once again the Dollar prevails over all. Yes, this is for charity and a good cause, but $1,000 for one person is much more than another. Having daddys deep pockets to go into doesn’t work for everyone. Again, I know many many of the people who donated are just like me living paycheck to paycheck just trying to get by.

Let the flaming begin…

Yeah, I agree with all that.

Abomination posted:

If they're for memorabilia's sake (the backstage passes, I mean), why not send 'em out to folks who donate like $50 or something? That way they get something awesome too, even donating a lower amount?

Just a thought. I mean yeah, they're just paper, and cheap to print up, but to a fan they're priceless!

~Jason

I like this idea.

Whiny bitches never cease to amaze me.

igetaddicted posted:

The people who donated did something great, especially in a time like this when money is tight. To donate to Eric is an amazing thing do and they should get first priority when it comes to the concert.

I don't know about the rest of you, but donating money for backstage passes to help out Eric in reality for me would have been more like paying 1200 dollars to get to meet the band. It's not as completely honorable as everyone is making it out to be. It's not like donating money to Eric would have been the big motivator and meeting the band would have been some sort of special treat in addition. Quite the opposite, actually.

I would gladly pay 1200 bucks to meet NIN (if I had it) for a good cause or for my own gain.

That being said, the fans that did spend the money wether it was because they wanted to help Eric or because they'd gladly pay 1200 bucks to meet the band should take top priority. Because they forked out the cash, and probably most of them couldn't afford to and shouldn't have. And that is honorable.

I think it's great that people are donating money to help save the live of a young man. These peeps most certainly deserve priory backstage.

However I can understand why 'heyericgrant' would be a bit upset. The feeling of disappointment is present in much of Trent's work so we should understand how the guy is feeling. Personally I think a quick 'hello' from the NIN band members would have been enough.

FernandoDANTE posted:

So, basically, Trent was giving out more backstage passes than he could?

LOL. Math fail.

What's really hilarious is that Trent said he had no idea they would get such a huge response in donations! Come on, Trent! we <3 you TOO MUCH!!! You silly!

Starismom:

I would have been just as upset as @heyericgrant! I'd like to think I would have behaved more admirably, but I don't think so.... which is sad to say, but true. I don't think I would say anything mean or bad to Trent about it, cuz I understand why he has chosen the donators over the winners as priority, but I would probably still mope and whine a lot to anyone who would listen.

jerretwold:

Thank you.

Dude needs a heart, and these losers clearly aren't using theirs. Pitiful.

I can't believe people are giving Trent static on this. Like he really owes you anything, or even an explanation.

Way before all this twitter nonsense I lucked into backstage passes from JMJ for LITS over Sacramento. We went back, hung in the lounge, and luckily for us Robin, JMJ and Josh stopped by, and we got to say hello to Rob. Trent did not drop in. Was I disappointed? No, because I really didn't predefine my experience around meeting ANYONE there (especially for free) and I don't think Trent should base his existence around me or anybody else. It's his show. It was still the greatesst experience ever.

THERE ARE NEVER ANY GUARANTEES. These situations are fluid. If Trent doesn't want to hang, or has other priorities (far more important ones btw), so be it. Trent gives more than any other artist and people still want more. STFU already.

These guys won free tickets to the greatest show on earth. If they really want to fawn over Trent that much, I suggest going here: http://store.nin.com/helperic. Buy the fucking package. Make a contribution. Maybe it's time to give a bit back and contribute more than bullshit criticism.

Suck it, whiners.

First off, as a person with congenital heart failure/issues I fully get the purpose of the charity and RESPECT Trent for helping out. I know how hard the red tape of healthcare, Medicare or any insurance can be and at this time.

Secondly, I can see both sides of this coin. There are people out there who won and got to meet them up until the passes were moved over for the charity drive. I think that the remaining pre-charity drive winners deserve the same thing the other winners got if not maybe altered like a quick signing before they got on their buses or a poster that is autographed. I understand and agree that the priority should be given to those who donated and if I would have won, yeah I would be bummed too but look at the grand scheme of things… you didn't pay anything but for a tank of gas, parking, food and beer (which if you were smart you tail gated prior to the show). It is your fucking fault if you flew from CA to MA to see the band. Yes I understand maybe there should have been this announcement earlier after the drive was proving to be a success but things like that fall through cracks when the man running it is also doing a tour. So yes I agree with Reznor in this whole thing.

The two things that make me the happiest is 1. The total support shown for someone whom we all never met and 2. the hope that this means Sean Combs (IAMDIDDY) got shut out too… unless he coughs up $1200 for each ticket and pass he won.

If Reznor were to allow his passes to be honored as they were won, then yes I think he should honor the rest that way too. However just by this charity drive alone he has proven his commitment to the cause and the donations.



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