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06/10/09 1:30 PM

Figures my reply would be in the middle of things.....

but it's just adds on to the fact that you trent, have a big following
we LOVE you (not as a friend or a family member because despite hearing what has been inside your soul since 1989 we don't know you personality, even though so of us fan may think we do)

Having read what you let us know explains a lot as to what all this twitter dare a say drama was about
and it almost strange how my friend pointed out the front row of fat women at the irvine show...
weird.... it seems really stupid that these people cause so much trouble for you the artist and us the fans...
I'm sorry you are gonna detach for social network sites but I very much understand.

I AM GLAD YOU ARE NOT THE SAME GUY YOU WERE IN 1994, I AM GLAD YOU ARE HAPPY!
because I am not the same person I was then too... I was a kid back then now I'm 24 and learning how to live
Nine inch nails helps me understand the way out is through... lol
and just like this thing I written, I have flaws and I understand you do too
I'm just glad you let us know a bit more of how your personality is...

I hope you still communicate with your good fans every so often

 

06/10/09 1:30 PM

This is his 42nd post... maybe I'm just a bigger geek than most of you and maybe I'm reading too much into this, but that's a pretty significant number to us geeks.

Maybe this is Trent's goodbye to the forums?

 

06/10/09 1:31 PM

i think i respect you more as an artist for not holding on to the idea of what made you big and just doing what you think feels right.

 

06/10/09 1:31 PM

I love the fact that you are so interactive with the fans. This is what makes you truly unique. I am sad that I most likely just saw your last live show, but can totally understand the need for you guys to stop. I at least had hoped, along with other I am sure, that the interaction would still exist. I personally love the litte tidbits or "tweets" that you share. What really pisses me off is the fuckers that fucking ruined it for eveyone. Thanks alot DICKS!!

But, back to you. I wish you well and hope that we continue to see you in whatever forum you find appropriate for the fans that really just care about your music and you as a person.

Good luck and THANK YOU SO MUCH for the memories. I have thoroughly enjoyed the many years of concerts and music. thumbs up

 

06/10/09 1:31 PM

Misery LOVES company. It's so easy to be a coward on the internet, isn't it? Thank you for communicating honestly with us. I hope your writing and music is now influenced by the love you have in your life (finally)! Very happy for you. Metal Sludge is creepy.

 

06/10/09 1:32 PM

trent_reznor posted:
With all of that said, I have business in the real world to attend to including wrapping up the live version of NIN

The only part about your post I didn't like. sad smiley

 

06/10/09 1:32 PM

I think people who go that negative route figure they will get attention from you in some way. Though a cruel analogy, much like children who act out. Their id screams for you, but they don't even know You, just the representation of ? It's shocking to me that there even has to be a discussion about it at all. And, I think a little embarrasing for people who really have enjoyed your music for so long; like we really really want to separate ourselves from that other group of people. You gave me backstage passes to one of your shows; one of which I gave to the girl standing in front of me as my boyfriend couldn't make it. I gave the awesome extra seat to a guy sitting alone up on the lawn. I ended up wishing I had given the pass to the obese goth chick I came across in the bathroom, but the thought actually crossed my mind if that would piss you off. I still feel bad about it..kinda stings to read plump and unattractive, though they may say whatever they say about you and yours, they are actually quite fragile. You are Q are both aesthetically pleasing and talented human beings, a bulls-eye for other's insecurities.

 

06/10/09 1:33 PM

Way to go Trent, you rule!

 

06/10/09 1:34 PM

leo3375 posted:
The glimpses at Trent Reznor the normal human being have been great. Loved the humor, the sarcasm, and the general persona it projected. If you truly are leaving Twitter, I for one will miss some of the funniest things that ever graced the Twittersphere. Thank you for sharing a little piece of yourself.

couldn't say it better myself.

 

06/10/09 1:34 PM

I suspect the days of famous people using Twitter are certainly numbered, because sooner or later they will all begin to become sick and tired of the noise it is generating. Sadly, a small section of the fan bases out there just can't handle the concept of knowing that something they write has the possibility of being read by their heroes and acknowledged. And I think people take that desire to be acknowledged to a various degree of levels including attacking the person as we've seen. Attack the person, attack their relationship and attack everything they do.

And while the "link" between fans and the subject is fun, rich and very informative for most.. it is ultimately set to fail due to this small section of people who just can't handle the "access" it presents them.

And of course, this is the internet.. which is full of all it's anonymous joy in which a person can say whatever they want and hide behind their screen. Yet not one of them would have the balls to say it to the persons face. But you can tell why they do it, because you look at their Twitter accounts of those attacking and notice they can't stop talking about it.. in their distorted world, they've become the famous person and they're now loving the attention.

Fun times.

It's been great to have the link Trent. I hope during the next couple of years you're able to update NiN.com every once in a while with a blog entry or two. It will be nice to keep track of whats happening in your world.

Looking forward to seeing my first NiN show in London. Enjoy the rest of the tour.

 

06/10/09 1:35 PM

SlightlyAutistic posted:
Blueheaven posted:
trent_reznor posted:
unattractive plump females

So being 'plump' is unattractive?

I respect the point you are making Trent but i find that comment dissapointing coming from you.

He means these females are unattractive due to their internal problems...

on the outside they just happen to be plump

I don't think he's equating the two to be mutually exclusive.

or he's talking about the chicks with Fat Rage.

See I'm plump. Unatractive and plump. But I don't have fat rage and I'm trying to be a rather decent person.

I'm also not a psychopath who threatens Trent's soon to be wife.

SO NOT ALL FATTIES ARE PSYCHOS and not all psychos are fatties.

I'm a fatty, and I'm taking my medication and I have proof on paper from my psych that I'm sane.

Oh dear that didn't come out right.

 

06/10/09 1:36 PM

I've been listening to your music and following you since 1989 when I saw you with die
warzau in New York at either the new music seminar or cm. tTVT was handing out free
cassette samplers with nin and some other band and SIN was on that cassette. The show
had to be stopped because the audience (of maybe 1-200) had stormed the stage at your
invitation and complete chaos ensued with almost the entire audience on stage. I told
everyone I knewin Boston (at the time) about this new band called nine inch nails. The
interest in the music, the shows and the nin culture was completely organic as a nin wave
swept over the city in the months ahead. It seemed like you did everything right in
protecting was was great about your music and the culture you were creating.

I tell you this not to impress you with my fan loyalty or anything of the sort. I say
this to let you know there are those of us who have found a kindred spirit in you and
a deep connection to the music you create. Back in 1989 your music fit like a glove -
the lyrics let me know I was not alone and they articulated how I had been feeling for
years. The next time I saw nin was at lollapalooza when you were paid a mere $12,000.
per show. It was like a religious experience in mansfield massachusetts with the dirt
and mud flying everywhere and you endlessly accosting and insulting the audience.
It ended with a stage covered in ruble, dirt, mud and your guitarists blood while the
audience stood in all their glory giving you the finger. One of the greatest shows
I have ever seen, and I've seen a few... The music, the lyrics, the live performance
and the fans were one big organic mass....

Connecting with you online was WEIRD, like the first time I heard you interviewed
on mtv. My first thought was PLEASE DON'T TALK!!!! The music and culture you
created were so sacred to me and were such a part of my life I didn't want to risk it
being personified through the filter of a bad mtv interview. I got through it and you
didn't do much more of that fortunately. Being able to watch the creative process
through a web cam in the studio was amazing and I would keep it on for ages just
to see someone walk by and feel a bit closer to the process and the magic of the
studio. When you started to get more deeply involved with your online communication
you handled it in a way that walked the line perfectly between access and - not. I got
sober years ago and then a few years later you got sober and again the music and lyrics
captivated me at an entirely new level. You were once again articulating the journey /
struggle of living life without a filter - not an easy task. For some reason Every Day Is
Exactly The Same rang so TRUE for me and again I felt that connection between fan and
artist - through the art, through the music, the lyrics and the imagery, not through an
overly personal connection.

The Twitter experiment was extremely strange for me as a 20 year fan. I knew that it
was time to "meet the artist" as I too am a daily user of technology, social networks,
messaging and the like. I get my news and information from rss feeds and my music
from bittorrent (for the most part) and exist in the world of the present.

Following you on Twitter was actually a tremendous amount of fun for the most part.
You are as a I imagined you would be at this point on your career as an artist. Independent,
outspoken and trying to do the right thing for your fans and for your art - remaining honest
at any cost. When the bullshit with certain protagonists started on Twitter, it was my hope
that you would not retreat back into the silence this time, but rather find a way to rise above
it. Alas, I know from your musical past and career choices that you do not back down from
fights or confrontation and I suspected it would get brutal.

Your voice has been an important one to many over the years and I know I am not the only
one that remains grateful to you for tearing out your heart and sharing it with us. Your attempt
to connect at the level you have has actually been great and I applaud your for once again -
remaining honest at any cost. I know you will continue to connect with the public that follows
your music through the nin culture and for this moment, it was generous of you to let us so far
inside and strip away what was left of the space between artist and fan - music lover and artist -
lunatic and his army of twisted followers. Thanks Trent - Best - Chris Johnson



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06/10/09 1:37 PM

I am a plump female but I am definitely a decent human being LOL. I follow you in Twitter too and I have been quite puzzled at the level of hate and malice coming from people recently. Apart from the fact that they are losers, they don't understand that people change over time. Heck, I don't want to be the person I was 10 years ago, it was freaking hard to get where I am. And right now, I am happy. And personally, I appreciate that you have grown as an artist.

Fuck the haters man, if you are in love and you find yourself in a good spot in your life, the people who doesn't like that can go to hell.

I have been a fan for a long time, I have seen the good, the bad and the ugly in the last 20 years (god man, I feel old sometimes when I see teenagers at the shows) and to be honest, I am glad that you have found a place to be.

Thanks for this tour, it was 1991 for me all over again in a GOOD WAY.

 

06/10/09 1:37 PM

I will miss your tweets, they have been fun.

I have been a fan of your music for 20 years and that well not change.

Best wishes to you and Mariqueen

 

06/10/09 1:38 PM

I'm glad you're not the same person you were in 1994. Because I'm not either. I prefer artists who's work grows with me. Your music does not have to stay relevant to early 20 somethings anymore. That is the beauty of the new media. We can all be a little more true to our outlets of expression and we're free to evolve.
As for the assholes, there are many ups and downs to a truely free press. Speaking as a webmaster of sorts for Indymedia(a bit different 'cause it's a news site) I know all too well the challenges and frustrations of providing a public forum without disruption from nazi types and crazies. We don't have the right to silence anyone, but with equal access to media, we are not obligated to use our resources to host unwanted noise(they can go start their own website).
It's now up to us to be our own filters. We have been so sheltered from each other and we've gotten so used to having all our experiences mediated that as a culture we've forgotten how to deal with each other without it. I suspect the chaos will find an order as the generations develop the necessary social skills.
You have the special misfortune to be a celebrity in the midst of this social change. You have been objectified and commodified for a couple decades now. It will take some getting used to, I think, for people to treat you with respect and think of you as a person. I think people forget that a celebrity is just as vulnerable to criticism as anyone else and maybe especially so because they are in the spotlight.
Of course, there will always be the mentally damaged folks with no sense of social grace. Maybe we all just have to get thicker skin for dealing with them.

 

06/10/09 1:38 PM

SlightlyAutistic posted:
Blueheaven posted:
trent_reznor posted:
unattractive plump females

So being 'plump' is unattractive?

I respect the point you are making Trent but i find that comment dissapointing coming from you.

He means these females are unattractive due to their internal problems...

on the outside they just happen to be plump

I don't think he's equating the two to be mutually exclusive.

I believe if a girl is plump AND attractive she is either PHAT in American English or saftig (juicy) in German. Hmm. Getting thirsty....

 

06/10/09 1:41 PM

Just wanted to say along with everyone else that I really have appreciated getting to know the man behind the music through twitter. Mood swings and all! We all have our moments and that is what makes us human. The ability to feel.

As for the trolls harrassing you and your beautiful bride to be it disgustes me but you're not the only one. My husband is half pakistani and I've gotten quite a few racial slurs thrown my way online. I know it hurts. No matter who you are, there will always be someone there to drag you down.

smiling smiley you will be missed by me and the rest of us but don't forget to come back.

also, I know you'd never read this but if there is a video/dvd in the works for the wave goodbye tour please do not forget the deaf fans, there are several on NIN.com including me. CC for the videos would be really great, that that's possible.

Sheri.

 

06/10/09 1:42 PM

SlightlyAutistic posted:
Blueheaven posted:
trent_reznor posted:
unattractive plump females

So being 'plump' is unattractive?

I respect the point you are making Trent but i find that comment dissapointing coming from you.

He means these females are unattractive due to their internal problems...

on the outside they just happen to be plump

I don't think he's equating the two to be mutually exclusive.

I think you don't know what he was thinking, but while we are at it, I think he did. "TRULY ugly on the inside (the outside is obvious)." Yes, this is quite obvious.

 

06/10/09 1:42 PM

so many things i could comment on. first i will say I AGREE the online world is filled with falsehood and disgust... i dont even like being online anymore.

back to the begining.
one thing caught my attation. you said you we're not the same person that you were in 1994. I am really glad you are not. and im sure many other fans feel the same way. Its good to "grow up" and move on. otherwise YOU or anyone would be completely crazy if they stayed the same way forever. I know im constantly changing, its part of what makes me a better person each day for my friends and my girl.

If YOU stayed the same NIN would have not reached the amazing levels that it sits on now! we would still be listening to versions of the downward spiral. you see thats my fasination with the band, each album is different and has a different process of enjoying it.

Trent Keep changing and evolving. Its makes for better music (from you) and a better more admirable person.

Also im glad your inlove, its an amazing feeling isn't it? I would say your the luckiest person. You are doing what you enjoy -which makes a difference for millions of people- and your in love and happy.

Thats my goal in life.

Happy ways in life!
The Nine Inch Nails community hope to hear from you down the road!

 

06/10/09 1:43 PM

Some of this was rather funny.

But, please ignore the mindless idiots that like to piss people off on their spare time.

They are not all of us.

 

06/10/09 1:44 PM

I have been a fan for many years, traveled hours to see your shows and enjoyed every single one of them, i'm saddened that a couple of morons had to ruin this for the rest of us who truly respect and admire you as an artist.

 

06/10/09 1:44 PM

Trent:

It's funny...now that I'm here writing, I hardly know what to say. I'll just start by saying I have been a fan as long as I can remember (hell, I was even the Editor-In-Chief of SickAmongThePure.net and wrote The Beautiful Liar column for a couple of years back in the day). So forgive me if my new presence here is a little jarring...work keeps me from my computer most of the time, but after seeing you last night at Merriweather in MD and reading your most recent post, I felt it was time to say a couple of things.

Your music has been the soundtrack of pretty much every get-together, breakup, my wedding, my divorce (that was a joy, lemme tell ya), and even the advent of my getting my shit together since I first heard you. As I listened, it made me feel okay with this overwhelming rage inside of me that came from seemingly nowhere and just hated the entire world for no reason I could tell. Knowing I wasn't alone made it easier to slowly but surely make friends with my anger.

I always knew you were a real human being behind all the anger and the music, and honestly, that's what I found the most fascinating about you. Granted, I also am in touch with reality enough to know my chances of meeting you were thin to say the least. So I just ran my website (for a while), listened, read articles, and just mused about the kind of person you are inside my own head.

(Somewhat embarrassing admission: my fiance looks enough like you circa The Fragile that folks who have NO CLUE who you are think pictures of you are him...and I'm enough of a dumbass I didn't even notice it until a friend of mine pointed it out! Not to mention he's also a pianist/guitarist/composer. HA!)

So okay...why am I rambling on and on...really it's very simple...the one thing I've always wanted to do is to thank you for being there and being uncompromisingly yourself etc etc, but was too scared to say anything (I didn't want to seem like one of those...people...creatures?... you were talking about). But in light of all the negative, hate-spewing fuckers you've been fighting with lately, I felt now was my moment...So...THANK YOU.

Watching you over the past few years clean your shit up and get it together...and ::gasp:: find LOVE ::faints:: has been an absolute JOY for me. In fact, I think the first words out of my mouth when I was told about your engagement were: It's about fucking time he found somebody!!!

If there's anyone out there who deserves someone to love them warts and all...it's you! Thank you for choosing to stay with us. Thank you for being brave enough to clean up. Thank you for telling the music industry to stick it. Thank you for taking a chance on love.

Don't ever change.

Okay...enough embarrassing myself in public.

Best,
Amy

 

06/10/09 1:45 PM

Dude, I really loved that you were 'in it' with us. i freaked out when you actually responded to people's replies to your tweets. It was like there was a real human being named Trent Reznor that *really* did do things normal people do. =)

 

06/10/09 1:45 PM

dori_doreau posted:
leo3375 posted:
The glimpses at Trent Reznor the normal human being have been great. Loved the humor, the sarcasm, and the general persona it projected. If you truly are leaving Twitter, I for one will miss some of the funniest things that ever graced the Twittersphere. Thank you for sharing a little piece of yourself.

couldn't say it better myself.

I agree. Thanks Trent for sharing a piece of yourself with us. Thanks to you for connecting so much with your fans. Most musicians with successes as big as yours have lost that piece. Sorry to hear the few idiots out there have ruined it for the rest of us. Thanks for providing some of the music to the soundtrack of my life. Looking forward to what you have in store for us all....

 

06/10/09 1:45 PM

I'm a huge NIN fan and I've been to three shows so far this year, but I find it a bit lame that he's abandoning the social networking sites right after he raised a million dollars for someone's heart transplant. It should be pretty fucking obvious that while there are idiots on these sites, there's a lot of caring people as well. The whole timing is just a little off putting to me.

 

06/10/09 1:47 PM

I see, when the guy who they were publicly fantasizing about having sex with happened to be doing something other than the approved activity of bawling his eyes out in the corner 24-7 .
Disappointment followed...............

 

06/10/09 1:49 PM

Trent, I might have written the same on Twitter but anyway, thank you for being yourself. As a since-Broken-era fan outside the north America and Europe, I saw you smash up the guitar or keyboard circa 1994 on a bootleg video in 1994. 15 years later, it's your good old public image you are smashing on the internet, and high-quality NIN live videos are widely available for free. How things change, and I'm glad and grateful.

It makes me a bit sad if your tweets will stop appearing in my timeline, because I love your sense of humour - it would be great if I could find your tweet from time to time. After all, being a human being isn't so bad, innit? I'm just a little bit younger than you, and I came to realise this - not bad. smiling smiley I'm honoured to be "here and now" with Nine Inch Nails for the most of my adult life - the age of multinational-capitalism, neo-liberalism, the Iraq war, etc - and I feel extremely privileged to share the first half of the year 2009 with you on Twitter.

I'm going to see Boris on Friday here in Tokyo. In the meantime, don't miss Jim Jarmusch's new film, The Limits of Control.

Thank you again, for your music, words, attitude and efforts. In iconoclast we trust.

 

06/10/09 1:50 PM

Hey Trent,

A friend of mine went blind all of the sudden during his senior year in high school. His wife Lisa recently contacted you about getting some better seats at the concert in Phoenix. She was willing to pay for them, but you gave them to her. I just wanted to thank you for doing that. That show was awesome by the way. Thanks for doing one last show in Phoenix, if this is indeed NIN's last tour.

Thanks for the music and your time,
Jesse

 

06/10/09 1:51 PM

Wow...u are truly an amazing and beautiful person....inside and out. The line that most caught my eye was when u said...

"You are right, I'm not the same person I was in 1994 (and I'm happy about that). Are you?"

I'm very happy for u. I have struggled with many things in my life (as we all have) addiction being one of them. Dec 5th will be 4 years for me. What people need to understand is that becoming sober opens a whole new world for you. As does falling in love. You get to see things in whole DIFFERENT perspective and it's wonderful. People that hate on that are the most lost bitter souls on this earth. All anybody wants to ever be is happy and it's disgusting when ppl want to hate you for that. People are supposed to lift others up when they finally start finding their way...not criticize them because they can't seem to find theirs. Thats why there is so much ugliness in this world and I'm happy that you were able to finally find some beauty. That beauty is your's so hold on to it and fuck anyone that tries to take it away from you.

NIN is a HUGE chapter in your life and if you believe it's time to put it down....then do it. Start a brand new one with Mariqueen. She is a beatiful person that has brought out a brand new Trent and it's astounding. I'm SO GLAD you have finally found that missing puzzle piece. It's truly amazing when one person finds their soulmate and I wish nothing but the best for the both of you.

I'm going to be at the show in NC in the front row of the pit...well try...i'm only 5'2". Don't worry tho...i'm not fat or a hater...haha. I'm coming with my brother. There is 10 year age difference between us (him being 33 and me being 23)and I grew up thinking he was my uncle. My mom had him very young and my grandparent's adopted him. Funny thing is...we have never told each other we know that we know we are brother and sister, so I have missed out on having a big brother all my life. I invited him to come with me Friday because NIN is one thing that has always given us a "bond". Thank you so much for that. It's the little things like that that I hope you take with you from your true fans when ppl start spitting their venom.

 

06/10/09 1:52 PM

T,

"In the year 3000 you tube, twitter and facebook will join forces and create the ultimate waste of time site called www.youtwitface.com"

...

With that being said, unfortunately there is a surplus of trolls who spend their very existence trying to annoy/piss off the people that they target because of whatever insecurities they possess.

These people fail to realize that they do not know you on a personal level. That's right kiddies, listening to the Fragile does not put you on a personal/bonded relationship/friendship with Trent. So the actions/choices that you Trent set forth into motion should not directly effect another person on a personal level that you do not know. And if it does....psychotherapy anyone?

If you decided to blow up the entire NIN planet I could care less. Why? Because what you do does not affect me because you are not in my circle of friends. Nor am I a member of the band where blowing that up would directly affect my job. I am simply happy with the few cd's I have that comfort me when I need it or help push me through a tough 2hr training circuit at the gym.

I work at a Mental Health/Detox/Correctional Youth facility and trust me I have to deal with similar delusional people on a daily basis.

Do what is best for you and keep following your heart/instincts. And don't let anyone steal your sunshine smiling smiley

J.



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