Goodness, this thread has digressed.

I have been skimming the pages throughout the day, and I am in awe. There have been some well thought out and well writen posts. There has been a lot of rubbish. When I first posted, it wasnt to start a slagfest. I just felt compelled to call into question the need to use negative physical discriptives as a way to hurt others. To me, when you resort to calling people out by using shallow insults, you lower yourself to the same pathetic level of those you feel have wronged you. Sorry, it is just how I feel. Not to mention that by addressing these people who have been slandering you and yours, in the most basic way you validate them by acknowledging their antics.


As far as the identity verification systems go. WOW. I am not sure what to say.

Ha! I was even surprised Trent tried out Twitter in the first place. Still, it's a good thing he's quitting. That's the most moronic thing ever. Just watch st. Hank speak: [www.youtube.com] ...true!

P.S. Hey, "Chinese Democracy" came out first!

re account verification: no problem with that as long as it won't reduce the verified accounts to credit card owners. there's a world outside usa, where NOT everybody has one.

but if verification means my full or first name or any other private info would be shown to the public i'd have a problem. i like my privacy on the net, and i protect it as good as i can. i'm fine with the idea that admins can get this information if needed, but that's it. i like to decide by myself how much info i'll give out to whom. not because i will troll or insult people, but because i don't trust "the net" and its associated mechanisms.

and a "rating system for the trustworthiness of individuals"? no. just no. this is not a professional, job related forum but a music related community. if i need to be approved by "premium users" (in other words: if i need to kiss ass) to be a full member of such a community, i'm out.

dori_doreau posted:

re account verification: no problem with that as long as it won't reduce the verified accounts to credit card owners. there's a world outside usa, where NOT everybody has one.

but if verification means my full or first name or any other private info would be shown to the public i'd have a problem. i like my privacy on the net, and i protect it as good as i can. i'm fine with the idea that admins can get this information if needed, but that's it. i like to decide by myself how much info i'll give out to whom. not because i will troll or insult people, but because i don't trust "the net" and its associated mechanisms.

and a "rating system for the trustworthiness of individuals"? no. just no. this is not a professional, job related forum but a music related community. if i need to be approved by "premium users" (in other words: if i need to kiss ass) to be a full member of such a community, i'm out.

Exactly this. Word for word. And it's not because one is anonymous that one insults people. Anonymous or not, trolls are trolls and nice people are nice people.

my personal favorite Trent Tweets:

And, I'm not wearing any pants.

Some of you pointed out I use an excessive amount of exclamation points. It was hard not to use one in the last post.

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Have CNN on in the background and realize I'm humming the "Jitterbug" commercial. If you've heard it - you know there's pain involved.

and while we're all huddled around the campfire hugging, can we make a deal to NOT use or write the word JITTERBUG ever again? Please?

I love seeing the word DIDDY pop up in TwitScoop. Makes me feel like everything's going to be OK.

I'm in a grungy room that smells of crew guys playing Survivalism over and over. Not so glamorous today (but still fun).

It has come to this: @justinmj and I are 5 feet away from each other giggling at each other's tweets.

At JMJ's insistence, we've worked up a pretty cool cover of R Kelly's "Real Talk", but I don't know... tough to top a classic. Thoughts?

I keep checking my email to see IFAPPLEWILLEVERAPPROVETHEFUCKINGIPHONEAPP... but nothing. Just more Viagra offers.

...now maybe I shouldn't have taken that fourth viagra...

I've sat for the last 20 minutes watching the globe spin around at [access.nin.com] with a stupid grin on my face.

Made a rare public outing last night. 5 different people approached me (all male) and said "nice app!" (cont.)

However, it was really loud and I thought they were all saying "nice ASS". Threw me off my game for a minute.

Sleep is for sissies.

starting to lose control of body functions, may have just pulled a Fergie and peed in my pants a little.

RT @dannylohner: wtf?- i just got twittered in the shitter by Tyrannosaurus Reznor!!??;;##

We're rehearsing some interesting selections and I just have to take a second to say how proud I am of this band. Great, talented guys.

And I got some sleep and I got struck by lightning and everything is pretty amazing.

Let's all hug.

Just finished a fitting for our new stage costumes. If Robin's wings light up the way we hope, this is going to be awesome.

So many different things coming together to make my life complete... including this: http://bit.ly/18SPuM

BTW, thank you all for the kind words regarding my (formerly) private life. Being happy feels funny. I like!

If you're looking for a pet, consider rescuing a greyhound. I have two and they're awesome (and slightly insane!) http://bit.ly/1aquXs

Now that I'm in love and gone all soft on you, can anyone recommend any romantic comedies? Got a weird urge.

Now we're getting somewhere! Music & Lyrics- Hugh Grant AND Drew Barrymore. So hardcore it should have a warning label! (via @thatcesareguy)

In fact, I bet @mariqueen is listening to it as I write this. It's amazing. (she is, too)

Check out my cool hotel room the crew customized for me! http://yfrog.com/06mtjj

hahaha, nice one crew guys... hahahahaaaa haaaaaaaaa YOU'RE ALL FIRED.

Busted! You know how i know you're gay? You have a Coldplay poster in your hotel room. Couldn't help it. (via @cdgalanis)

Hey everyone - I apologize for what seems like a Twitter-bug (NOT a Jitterbug - and FUCK that's in my head now) cont.

Wait - I'm in love and getting married! I'd give you all free tickets if I could. (hugs)

Watching the sun rise on day one of the NIN/JA tour. I'm looking forward to these shows.

RT @rob_sheridan: Fun hotel pranks: Finding unwittingly open drop boxes on the hotel's network. Currently filling D Navarro's with gay porn.

First we're catching a matinée of "Ghosts of Girlfriends Past" before soundcheck to get pumped up.

I am missing someone. Boo hoo.

Just watched a beautiful sunrise in New Mexico. Thinking of what songs to play tonight as the sun will be setting.

RT @VeronicaDLCruz: PLS HELP SAVE #ERICS LIFE. Needs heart transplant no centers in NV.Caught in disability redtape http://bit.ly/3ykS2

Overnight bus ride highschool makeout session coming up. (not with band)

in the arms of the one i love Zzzzzzzzz

HAPPY BIRTHDAY to the incredible Tom Morello! Happy to be finally touring with you! @tmorello

@mariqueen and I are morphing into some kind of singular super-being capable of limitless potential.

Let's focus the community spiritually to aim positive energy and prayer to #Eric. He needs it right now. THANK YOU.

@demonbaby Sorry man, I love you but that's NOT a fish. Don't fuck with Arby's.

This "being madly in love" thing is weird. Feels bad being apart.

Thanks to those I got to meet this afternoon - you've begun restoring my faith in people and I needed that. Enjoy the show!

I have been sober for 8 years today (where I am). Thanks for letting me share that with you. Proud of that.

Have a great show @mariqueen - we're onstage at the same time. XO

Greyhound in sickbay! http://twitpic.com/6wtgp

That's Josie and she's fine.She was abducted (aliens) as a pup and occasionally gets weird mutant growths in her paws.Milking the attention.

And no she's not with me and that's not my room. I have zebra print.

Returning to the land that spawned me today.

I like the human Trent, thank you for the window, I truly appreciate it and will miss reading all the things like that.

and to the trolls:
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PS If you get to read this Mr. Reznor, you and mariqueen should do a deut recording of "I Got You Babe" just to piss off those hater bitches.

I've been thinking about all the people that are so upset that Trent would say something bad about his fans (re: Plump).

I think it's likely that they became fans fairly recently. The rest of us are not surprised. Were just happy to be reminded why we like Trent Reznor: He's just as big of a dick as WE are. And we are happy as pigs in shit to see him tearing into all the self righteous children who think he owes them anything. He is not a god. He is a human being. You have never gotten pissed and lashed out? Maybe it's time to stop expecting perfection out of everyone but yourself.

The world is not here to accommodate you. Eventually you will have to come to terms with the fact that the REAL world does not give a shit about your hurt feelings.
If this is all it takes to make you dumb little kids feel betrayed, chances are the next ten or fifteen years are REALLY gonna roll your asses.



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^ I agree with Joshua 100% especially the last line...Trent is human, but part of being in the REAL WORLD too means accepting that you can't change people so you learn to rise above the insults and the bullshit, you don't let it get to you...you don't let it get you down and you don't let it drag you down into a childhood, school yard tit for tat name calling fights, cause then you BOTH end up looking stupid...basically at some point, YOU GOTTA GROW UP and SUCK IT UP! Put on the big boy and big girl panties and deal with it as such, but THAT comes with age, maturity, a sense of self and a strong foothold in reality. Unfortunately, I don't see a whole hell of a lot of that happening these days...the world is just plain getting ugly all around.

I think the potential was always there for it, the "info age" has given it this beautiful outlet called the Internet where people can act like complete morons because they can hide behind a screen, where they don't think they'll ever have to answer for it. Maybe in a way the Internet has become a new battle ground/battle field, of the mind, of the fantasy online v the real world.

If there's anything I've learned, thanks to being exposed to this, I'm just glad I have a really good close group of life long friends who are really down to earth and that I live a Plain Jane average life. There are some things in life, the BS, the stress, dealing with this kind of utter shit day in and day out...that all the money, and fame and possessions in the world aren't worth. And some things in life that money can't ever buy (THAT is reality). IF that has ANYTHING to do with the Hiatus...I say TRENT RUN LIKE HELL and don't look back! Because, for once in my life I can honestly say...It's good to JUST BE ME! (Jane Doe, PA, reporting from the Plow, with the howling owl out in the woods, hunting the horney backed toad )



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jayetheartist posted:

ROFL!! Trent has released the hounds!!!
(Use of the term "hounds" is not meant as a dig at the mods, by the way. You guys know I think you're awesome, right?)

Woof??

I guess I just want to say that I hope Trent Reznor continues to make music.

Everything I know about him is information formed through complete speculation, but it appears that these are very turbulent times, and judging from his posts recently, it seems like he's very frustrated at the whole process of NIN. And it seems like it's been moving in that direction since he decided to take the final steps towards independence from the industry. It must be very difficult at this point because now he not only has to handle the responsibilities of being a musician who continues to perform at a high level (from both a production and a live perspective), but he must also deal personally with the functions that used to be handled by the industry.

Sometimes, the responsibilities associated with the later of Trent's new position -- essentially business aspects -- can consume a person, and one can lose sight of that love that drove him/her to that place from the beginning.

So I hope that doesn't happen in Trent's case, because I think the new direction has brought some great things musically that would not have been conceivable under the old system -- specifically, Ghosts, which I thought was an incredibly interesting piece from a musical perspective. I hope that those sorts of creative projects continue to flow in the future, even if it means NIN ceases to exist as a touring entity, or at all, for that matter.

However, I understand that Ghosts must have been extremely risqué from a business perspective, and one has to generate a market somehow. Does that market come at the price of sacrificing the more interesting / inaccessible parts?

That must be a very tight wire to walk. I hope things become still again and we get to hear new things.

Ofcourse he'll make music.

Do you really think he's come all this way to stop because people over the internet/whatever are pissing him off?

He's said there will be another majour NIN album coming, and i'm SURE he'll continue to be around music.

This Thread is growing to an incredible size of senselessness and trouble!

There is no useful result here!

Mods & Admins have to close this Thread!

Beefee posted:

This Thread is growing to an incredible size of senselessness and trouble!

There is no useful result here!

Mods & Admins have to close this Thread!

No.

Beefee posted:

marodi posted:

Beefee posted:

This Thread is growing to an incredible size of senselessness and trouble!

There is no useful result here!

Mods & Admins have to close this Thread!

No.

do it.. do it

No!

Trent started it and he has all the options we mods have, including the one to lock a thread. He'll lock it when he feels like it.

Or people could stop posting in it and let it die.