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06/11/09 8:42 AM

raintime posted:
Justnin9 posted:
Redundant stupidity ensues.

Stupidity? Smartassery? It's just my opinion. No need to be bitter.

Nothing against you...I just like making up words. Its funny to see all sides of the issue.

 

06/11/09 8:47 AM

Dear Trent Reznor,

I'd like to say a heartfelt thank you for the following: Pretty Hate Machine 1989 when I was 19. NIN/Soundgarden show, Barrie, ON 1994. Fragile Tour, Auburn Hills 2000. NINJA, Toronto 2009. Most importantly, progressing musically, wearing your emotions on your sleeve, and doing your own thing, and surviving.

It amazes me that, here we are, in an open forum, that you've taken the time to establish, and anyone, people like me, have the opportunity to even communicate with you. I almost feel a sense of guilt, in that, it doesn't really seem right you know. I feel that really it's a violation of your pesonal space. And I hate feeling guilty, but it's true. The fact that you've taken the time to allow the public to access you personally, with this level of intimacy, is admirable, and it takes a certain level of courage. But I don't want to sound like a kissass.

I can understand why you would feel like shutting it down though, because, like any public figure, it's not like they go around giving out their personal phone numbers or email adresses. I guess in any community, whether it be online or "real", there are good people and bad. Like Warren Buffet said once about one of the benefits of being him, "One of the things I can do is, because of my position, is choose who I want to spend my time with. If I don't like people, I don't have to spend time with them". I'm paraphrasing, but you understand. A friend from the past had a theory that went like, "everyone is an idiot until they prove otherwise", and with each passing year, I subscribe to this theory more and more. Not by giving attitude, just keeping it in the back of my mind. Another quote that I like is from Joe Strummer, who said "I do everything in life with a punk rock attitude", and probably pissed off with being misunderstood by that type of comment continued with, "in fact, punk rock (ethos) means, exemplary manners to your fellow human being".

What a statement, in the end we all want to be loved and accepted, by someone, somewhere, sometime. Whether by our children, or significant other, somebody. The bottom line is, people should just be nicer to each other. By sending hate mail, messaqes, etc. it's an expression of self hate, and people who do that should seek out help, in order to save themselves and others from their hateful existence. People end up hurting themselves equally when they spew hatred to others, it's a fact. I just wanted to say my bit because I saw recently that you were getting tormented by some idiots, and that's just not right.

Trent, within my family, we've been busy having kids the last few years and I lost touch with NIN. Now I'm discovering all this stuff like the slip, and ghosts (love it) via you website. It's awesome, thank you so much, on behalf of myself and all the other fans who have been with you since the beginning. You are an inspiration to me. In fact, it was Jack White who inspired me to pick up a guitar, and now I find myself googling "modular synthesizers".

From my family to yours, we wish you all the happiness life can offer in your new path. Have lots of kids, it's the best thing in the world.

 

06/11/09 8:49 AM

Thank you TR for an amzing show and allowing us to meet with you. Take as much time as you need God knows you deserve it. My friend and I will wait for your return which I am sure will be amazing......WITH MUCH LOVE

 

06/11/09 8:55 AM

I used to read Metal Sludge because it was funny. Then, The NIN/Def Leppard groupies got SCARY. They might be insulting Trent now, but deep down, they're thrilled to know he's paid ANY attention to what they say, whether his response was negative or positive.

It's sad to think they feel it's ok to insult and threaten he and Q. Anyone that obsessed isn't a fan, they're a psycho, and need to get serious help. Back when I read Metal Sludge, there would be a new NIN thread every other week, and then, it would be taken down because there were threats. Not just "ahahah, I'll kill anyone who Trent dates. j/k!" it was stuff like "I will stalk he and his girlfriend, and I will MAKE him love me!"

There was one person on there who had convinced herself that she was married to Robbin Crosby (from RATT), who died in the 90's.

I'm not a skinny girl, myself, but Trent was spot on about some of those women on Metal Sludge. They are mostly large, aging women, who fantasize about being starf#ckers. With there being no proof necessary to post a so-called "experience" with a rock star, these women sometimes create elaborate stories about rock stars that they have supposedly been with. Nine times out of ten, they're untrue.

Metal Sludge is a cesspool.

Ignore the haters, do your thing, and go be happy with that fabulous Q! I honestly hope you guys are happy forever, and have lots of babies! You two will have gorgeous kids!

Thanks for a great 20 years, and congrats on your sobriety. That is a HUGE accomplishment!



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 06/11/2009 09:10AM by rockchick75.

 

06/11/09 10:01 AM

Just keep us updated on the things you want us to know about and we'll be happy. Meanwhile, go spend as much time with Q as you possibly can!

 

06/11/09 9:03 AM

Trent Reznor said:

DOING some cool new shit and spending as much time as possible with the most amazing woman in the world. posted:

True fans will always be there , an amazing women is hard to come by and can't be ignored..

 

06/11/09 10:19 AM

trent_reznor posted:
Just glanced at this stuff. May I clarify:
I have no issue with PLUMP people and I apologize if some of you incorrectly inferred I was equating being overweight to being unworthy. I used that term for two reasons: one - these cunts on MS portray themselves as in a very inaccurate way, because they can. It's their one place they can wield a little power and escape their pathetic lives. Two - I knew it would hurt them and it most definitely has.
Place my comments in context. If you haven't seen the type of comments we've been getting and the sheer level of ignorance, you have no reference in which to comment on this.

I know MOST of you are not a part of this and I didn't mean to offend you - this situation has angered and saddened me.

And THAT is it from me on this topic.

Are you the reason why my post mysteriously disappeared?

I only said what I said because I care. I really do want you to be happy. A mean person wouldn't say anything. He would just sit back and enjoy the show.

 

06/11/09 9:25 AM

mlilnly posted:
mcbowler posted:
Keep the idiots out.. Keep the music free and charge people to socialize. The money you make from charging people to visit your web site can be used for charity, with the main point of keeping low lifes at bay.

Hey, if the douches are paying to be in the front row at NIN shows, wouldn't they pay to talk shit online, too? Charity's a great idea, but I'm not much on paying to socialize. =/ Especially when I can do it for free elsewhere. Nice thought, though.

Well, there was The Spiral. . . and they did ban people there but I guess Trent tired of it and wanted to make everything free and open to the public. I doubt he'll go back to the way The Spiral was.

 

06/11/09 9:32 AM

I signed up just now to post on this one topic and be done. I've been a long time fan of the band, the music and the general emotions it stirs. I'm glad you're taking a hiatus, but delving into the online communities, reading the responses and sharing more of yourself is a pretty dumb move, IMHO. Stars, whether they be in music, in film, or in print have a tendency to blubber when things don't turn out all roses and they start to question all the motives of crazed fans. Simply put, you're bitter and so are all the delusional fans that think they had a shot at some Trent attention. You're just a guy with talent, lots of poor slobs like you out in the world, it's hardly shocking that you can't step back and let the shit fall where it may. Hopefully you will, but getting sucked into it is only human. Why people build up so much angst or passion for artists that get lucky and become popular is beyond the scope of anything you'd find in forum responses. If anything, you can't have your cake and eat it too, you can't expect to have deep enlightening conversations and be Trent Reznor of NIN. If you want that type of thing, you should be just another guy that posts on some corner of the web with a bunch of other random people. As far as knowing anyone's credentials, the great thing about the interwebs is that you can just be anon and not have to succumb to visions of what people THINK you are. Hopefully you can chill with your woman, step back and be with some peace and quiet for awhile. Best of luck to ya and just smile, rinse and repeat.

 

06/11/09 9:35 AM

I hope you realize some us were just jerking you around with @ messages, though I suppose we weren't the ones sending you and mariqueen 5000 messages a day.

 

06/11/09 9:37 AM

The only thing you need to worry about right now is this:

important #1

and this:

important#2

In the words of Kathy Griffin...everyone else can SUCK IT!

Love and happiness to you both.

~Melissa

 

06/11/09 9:41 AM

Oh..and I forgot this. It pretty much sums it up.

you know....

 

06/11/09 9:44 AM

Hey, glad to hear you're happy. smiling smiley When it comes down to it, that's all that matters.

Thanks for all the years of amazing music... and the fantastic shows (like June 7th! DAMN.) Thanks for it... all of it.

leo3375 posted:
Just keep us updated on the things you want us to know about and we'll be happy. Meanwhile, go spend as much time with Q as you possibly can!

Yes!

Best wishes to the both of you! You deserve every happiness.

 

06/11/09 10:45 AM

This has become ugly and very toxic. Look for the jewels in the mud, dig a little deeper. Let this go...I hate to say this but you will become them if you continue. I am sorry, but I just had to say this to you. I am very saddened by all of this, no matter what wonderful things have been said here by everyone who truly cares about you and your well being.

Rina Maria Garcia-Allen

 

06/11/09 9:46 AM

trent_reznor posted:
Just glanced at this stuff. May I clarify:
I have no issue with PLUMP people and I apologize if some of you incorrectly inferred I was equating being overweight to being unworthy. I used that term for two reasons: one - these cunts on MS portray themselves as in a very inaccurate way, because they can. It's their one place they can wield a little power and escape their pathetic lives. Two - I knew it would hurt them and it most definitely has.
Place my comments in context. If you haven't seen the type of comments we've been getting and the sheer level of ignorance, you have no reference in which to comment on this.

I know MOST of you are not a part of this and I didn't mean to offend you - this situation has angered and saddened me.

And THAT is it from me on this topic.


Good.
Now they can all focus on the glorious drama that is.

I'll wager there's a good 50 pages by tomorrow at midnight in this thread.

Blueberry?

 

06/11/09 9:46 AM

Well it's definitely a shame that too many [the fans] loose because of a small minority [the idiots]. However it was an amazing experiment. I for sure enjoyed it while it last.. Respect and admiration to a great an inspiring guy. That's you ...

See you soon in whatever the next step it'll be.

Thank you
Koggi

 

06/11/09 9:47 AM

happinessinslavery69 posted:
Trent Reznor said:

DOING some cool new shit and spending as much time as possible with the most amazing woman in the world. posted:

True fans will always be there , an amazing women is hard to come by and can't be ignored..

Hey, us amazing women aren't THAT difficult to find :-)

Seriously though- Trent can hole up in a cave for the rest of his life for all I care as long as he continues to make music.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/11/2009 09:47AM by LBoogie.

 

06/11/09 9:52 AM

Well that's a very sweet apology...I understood the art of war concept...I guess dynamics of all perpetrators was not neccessary. I am vuluputous myself so it made me think for a minute. Target? Racism? confusing...Metal...My mind was pondering on reality shows and the vixens I've seen chasing rock stars. That description didn't fit my visuals. It's not about my visuals,but yours and what you've seen. I hope they didn't give you and your lady nitemares. I get it..thanks for the clarity.

 

06/11/09 9:53 AM

I Don't think TR is really all that bothered over the bull shit that people have been saying about him on Twitter and PM's on NIN.com.I really don't.Trent wants to keep his fans engaged and thinking about him and NIN.It's a very good marketing tactic.A lot of what he says is just him saying something ''JUST'' to be saying something and get a rise out of us.Trent LOVES this stuff. He likes how we make such a BIG deal out of whatever he says.It's tickles him. Trust me this dude couldn't care less about what these peoople(losers) are saying about him on Twitter. I'm sure it don't bother him one bit.

 

06/11/09 9:57 AM

I should never have clicked on TR's twitter link. But I did, and I'm here. I will admit that I only skimmed.

Whether or not he continues to tweet or interact, whatever, I am not all that concerned. I enjoyed his tweets (as much as I enjoy just about any celebrity I follow - Brent Spiner, Nathan Fillion, Mindy Kaling), but if he stops that's ok. I was really excited to see all of the money raised for Eric and the awareness that was brought to the issue. But honestly it's his life, and the thirty seconds a day you or I read his tweets might just as easily be expended on other interwebs time-wasting.

As far as the Metalsludge nonsense goes, been there, seen it, ran away in horror. It's just a collective of really sad, deluded people who are preoccupied with the lives of people that are "unreachable". It's one of those places you go and read out of the sheer train wreck factor. I'm sorry that those, ahem, ladies were so caustic that it actually impacted anyone's life. I don't doubt for one second that they are making racist, misogynistic statements about TR's fiancee. They're bitter people, it's what they do. I bet they're over there now stuffing down Ding Dongs and talking about how misogynistic TR's "fat" comments are in one breath and making misogynistic comments about TR's fiancee in the other breath. They're not so bright, so they will fail to see the hypocrisy. In my opinion, the best way to handle those, um, ladies, is to make fun of them, but not engage them. I think eventually they'll give up their TR fixation and move on to some other poor schlub, who will hopefully learn a lesson from this episode and not poke Jaba with a stick, if you know what I mean.

Meanwhile, let's all wish Trent a happy future, and let's look forward to whatever the next step is in his artistic journey. And then let's get a sandwich, and lead normal productive lives where we're not obsessed 24/7 with any one single band/musician/actor/writer/plumber. Deal?

 

06/11/09 9:57 AM

My two cents:

I run my blog, etc like a dictatorship so interaction is minimal, especially with "annoyances" whom I delete without curiosity...they just cease to exist. I have said many times that Twitter allows people to develop a false sense of intimacy on both sides that can backfire big time for any number of reasons. As far as getting heated at fools on the Internet, as someone who had to deal with just one real world stalker for a number of years I offer this advice. These folks will always piss you off in ways you never imagined but you can't ever let them know it. Anything you say,scream or threaten sounds like the teacher from Charlie Brown to them; all they care about is that they got you to pay attention. To any and all, my advice is to always be careful that in your anger you don't inadvertently extend an invitation to these whack-jobs, bigots, etc to continue negative behaviors. If they even suspect that they may have, kinda, sorta, gotten you to pay attention they will be unrelenting in their attacks.

 

06/11/09 11:08 AM

trent_reznor posted:
Just glanced at this stuff. May I clarify:
I have no issue with PLUMP people and I apologize if some of you incorrectly inferred I was equating being overweight to being unworthy.

That's exactly how I took it (retaliation against MS and the horrible comments you and Mariqueen receive), but the comment still lingered. Either way, thanks for the apology. I've been trying to ween off status updates myself, and failing. Good luck to you!

 

06/11/09 10:10 AM

Demonseed25 posted:
I Don't think TR is really all that bothered over the bull shit that people have been saying about him on Twitter and PM's on NIN.com.I really don't.Trent wants to keep his fans engaged and thinking about him and NIN.It's a very good marketing tactic.A lot of what he says is just him saying something ''JUST'' to be saying something and get a rise out of us.Trent LOVES this stuff. He likes how we make such a BIG deal out of whatever he says.It's tickles him. Trust me this dude couldn't care less about what these peoople(losers) are saying about him on Twitter. I'm sure it don't bother him one bit.

and that's why you're an idiot. Just because Trent is in the public eye, doesn't mean he is no longer human and hateful shit doesn't hurt his feelings. People keep saying he should have a "thicker skin" but, you know, some people are just sensitive by nature and can't "just grow a thicker skin" and shit always has, and always will bother them. You can ignore it, sure, but it deosn't mean it still doesn't make you feel like shit.

Metal Sludge is a waste of internet, and the people who post over there are SCUM. I have a personal grudge with those douches from a few years back, and I am SO GLAD that Trent just called them out. FUCK METAL SLUDGE.

 

06/11/09 10:11 AM

last post is cool T. see you in Milan.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/11/2009 11:28AM by pinocchio.

 

06/11/09 10:24 AM

I tried, I GAVE UP.

 

06/11/09 10:35 AM

halo_smyth posted:
On another note here are always going to be internet trolls who try and start shit, but if mariqueen didn't make random comments like "All the people in fatburger are ugly, I wonder if it's a coincidence" she wouldn't come off as a spoiled shallow girl from the hills (that's mild compared to what I am thinking), and people wouldn't treat her that way.

Yes, the "fatburger" remark really pissed me off, as well.

 

06/11/09 11:42 AM

bored labrat

 

06/11/09 10:48 AM

lucreziag posted:
halo_smyth posted:
On another note here are always going to be internet trolls who try and start shit, but if mariqueen didn't make random comments like "All the people in fatburger are ugly, I wonder if it's a coincidence" she wouldn't come off as a spoiled shallow girl from the hills (that's mild compared to what I am thinking), and people wouldn't treat her that way.

Yes, the "fatburger" remark really pissed me off, as well.
then don't read her updates. It's simple people..if you don't like it, don't read or get the updates.
Call me an asshole but I think a lot of people on here are taking this a bit too seriously. Of course he did not mean all "plump people". And it is true, the crazy chicks who are bothering them are big ugly girls...with the exception of 1 so far lol
If people here taking so much offense to this then I would say you need to work on some self esteem issues and maybe the internet is not the best place to do so. That is the truth. and no I don't hate fat people at all..but it disturbs me that so many people were so offended by this when you really shouldn't be.
Don't live your life worrying about what others think of you...if you do you'll miss a lot of things. Even if he did say "your all ugly blah blah" then that is his perogative and who cares. He is just another human being.

Seriously, if he called me an ugly cunt would I care? No cause my hubbie to be thinks I'm a pretty cunt!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/11/2009 10:50AM by Calderon08.

 

06/11/09 11:00 AM

Calderon08 posted:
lucreziag posted:
halo_smyth posted:
On another note here are always going to be internet trolls who try and start shit, but if mariqueen didn't make random comments like "All the people in fatburger are ugly, I wonder if it's a coincidence" she wouldn't come off as a spoiled shallow girl from the hills (that's mild compared to what I am thinking), and people wouldn't treat her that way.

Yes, the "fatburger" remark really pissed me off, as well.
then don't read her updates. It's simple people..if you don't like it, don't read or get the updates.
Call me an asshole but I think a lot of people on here are taking this a bit too seriously. Of course he did not mean all "plump people". And it is true, the crazy chicks who are bothering them are big ugly girls...with the exception of 1 so far lol
If people here taking so much offense to this then I would say you need to work on some self esteem issues and maybe the internet is not the best place to do so. That is the truth. and no I don't hate fat people at all..but it disturbs me that so many people were so offended by this when you really shouldn't be.
Don't live your life worrying about what others think of you...if you do you'll miss a lot of things. Even if he did say "your all ugly blah blah" then that is his perogative and who cares. He is just another human being.

Seriously, if he called me an ugly cunt would I care? No cause my hubbie to be thinks I'm a pretty cunt!

You are a pretty cunt. Can I be a pretty cunt too?

~~~~~~~

Seriously, people need to learn to shut the fuck up and leave the guy alone. If you don't like what he's doing, that's fine, but there's no need to be a dick about it.

 

06/11/09 11:00 AM

Calderon08 posted:
lucreziag posted:
halo_smyth posted:
On another note here are always going to be internet trolls who try and start shit, but if mariqueen didn't make random comments like "All the people in fatburger are ugly, I wonder if it's a coincidence" she wouldn't come off as a spoiled shallow girl from the hills (that's mild compared to what I am thinking), and people wouldn't treat her that way.

Yes, the "fatburger" remark really pissed me off, as well.
then don't read her updates. It's simple people..if you don't like it, don't read or get the updates.
Call me an asshole but I think a lot of people on here are taking this a bit too seriously. Of course he did not mean all "plump people". And it is true, the crazy chicks who are bothering them are big ugly girls...with the exception of 1 so far lol
If people here taking so much offense to this then I would say you need to work on some self esteem issues and maybe the internet is not the best place to do so. That is the truth. and no I don't hate fat people at all..but it disturbs me that so many people were so offended by this when you really shouldn't be.
Don't live your life worrying about what others think of you...if you do you'll miss a lot of things. Even if he did say "your all ugly blah blah" then that is his perogative and who cares. He is just another human being.

Seriously, if he called me an ugly cunt would I care? No cause my hubbie to be thinks I'm a pretty cunt!

^^ that.

 
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