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06/11/09 4:53 PM

jayetheartist posted:
*kneels, looks up at sky*

If there's a god up there, or a genie that grants wishes, or aliens that exist in a far-off galaxy or another dimension, or a cosmic concept that allows for the granting of wishes, could you please send all the idiots away? I'd ask for you to give them the smarts to be able to read a post and understand what's being said, or common sense, or the understanding that the world isn't about them, but that's complicated and even more unlikely than you actually existing. So can you just do the easy thing and smite all of them? Then maybe the forums can be fun again like they were back before the gift and the wave goodbye post and the Twitter account and the tour. I won't promise to give my life over to you or anything, but I'd think it was pretty damn bitchin'. Thanks.

This is why I love you.

I miss my pony parts, sandwiches, dick in the boxes and OMG ITS TOTALLY GONNA BE A LITS TOUR DVD. It did used to be fun. WTF?

 

06/11/09 4:54 PM

Oh and I still have dibs on the hoof.

 

06/11/09 4:54 PM

Edited because there's no need for me to get involved in all this.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/11/2009 05:18PM by pleatherface.

 

06/11/09 5:00 PM

Why are some people taking so seriously the "cut your veins this way" post by Trent? I don't think that he is being (too) serious, as far as I know there are a lot of boards were saying "kill yourself" or whatever is not considered a serious threat. If it was, I would have had to sue half of the ETS members too many times. tongue sticking out smiley

 

06/11/09 5:07 PM

Sorry that a few assholes ruined it for you, but just because the actual sane fans out there aren't spamming you with love mail every day doesn't mean that we don't love you just as much as those 3-4 hate you.

We'll miss hearing from you as often as we already do.

 

06/11/09 5:07 PM

I've had to too much self respect to sign up for Twitter, but had nearly caved in recent times due to your participation. Thanks for saving me the trouble!

 

06/11/09 5:11 PM

So happy that you are happy. Fuck everyone else. Looking forward to whatever you bring us in the future, in whatever form. Take care of you and your sweetie. smiling smiley

 

06/11/09 5:14 PM

The real fans just want you to be happy, Trent!!! I know I wish you well with the engagement , the rest of the tour & the break. Don't let those haters & low lives bring you down b/c then you have let them win.

I saw you guys live @ the start up of NINJA tour in West Palm Beach & I'm so sad you guys are leaving for awhile after this....but you probably need the break, so enjoy! Your "lights in the sky" tour was pretty epic as well. I'm glad I was blessed enough to even catch those 2 shows. THANK YOU for getting Jane's Addiction on the bill for the latest tour, they are so AMAZING as well & it's great to see them back together. Also I appreciate that you guys relaxed the "no cameras" thing @ the shows so we could all get some goodbye pics.

I pray that lots of peace and happiness flows your way & that all the negativity won't get you down. <3 <3

 

06/11/09 5:23 PM

HOLY CRAP. Now people think Trent has insulted all his "fat" fans! No. None of them. JUST AndreaUrbanFuck or whatever.

Also, if you don't like Mariqueen, Trent won't hate you, but don't hate on her if you don't know her, because then Trent has every right to attack you if you don't know shit about what you say.

To question the legitimacy of Eric's condition is so terrible, and is not needed.

I say to hell with these silly people, Trent.

 

06/11/09 5:24 PM

I make a web series with my girlfriend, so I've learned a lot about the internet. It's a mean place, but people are mean, you know? My girlfriend and I have received the most bizarrely sick comments on our videos. Sometimes they're amusing. We have people that will create fake profiles to try to trick us into thinking they're not who they are. I've been called a "fagit" (general misspelling) and I've been told to "go kill myself". Point is, the internet is a place where the fans can communicate directly with the artists, and that's difficult. The rock star is less of a God. He's more like Jesus Christ now. But, fuck, is that such a bad thing? I love the good fans, the people that like our videos for what they are, and leave us nice comments. I write fans back long letters and shit. As for the negative comments, I just delete them because they were probably left by a thirteen year-old or someone like Christopher Lloyd from One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. Life is painful, and reading nasty things on the internet has thickened my skin a little bit. In a way, it's a good thing.

I've been a huge fan of yours since Pretty Hate Machine. You were my first real concert. I bought your instrumentals online last year and used it as the music for a ton of short films. You could do a record where the cover is you popping out of a giant birthday cake with pasties on your nipples and I'd buy the shit. And I'd like it because that's where you'd be at that point in your life. I'm glad you're in your love. I'm sorry if Twitter disillusioned some of your fans. They might spew venom, but they'll cop the next record you put out. And life will go on the way it always has except we'll be on keyboards a lot more. And you're brighter than me so why am I writing this? I admire the way you reach out into the community through the internet. I never sign up for message boards and write shit to famous people, but your blog moved me. Don't hate us, Trent, but at the same time, do whatever floats your boat.

Love,

Alex (youtube.com/rickyshoresings)

 

06/11/09 5:26 PM

jayetheartist posted:
*kneels, looks up at sky*

If there's a god up there, or a genie that grants wishes, or aliens that exist in a far-off galaxy or another dimension, or a cosmic concept that allows for the granting of wishes, could you please send all the idiots away? I'd ask for you to give them the smarts to be able to read a post and understand what's being said, or common sense, or the understanding that the world isn't about them, but that's complicated and even more unlikely than you actually existing. So can you just do the easy thing and smite all of them? Then maybe the forums can be fun again like they were back before the gift and the wave goodbye post and the Twitter account and the tour. I won't promise to give my life over to you or anything, but I'd think it was pretty damn bitchin'. Thanks.

YOU ARE SO RIGHT

I DIDN´T REALIZE THIS SITE HAS DIED A LITTLE.

Or maybe a lot?

We used to have fun here, make dorks of ourselves, drool over Trent´s pictures, invent silly threads, cheer up one another, support the band. We used to discuss all kinds of stuff (remember the torture thing). I don´t post as frequently as many of you guys, but I do come here to have a good time, so my use of the term "we" is purely rethorical.

Then the "wave goodbye thing" gets this crazy reaction, then the engagement announcement seems to have some strange effect and everything else changes.

*Sigh* *blah*

 

06/11/09 5:28 PM

Thanks Trent. We - I appreciate you decided "to lower the curtain a bit" and to interact more with your fans. However:

1 - I´m sure you receive (and have received trough the years ) more love and good e-mail from the NIN community than bad. Please, don´t focus just on the bad side.

2 - It´s ok if you are happy in your personal life. I just think (and that´s my opinion) that we don´t need to have so many "information" - it´s quite "corny" at times (don´t know if that´s the right word, sorry, my english is limited)

 

06/11/09 5:35 PM

Everyone just needs to watch I'm a Celebrity and thank our lucky stars we are not living in a campsite in Costa Rica with Janice Dickenson. HUGZ AND LOVE COOMBAYA

 

06/11/09 5:35 PM

In the words of Metallica....
"No more, The crap rolls out your mouth again Haven't changed, your brain is still gelatin
Little whispers circle around your head [u]Why don't you worry about yourself instead" .... ...

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU DID FOR ERIC AND your FANS....FUCK FredFuckFaceWhateverHisLastFuckingNameIs and Metal Sludge....never heard of them but can see that I'm missing NOTHING....tell Mariqueen...they're jealous bitches who will still be up to the same old bullshit when you two are getting GRANDCHILDREN! ...the headlines will read," SAME OLD HAGS UP TO THE SAME OLD SHIT"

With everything that I've read that you've been through,,,,this is definitely the small stuff.. ...these people are MISERABLE FUCKS...obviously not happy in their OWN lives....doesn't this asswipe think that you and Mariqueen getting engaged would be ENOUGH publicity without having to tell everyone that your SELFLESS ACT was in fact selfish?

Thank you for EVERYTHING....I wanted to tell you that when I met you in NY but just cried instead...LOL....you signed my arm...I made it into a tattoo....it's awesome.......Thank you for the best and most innovative music in a REALLY LONG TIME...Thank you for getting me through the death of my father, my most awesome grandmother and two of my beloved pets within a few months of each other AND 20 years of a lot of hard times in which I turned to Nine Inch Nails to get me through....MOST of all....thank you for being a seemingly RIGHTEOUS GUY...it's not easy to find that in a world full of "ME". I do hope that you will keep putting out music even though you are not touring anymore......You've inspired me in so many ways....I go to New Orleans twice a year since Katrina to volunteer for ARNO (animal rescue) because 10 years ago, I wanted to check out your house and fell in love with NOLA.......your music and your being have brought SO MUCH GOOD to SO MANY PEOPLE and you deserve to get some back....both of you - keep on Rockin' in the free world and please be happy.....
Jodi Albert (A fan FOREVER)
New York

 

06/11/09 5:38 PM

Lol @ stupidity and people who freak out over another human being insulting people who've insulting him & his.

"Fan" fail.

 

06/11/09 5:50 PM

I was amazing, truly very special indeed, to have you live on Twitter. Even though you never replied to me [hey, you're a busy guy with a LOT of people saying a lot of things] I liked to think that maybe one of my comments made life a little easier.
I seriously doubt there could be any musician I respect as much as you. The way you've gone forth and tried to change the entire industry is breathtaking and I have, by choice, paid as much for your music as I could afford. It's worth much more than I could afford. *You* are worth more than mere money could ever equate anyway.

There are many scummy people out there, but I hope you know that they are vastly outnumbered by people who love and deeply appreciate every thing you do and try to do.

May your relationship endure and be everything you want it to be. Few could deserve that happiness more.

Peace out.

 

06/11/09 5:53 PM

TR: Most of us here (a majority) agree with you & appreciate what you have done since the Spiral. Some of us have been effected & benefited through it directly.

I tend to steer clear of this realm (the interweb) mainly because of the type of people you describe in your post. I hover & lurk to find out what is going on (in terms of releases, gigs, etc), but hardly ever, if ever comment, because I have experienced all too often the characters that you describe above - take comfort in the fact that NIN are not the only band that attract such strange people.

Roll on Manchester, London, & Sonisphere, and then on into the future... whatever it brings us...

 

06/11/09 6:03 PM

romeo_void posted:
the longer this thread goes, the more i love Prag's idea's of an identity verification system.

^ this +1

 

06/11/09 6:11 PM

This is my feeling.. if it's unpleasantness, please forgive me....

Love (even if it's any type) sometimes be defeated.... but,
Kindness (even if it's any type) always win.

Somewhat Sympathy will make it better sometime in the near future.

I still believe it.

 

06/11/09 7:14 PM

I realize that this will probably never get read, but I wanted to give my opinion for once.

Seeing you twitter was really great. Ive always loved the music. The music has grown with me through that scared little middle school girl trying to find her own path in music to the grown woman I am today who loves where the music was as well as how it evolved. I watched you evolve through that music, through those lyrics. Every time a new CD was released, I got a little closer to your soul, and it just happened that mine was in a similar place at the time. When music affects a person like me who actually thinks, we wonder what kind of person is behind it. Who is that man who is so similar to my soul? Why are our souls alike? What are our actual similarities and differences. Thats what makes the fan. We began to research to find out why our souls are so similar, and where this music is coming from, what your background is; all to see a similarity in ourselves. The music reflects the fan. Music defines us. I truly believe that. Every time I meet a person, I usually know whether we will get along or not by simply the music they listen to.

So, I have been that fan. I loved twitter because we did get to se this super great side of you. I learned that it didnt matter what you were really like in real life. What mattered the most, was you were human; like me. You were sarcastic, knew love, knew hurt, knew humor, knew humility, and you were just trying to live this life, just as we are. After all, were all somewhat damaged. Right? I appreciate that you took the time to expose yourself to the world in such an honest way. It was really great to see the human that lives inside of you. I enjoyed meeting that side of you. Does it matter what my perception was before seeing this side of you? No. I had no expectations. I just wanted to see the human side of that soul that was similar to mine. I learned he was similar to me, and very different, but I enjoyed it all....even the romantic comedy suggestions.

So, thank you I guess. Thank you for being in my life all these years in all the capacities you have been there. You dont know me as a human, and I realize there is no way for you to get to know all your fans. Im just happy to have the music. REALLY. I cant imagine what person I would have turned into with having your music so strongly impact my soul. Whatever you do or whereever you go and with whomever you go with, realize that people just like me are out here who have always had your back, and not only supported, but understood your decisions.

I want to comment on those fat people on the front row at every show. Its really hard for other NIN fans, like myself, who cant afford or do not choose to "tour with them" to be able to see our favorite band in the front row. Im lucky to get to even be there. So, fuck you for always being soooo fucking rude to those of us who were trying to get there for a show at a decent time so we could be front row, then your other million friends show up, and hop in front of us since ONE person was in front of us. Its rude, and I think you should all know that. However, I was lucky enough to be on the front row in 2006. Im glad for that. but you assholes, really do make it hard for others. Kudos to you Trent, for calling them out, and knowing what they are doing. I went to the Atlanta show on this tour, and being a lesbian, was utterly amazed at how ugly the fans are. My wife and I joked that we were happy not to have to look into that crowd every night seeing those same people we always saw because we were trying to be front row. I am going tomorrow night, but I have seats. So, assholes who have seen every show in the front row, give someone else a chance for once.

Now that I got that out of my system....I wish you all the happiness in the world with Mariqueen. Shes on my twitter also and you both seem like awesome, down to earth, terrific, and happily in love people. The REAL world is what matters.....and it was nice to see a little of yours and hers. Thanks. Ill be looking forward to all your future endeavors. Ive been a fan since PHM was given to me on a bus to the fine arts center to sing, and Ill remain a fan, Im sure. Youve changed.....and everyone does. Im glad to meet you. Thank you.

Ill see you tomorrow night in Charlotte in my seats, and Ill be smiling! Ill be happy as hell just to be there.



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06/11/09 6:17 PM

Trent, if you're reading this (which I hope you're enjoying happier things in the real world), thank you for all you've shared.

I've written an entry in my own blog about hatred via internet, and used the experience you've shared with us as an example: [is.gd]

Thanks again, all who have shared (positively) in this experiment. It's still a pretty cool thing.

 

06/11/09 6:23 PM

Hey good for you Trent!!! Screw all those lame ass people who have nothing better to do than piss, moan and criticize. I've been a NIN fan for a very long time, and have enjoyed the musical/interactive experiences you have given us. Its been great to see you grow both as a musician and as a person. I am glad you are not the same person you were before. Your speech before La Mer in Mansfield was very moving, and I felt honored that you shared it with us. Though I will admit I am VERY sad to see NIN go away(for however long), its been one hell of a ride. So go be in love and HAPPY, if anyone deserves it it is YOU!!! Don't worry we'll all be here for you if and when you decide to return.

 

06/11/09 6:24 PM

In hopes that you may actually see this, I'd like to share a few thoughts with you, TR. Sincerely, I think you are a very creative and intelligent man. I've enjoyed your music since I was exposed to TDS when I was about 13 or 14. The older I get, the more I'm drawn to NIN. I believe much of that has to do with how much you as an individual have grown along with the rest of us. There's an honest and strong redemptive quality to the vast majority of the material that speaks to different life experiences. Some ass hats choose to call progress like that selling out, other people appreciate it. I'm glad you're not the same person and that NIN isn't the same product - the growth makes it interesting. Don't get me wrong, I still blast PHM, but if all of your new material sounded like that, what's the point? And if you're not working on enjoying yourself and being happy as an individual, you're just wasting time. I'm very happy for you.

I respect your desire to pull back with all of the hate in general. In an echo of many of the posts here and all of the money you've raised for Eric, I think a vast majority of us have enjoyed getting to know you some over the last few years quite a bit. Hell, I'd give you $300 for any cause to sit down and bullshit with you over dinner. That however, is another discussion all together.

I'm very much so looking forward to what ever it is you do next. I have found myself saying that I'd love to work for you very often recently. I'm not sure what I do or how I could help but the point is I'm sure that what ever is coming next will be clever, timely, and something of great interest. In the mean time, I wish you peace and happiness. I've enjoyed having you as a part of my life and look forward to the next adventure.

 

06/11/09 6:27 PM

Has anybody said "This fucking sucks" because THIS FUCKING SUCKS!!! It was good while it lasted. I can understand why he wants to let things go and concentrate on his life. No sense in being pissed off all the time at people you can't punch in the face. Easier and better for the blood pressure to ignore them. I hope you and Mariqueen find what you both seek, Trent. Or some mystical bullshit thing.

 

06/11/09 6:32 PM

trent_reznor posted:

Looks like the Metal Sludge contingency has discover Twitter! Finally! For those of you that don't know what this is, please let me explain. Metal Sludge is the home of the absolutely worst people I've ever come across. It's populated mainly by unattractive plump females who publicly fantasize about having sex with guys in bands. Kind of like a role-playing game where people NOBODY will fuck make up stories about their incredible sexual encounters with people they WISH they could fuck. It would be kind of funny in a sad and pathetic way except the fun doesn't stop there - hate and good old-fashioned outright blatant racism are also encouraged to spice things up and remind you how truly ugly these scourges are. TRULY ugly on the inside (the outside is obvious).
Cutter's tip for my friends there: remember to cut along the length of vein, not across. Bigger payoff.

"All you motherfuckers are gonna pay, You are the ones who are the ball-lickers. We're gonna fuck your mothers while you watch and cry like little bitches. Once we get to Hollywood and find those Miramax fucks who are making that movie, we're gonna make 'em eat our shit, then shit out our shit, then eat their shit which is made up of our shit that we made 'em eat. Then you're all fucking next."

Love,

Jay and Silent Bob (and Trent)


J/k...not really.

Love you.

 

06/11/09 6:32 PM

trent_reznor posted:
It's been an interesting experiment over the last couple of years or so.

Trent,

I don't know if you read these responses or not but, I figured I'd post my word in, as I have done in the past. I've been away from the interactive world for a little while finishing up some academic pursuits and closing the semester, so I missed this whole thing. I just caught up now. I am terribly sorry to see that the...er...fanatics...for lack of a better word, really offended you. I've always found fandom an interesting thing, as I've said countless times on twitter. Sometimes people take it to the limits and, well, you've seen the results.

There are idiots out there as well, as you know. I think the key is one must really tailor their social network to whom they wish to interact with. For example, I use twitter to catch with with fellow anthropological and historical colleagues and discuss research and literature. My experience has been different though, given that I'm not you so thousands aren't attracted to me (that is a good thing I think. I'd go mad. How you did it amazes me).

I am sorry you've been the target of so much venom. I think sometimes the younger fans are more in the moment since they haven't experienced aging an the changes and maturity that comes with that. Some haven't approached to crossroads yet either. I suppose they have more idealised views of their "idols" and when those views get shattered, well then...Then there are other fans, well you've experienced those.

I do hope this doesn't shade how you view all your fans. You do have many fans that are nice, sensible folks and many that are intellectuals. I'll fess up to saying that I write my lectures and research articles while listening to NIN.

You keep on keepin' and doing what you want. I've always liked NIN and always will. It changes as I grow. I can even listen to Pretty Hate Machine and I see it much differently now, than I did when I was a teen. That's the mark of genius. Don't ever loose it. You put out whatever you want, when you want. You've always got a supporter here.

It was interesting to read your tweets while they lasted, so thanks for that insight. From what I comprehend, you've always been a very private person, so thanks for those slight glimpses.

I wish you the best in your endeavors and I am very happy that you've found it. I think you know what I mean when I say it. Enjoy it fellow, cos life comes at us fast and at the end of it all, we're just left with the memories.

Best,
Dr. Bone Lady aka Bones



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06/11/09 6:39 PM

Bad thing is we are giving these pathetic onlines freakavoidz attention. But anyway actually the reason I signed in tonight is to say - Even if you don' t read this, just had to say CONGRATS on today being 8 years sober.!! Looking forward to M&G in Charlotte!
Vince from Florida / vthrash65

 

06/11/09 6:40 PM

re: fredfuckfaceetc

[twitter.com]
bio "I am just some guy, trying to keep up with this ever changing world" awhhhh diddums!

[www.youtube.com]
This is why I find it imposible not to like this band/TR

 

06/11/09 7:01 PM

I enjoy reading your tweets and seeing the "human" side to Mr. Reznor and it is a great way to connect with fans. This will be missed.

 

06/11/09 7:03 PM

I want to personally thank you for being so interactive. To be honest, I had never been to a concert before I'd seen NIN LiTS. I appreciated that you wanted to do something different and it drew me in. Though I have to admit, it's sort of heartbreaking to see you've been beaten down by it. Go out and enjoy life, you deserve it, man.

 
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