khareaulyn posted:

Zaeed_Massani posted:

GreyFox33 posted:

I feel this is probably the only soft/slow song on the ep that will wrap up the album. I look forward to M letting her voice open up and take control!

I wont fully judge till we get a listen to the full EP. We all should have faith cause Trent wouldnt be apart of something that was trash!

"A Drowning is fairly unlike the rest of the EP. The rest of it gets noisier.", that's what Trent Reznor wrote about it.

So I guess you might be right.

I hope you're right, though I like A Drowning, but without being very impressed.

WorzelG posted:

Can I just ask why the email addresses collected when signing up for HTDA aren't utilised. It's just that I know several people who, for whatever reason, don't do twitter / forums and it would be quite useful for them to be emailed when a clip comes out (they still hear from me but I'm sure there are others like this)

Anomalie posted:

I have been lurking for days, and listening to the single over and over, hoping that it would get better....

#1 Regarding Q's vocals I am reminded of something Dorothy Parker once said "She runs the gamut of emotions from A to B."



#2 The music itself seems like it could have been taken from left-over studio work from anytime in the last 4 years.

1+2= Fail.

If you are going to embark on a new project, push the boundries, go places you have never been before. I know that in the Q&A TR said that it sounds more NINish now then he thinks it will in the future. Perhaps then they should have let this gestate a little longer.

If they are going to make Q the "leader" of the project, which from the promo pics one would assume they are, shouldnt she also be the voice? Why is TR answering the question? Why not put her out there? I would like to hear what she has to say.

As far as the people who are having a hard time relating to Q as an artist, I understand where you are coming from. Some of the things that she has said, make me seriously question wiether she has the depth for real artistic integrity. Yes, I do think that people are intitled to have off moments, but by and far I have yet to find anything that proves that there is something there besides a nice body and a pretty face.

inesperfectdrug posted:

SO, my point is, to be detached, we probably would have to never look up Mariqueens life, and I believe that I wasn't the only one making that mistake in the past, and now we can't really "unsee" or "unlearn" what we did about her. So yes, detaching is near impossible, though I understand it's importance.

OMS posted:

inesperfectdrug posted:

SO, my point is, to be detached, we probably would have to never look up Mariqueens life, and I believe that I wasn't the only one making that mistake in the past, and now we can't really "unsee" or "unlearn" what we did about her. So yes, detaching is near impossible, though I understand it's importance.

I think maybe "detaching" is probably the wrong word. I think the best thing to do is to not judge based on a past life. Isn't that what everyone would want for themselves?

The way I see it, Q and TR started a new life when they married...so why can't we just start from there and look forward? It really isn't fair to judge anyone on what they did in the past, I know many of us don't of Trent (ie. drugs), why not apply the same to Mariqueen? I believe those that do are just being judgmental because they are not willing to keep an open mind or some psychological problem (ie. obsessiveness and whatnot).

Now, can we all just talk about HTDA, the music....and not HTDA, let's pick people apart?

fleighing posted:

EXCELLENT POINT.


And i also think HTDA needs its own subforum. its clearly a side project and not NIN. but more importantly, those who want to discuss the artwork or touring or individual songs can do so without reading through 50+ pages.

inesperfectdrug posted:

Moral posted:

because howtodestroyangels.com doesn't have a discussion forum yet, and nin discussion might as well be "trent" discussion... as that is how its been treated for years.

jayetheartist posted:

If it needs to be moved, the mods will move it. Let them worry about it.

I don't really agree with either of you, but ok. I understand there are mods that take care of matters like this, but still... I hear a bunch of fans telling everyone not to look at htda as we looked at nin, and yet here it is in the same section. If it is a different matter I do think it shouldn't be in here.
But sure, do what ever you want. I just really think that's kinda contradicting yourselves.


Now on topic, I hear a lot of people saying that we should "detach" the music from the artist, and I'd like to say that to some degree, I understand why, and agree, but I don't think that in this case it will be an easy thing to do. And I'm saying this because we are dealing with a bunch of NIN fans, that have followed Trent for years and want the best for him, and now there's a lady in the picture - and I do believe this relationship is the most "public" one -, and people get intrigued. I think it is obvious that people start digging into her live and start to relate the person to the music. At least that happened to me to some degree. I gave up on doing so because I saw how it affected how I "looked" at the music, and also because it was kinda stalk-ish of me.
SO, my point is, to be detached, we probably would have to never look up Mariqueens life, and I believe that I wasn't the only one making that mistake in the past, and now we can't really "unsee" or "unlearn" what we did about her. So yes, detaching is near impossible, though I understand it's importance.

jayetheartist posted:

Moral posted:

But sure, do what ever you want. I just really think that's kinda contradicting yourselves.

It's not up to us. That's why I suggested leaving it to the mods. It's not that big of a deal, really.

Moral posted:

but I can give a fuck about what color underwear he wears to bed

da905 posted:

Yes, many of Trent's fans are obsessed. In fact that's what drives the whole NIN movement, our presence here, heck, the music industry in general. And there are hundreds of examples of this right across the musical (and sporting) spectrum which are just as uncanny. But music is not created in a black box, it is emotive and ilicits an emotional response, so I see nothing wrong with these kinds of reactions (whatever they say about the protagonist). Yet I'm sure no-one means any harm by them, in fact ironically, they are symptomatic of our affection for Trent and our deep affection for his music.
Though the fact is our impression of Trent also comes from never having met him, yet we have built up a profile of him remotely - through interviews, pictures, what we share with each other, etc. This is an important and legitimate part of becoming (somebody's) fan. Who doesn't know where Trent was born, how old he is, and who his idols are?

So apologies for getting off topic. but while this behaviour may not seem entirely rational to some, it's unavoidable in most cases i fear. Fact is, there is no right or wrong... just forum rules to house what we think and control what we express.