LobotomyBaby posted:

you should read past interviews.
trent talks in detail about this.

atticus is a producer like trent.
he's always been credited as producer and programmer.
atticus works and manipulates audio...much like trent works with midi..
that's one reason they work well together.

i believe once trent has recorded with instruments..atticus's main role is most likely..an ultimate buffer..to see each instrument and sound gets all the good magical juice dropped out of it..possible.

i think it's safe to say..atticus ross isn't nin but the "air" around nin.

aha... so as for HTDA... i suppose it's assumed that he's also part producer then?

i guess the only way we'll find out is via the credits in the insert or booklet of the CD when it comes out in July...



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MrSelfEraser posted:

OnslaughtSix posted:

MrSelfEraser posted:

... but what about the phone???

WHO WAS PHONE?!

It's just an idea... I saw 3 strange shots in the video: the cigarette, the knife and the last one the telephone which is used by the blonde. I can't link it with anything

[knowyourmeme.com]

dont_know_if_want.jpg

I'm glad TR is making music again, as long as we get more NIN.

somestrangesaint posted:

LobotomyBaby posted:

you should read past interviews.
trent talks in detail about this.

atticus is a producer like trent.
he's always been credited as producer and programmer.
atticus works and manipulates audio...much like trent works with midi..
that's one reason they work well together.

i believe once trent has recorded with instruments..atticus's main role is most likely..an ultimate buffer..to see each instrument and sound gets all the good magical juice dropped out of it..possible.

i think it's safe to say..atticus ross isn't nin but the "air" around nin.

aha... so as for HTDA... i suppose it's assumed that he's also part producer then?

i guess the only way we'll find out is via the credits in the insert or booklet of the CD when it comes out in July...

Probably very safe to say.. They know their strengths and I'm sure they'll use them completely.

Are we as fans suppose "to fill the spaces in between?" I assume some have mentioned this already or dismissed it or whatever...but i feel that there is a story...maybe a hidden website (ala year zero game) something to be solved here...the barely ledgable print or newspaper, the old guy in bathroom, the blonde, the knife, the shoes...it's like a Clue game, nin style...i know there are some nin fanatics out there, that have way more time than most of us to figure it out!?!? Get cracking! Maybe there is nothing more to it...but that seems to underestimate the approach that HTDA could of easily taken. The lyrics of the song/previous history of hidden, innovative marketing/give u a reason to look, imo. Where are the Hardy Boys or the Fringe when u need them? Is www.ItWasAtticus.com taken?

OnslaughtSix posted:

MrSelfEraser posted:

OnslaughtSix posted:

MrSelfEraser posted:

... but what about the phone???

WHO WAS PHONE?!

It's just an idea... I saw 3 strange shots in the video: the cigarette, the knife and the last one the telephone which is used by the blonde. I can't link it with anything

[knowyourmeme.com]

^ rofl

yeah lots of tricky stuff in this video for sure. curious to see the theme behind the rest of the songs play out

"Blinding light illuminates the scene" might be something about love?

im broken with both eyes open screaming at the top of my lungs with no more blood to give and no more love to blind me.
4:50 AM Mar 10th, 2009 via web

from [twitter.com]

I've read through this thread and remember someone mentioning Mariqueen's tweet about "mermaid suicide", but I can't remember if they mentioned this tweet too.
I'm guessing she tweeted this while filming the video (yes, sherlock holmes here!)

Anyway, I keep listing to the song wondering what it's about. I'll think about the video's meaning some other time.

da905 posted:

grnthmb posted:

"Blinding light illuminates the scene" might be something about love?

im broken with both eyes open screaming at the top of my lungs with no more blood to give and no more love to blind me.
4:50 AM Mar 10th, 2009 via web

from [twitter.com]

I've read through this thread and remember someone mentioning Mariqueen's tweet about "mermaid suicide", but I can't remember if they mentioned this tweet too.
I'm guessing she tweeted this while filming the video (yes, sherlock holmes here!)

Anyway, I keep listing to the song wondering what it's about. I'll think about the video's meaning some other time.

Honey, i don't think HDA was even a flicker of an idea of a thought last March... could be wrong. Nice phrase though. The woman has nice poetry after all... even if it's only as prolific as a 150 character tweet.

Oh lookie there, I didn't even notice it said 2009. Hmm, maybe she was just fooling around with ideas and writing lyrics back then. I wonder when HDA was first conceived, now that you mention it.

OMS posted:

LobotomyBaby posted:

phicry7220 posted:

Well, maybe them being completely engulfed? What happens to atticus and the mystery blonde, or the guy in the Bathroom...the song just cuts out...it's like there's a build up and it's done...Could be the way the song is I guess

yeah, i'm surprised so many people are surprised that the song ends that way.
it's not unlike trent to be like trent

Exactly.

And as I see it, Atticus and the blonde don't seem too bothered that the room is quickly becoming an inferno, not to mention full of smoke. It's as if they know they won't get away with the murders so they are resigned to the fact they will parish, too.

OK, one thing that does bother me...in the beginning, the entry doors to the rooms seem to be in the hallway. But when we are in the room, there is a window by the exit. So, are there 2 entrances to the room...or was that a mistake?

They're on the ground floor of a motel. I am familiar with that, the door is past and under the tv. u see the window when the hallway door is opening.

I agree about the other characters guilt. but the song talks about the need to know more about others u like. your search for illumination (both knowledge of and enlightening knowledge) presumes the organizing principle of reason, logic and answers.

so then this search not only destroys the person so loved, but you condemn everything with your fascist push to be illuminated-to be good, or right- to be coherent as a person and thus not human; there was a great remake of the tin man put out recently.

[vimeo.com] "Heartless: The Story of the Tin Man"

so this illumination is the fire; now forgive the poetry, but i think that the other actors neglect is condemnation for those who had been 'put on display and bled to death' (Mari and Trent) because they had failed to offer sufficeint illumination. So, like my parents do, they throw the baby out with the bathwater, and all becomes wrong, and in this neglect a fire starts, engulphs the scene (Atticus and girls frame of mind, or point of view-their assessment is this scene that they set) and fills the spaces in between by destroying everything.
it really reminds me of fahrenheit 451, where the people had begun saying that since all the books contradicted each other they should be burned. ...

the guy in the bathroom is old because it is atticus looking back, living this moment for his elder self in regret. going to wash/to put out the fire, but his hands are clean/the tap is not enough even if it ran the whole time to stop what happened.

the video is a question of subject-object dissonance and the inexhorable downfall of our search for easy answers from others to solve our problems. Atticus failed to solve his problem even though he played the game and thought he (and girl) did what was right. He learnt nothing.

again, no offense! this is only an artistic observation as we can all plainly see who appears to be the victim and who the aggressor by neglect.



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Jesus Christ...

The OMGARGWTFBBQ crowd strikes again…

See, now how can I not make snarky or off-comment topics when people feed me this?? I can't help it!

I won't even go into what I think the meaning of the video is because far too many people have done it already. I really do hope more of the music is more in the same tone though. It does for me the same thing NIN did in the fact that, even though the lyrics aren't sexy, the tone is...and to me, that always wins.

CharmlessMan posted:

Jesus Christ...

fuck you

Maybe the video was just a beginning.

umm...



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