Kid IRA1 posted:okay, my "95%" wasnt entirely scientific. But I actually quite enjoyed the noodling- when theres a song to accompany it. Think Head Down, the majority of Year Zero, and a couple of Ghosts here and there. So I suppose you're right, and once this EP comes out we'll both probably end up having the same conclusion.
Well I'm with you on Head Down and a "couple of Ghosts here and there," but the majority of Year Zero? That's the album I think of most when I think of noodling... specifically the outros on those songs were built upon lazy noodling. In other words, compare the epic outros of songs like Piggy, All the Pigs All Lined Up, The Art of Self Destruction, Closer, Closer to God, Ruiner, The Becoming, I Do Not Want This, Big Man With a Gun, Eraser, Burn, The Downward Spiral, and Hurt (just off one era there) with the outros of songs like The Beginning of the End, Survivalism, The Good Soldier, Me I'm Not, My Violent Heart, Vessel and God Given.
The former group had either entirely new sections added OR he added a ton of layers one by one building up the song. The latter group basically consists of him looping the same stuff and noodling on a synth for 20-60 seconds. It's just lazy. Half of the other songs on Year Zero didn't even HAVE outros and only one was kind of startling (The Great Destroyer which is technically a lot of noodling, but at least it's not noodling on top of a previously heard section).
I mean honestly, and I know this is a matter of opinion, do you think the outro on ANY song of Year Zero is even close to being as effective as say, the outros on Closer, I Do Not Want This or Eraser? Wouldn't you prefer to hear a third section of those songs rather than hear Trent noodle on top of the first or second?