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04/28/10 2:46 PM

CharmlessMan posted:
There's a discussion in my pants

wut?

your pants are discussing this too? http://i519.photobucket.com/albums/u356/tikarri/emotes%20icons%20avis/yenta4-emoticon-0013.gif

o wait the topic, right- YES THIS SOUNDS FREAKING AWESOME! SO EXCITED!

 

04/28/10 2:52 PM

Ahhhhhh!

enough said.

 

04/28/10 2:59 PM

VigilX posted:
there's no evidence yet that he's developing it rather than treading water... we'll have to wait and see

There's no evidence that Trent even wrote this piece (except for the NIN-ish sound).

VigilX posted:
Maybe it's time Trent tried experimenting with orchestras like Radiohead did.

Maybe it's time Trent did whatever the fuck he wants!

 

04/28/10 3:05 PM

Can't.

Wait.

For.

This.

 

04/28/10 3:09 PM

Even if Trent ends up not having anything to do with this... it still sounds like it may be pretty damn good. Either way, I'm most excited for this band/project/whatever.

 

04/28/10 3:19 PM

VigilX posted:
Kid IRA1 posted:
I can understand not liking the clip, but I'm completely okay with an artist mining more of the territory they created.

Finally, even if you're okay with the sound, there's no evidence yet that he's developing it rather than treading water... we'll have to wait and see.

okay, my "95%" wasnt entirely scientific. But I actually quite enjoyed the noodling- when theres a song to accompany it. Think Head Down, the majority of Year Zero, and a couple of Ghosts here and there. So I suppose you're right, and once this EP comes out we'll both probably end up having the same conclusion.

 

04/28/10 3:31 PM

urbanwilliams posted:
Can't.

Wait.

For.

This.

Well you're just gonna have to.

 

04/28/10 3:38 PM

Sounds great. Something to look forward to.

TR simply cannot make a bad album.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/28/2010 03:38PM by RhettButler.

 

04/28/10 3:38 PM

the clip sounds really cool and the artwork is pretty good too cant wait to hear the full product when its released.

 

04/28/10 3:40 PM

PeedroPaula posted:
VigilX posted:
there's no evidence yet that he's developing it rather than treading water... we'll have to wait and see
There's no evidence that Trent even wrote this piece (except for the NIN-ish sound).
We're talking about a "sound" (i.e., production), not song writing. And if you don't think Trent wasn't responsible for that, you're delusional and/or you haven't been listening to NIN lately.

PeedroPaula posted:
VigilX posted:
Maybe it's time Trent tried experimenting with orchestras like Radiohead did.
Maybe it's time Trent did whatever the fuck he wants!
And I'm sure if Trent wanted to fart in a microphone for 60 minutes, you'd listen to it and defend it

 

04/28/10 3:47 PM

VigilX posted:
And I'm sure if Trent wanted to fart in a microphone for 60 minutes, you'd listen to it and defend it

lol this depends, if its been totally fucked up and distorted in the typical NIN way and put to and epic beat....you never know....tongue sticking out smiley

 

04/28/10 3:50 PM

for what its worth, I thought the dissonant orchestration would be a cool idea. Not a necessary step. There are no necessary steps in music. But I'm quite sure VigilX wasnt saying that. Whats wrong with projecting our suggestions or expectations?

 

04/28/10 3:51 PM

Kid IRA1 posted:
okay, my "95%" wasnt entirely scientific. But I actually quite enjoyed the noodling- when theres a song to accompany it. Think Head Down, the majority of Year Zero, and a couple of Ghosts here and there. So I suppose you're right, and once this EP comes out we'll both probably end up having the same conclusion.
Well I'm with you on Head Down and a "couple of Ghosts here and there," but the majority of Year Zero? That's the album I think of most when I think of noodling... specifically the outros on those songs were built upon lazy noodling. In other words, compare the epic outros of songs like Piggy, All the Pigs All Lined Up, The Art of Self Destruction, Closer, Closer to God, Ruiner, The Becoming, I Do Not Want This, Big Man With a Gun, Eraser, Burn, The Downward Spiral, and Hurt (just off one era there) with the outros of songs like The Beginning of the End, Survivalism, The Good Soldier, Me I'm Not, My Violent Heart, Vessel and God Given.

The former group had either entirely new sections added OR he added a ton of layers one by one building up the song. The latter group basically consists of him looping the same stuff and noodling on a synth for 20-60 seconds. It's just lazy. Half of the other songs on Year Zero didn't even HAVE outros and only one was kind of startling (The Great Destroyer which is technically a lot of noodling, but at least it's not noodling on top of a previously heard section).

I mean honestly, and I know this is a matter of opinion, do you think the outro on ANY song of Year Zero is even close to being as effective as say, the outros on Closer, I Do Not Want This or Eraser? Wouldn't you prefer to hear a third section of those songs rather than hear Trent noodle on top of the first or second?

 

04/28/10 3:53 PM

This isnt the thread for discussing any of that guys - and you know it.

We have a 40 Second clip that sounds pretty cool. For all we know, the new album in its entirety and in context could be incredible. Then you can have a discussion about it.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/28/2010 03:54PM by YKWYA.

 

04/28/10 3:55 PM

I'm surprised at some people's responses here. We've heard 40 seconds of a clip and people are complaining that it sounds similar? There's never been an album where two tracks are the same, what's to say this album features a whole mix of electronic, acoustic, orchestral and other works? (remember the photographs of the guitar and the '"ooh" vocals).

To say you won't look forward to this is a bit immature, remember this has yet to be confirmed as Trent and Mariqueen, the music works as the clue. If it was an orchestral piece it probably wouldn't be as easy to spot the signifiers.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/28/2010 03:57PM by CLeek.

 

04/28/10 3:58 PM

Kid IRA1 posted:
for what its worth, I thought the dissonant orchestration would be a cool idea. Not a necessary step. There are no necessary steps in music. But I'm quite sure VigilX wasnt saying that. Whats wrong with projecting our suggestions or expectations?
Right, I'm not saying an orchestra is the only way to go, but he needs to move on to some new instrumentation. He's had 3 albums (and probably this next EP) to fiddle around with modular synths and make a lot rhythm-driven music, so now I think he needs to move on to something else (and working with an orchestra to compliment his music was just the first good idea that popped into my head). Some other ideas would be changing his drum sound from electronic and/or large headed acoustic drums to something more like the style Radiohead or even Broadcast (where the drums aren't the loudest things on the record like they usually are). Him making a REAL lo-fi record (on tape with vintage instruments, preamps, and microphones) is also something he could try. There are seriously a BUNCH of other things to do...

Obviously, he can keep playing with modular synths, I'm just saying he needs to find a new OVERALL sound and keep evolving like he used to.

 

04/28/10 4:05 PM

Cripes! This gives me a feeling of deja-vu, like I heard this collaboration in an alternate reality and it fucking killed me (in a good way).



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/28/2010 04:07PM by elsapoman.

 

04/28/10 4:07 PM

PeedroPaula posted:
CLeek posted:
Where can I find the press release?

[consequenceofsound.net]

[www.twentyfourbit.com]

I don't believe there is a "official" press release....[howtodestroyangels.com]

Sure there is. It was issued by Nasty Little Man. Any of those bands in the client list on the left sound familiar?

[www.nastylittleman.com]

 

04/28/10 4:08 PM

Just found out about it and fuck yeah! I was looking foward to them making music together and the 40 second clip sounds fucking awesome - I think I heard a faint sample of Mariqueen's voice so this could be so fucking cool! oh jesus fucking christ I have tears in my eyes because this is so fucking awesome!

It's fanboy time!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3198/3137595517_b73b51f456.jpg?v=0

 

04/28/10 4:10 PM

why is trent reznor wearing nail paint?

 

04/28/10 4:10 PM

A new image tweeted

http://howtodestroyangels.com/img/01.jpg

 

04/28/10 4:11 PM

hmmm, broken glass.....everyone, we must over analyze this NOW

 

04/28/10 4:13 PM

xAmilli0n posted:
hmmm, broken glass.....everyone, we must over analyze this NOW

If you want to take the obvious route...

They're breaking from their old roots and starting anew.

 

04/28/10 4:14 PM

Oh and the reflection of that one shard of glass looks like angels wings.

 

04/28/10 4:14 PM

YKWYA posted:
This isnt the thread for discussing any of that guys - and you know it.
Well tangents are natural part of discussion but... where exactly should Kid and I finish this conversation?

YKWYA posted:
We have a 40 Second clip that sounds pretty cool. For all we know, the new album in its entirety and in context could be incredible. Then you can have a discussion about it.
I'm confused... we can't talk about this until the album comes out?

Obviously everything is speculation at this point, but isn't that part of the fun?

 

04/28/10 5:17 PM

Looks pretty cool.

 

04/28/10 4:17 PM

CLeek posted:
I'm surprised at some people's responses here. We've heard 40 seconds of a clip and people are complaining that it sounds similar?
Exactly-we've heard a tiny demo-clip of some interesting noise. Assuming it's Trent- it's a little bit of a stretch to suddenly get pissed about it not being a challenging enough endeavour. Let's just see if we enjoy the other 30mins of the EP before posting reviews of how disappointing it already is. I'm not surprised some people are already putting on a super critic hat. This has happened on the forums with every preview. People get geeky and start showing off their expertise on how a good record should sound. That's why I'm waiting buy all the forthcoming awesome music that these fan-critics have yet to release, because it will clearly be much better.

 

04/28/10 4:18 PM

ZeroReptile posted:
why is trent reznor wearing nail paint?

Goes well with the eyeliner and corn starch

 

04/28/10 4:32 PM

maryelle posted:

Sure there is. It was issued by Nasty Little Man. Any of those bands in the client list on the left sound familiar?

[www.nastylittleman.com]

And interestingly enough, while one is on the list, the other one isn't...yet. winking smiley

 

04/28/10 4:55 PM

BillyReznor88 posted:
A new image tweeted

http://howtodestroyangels.com/img/01.jpg


This is like Trent, it doesnt look anything like anything from the past (the past of NIN i mean, which isnt to say we have to stick this to NIN, doesnt seem like what they would want). Its a real picture, with shadows, kind of like stuff with Ghosts, but still, its distinct.

Sorry, nothing really interesting to say, just HAD to comment with this.

P.S. Even though this isnt NIN, it still has a good chance of being Trent, and if we find out it is him and her, dont anyone dare move it to some really obscure place, unless you really want to, you are the moderators...SUBMIT



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 04/28/2010 04:57PM by DarthBane.

 
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