beachpoet posted:

not a fan. too noisy, man. i love drowning so much because it is clear. i don't know. ... this seems like music for teens to me. - but, hey - a drowning is still very dear to me. and i like the first one too. but i just wish trent would kill all his
machines and get down to the basics. i'd be
happy with just his piano and mariqueen's voice.
... but keep trying!

2girls posted:

What can I say? Although refreshing to hear the music of Trent, WTF, is it just me or is this kinda fucked? Maybe I'm just stubborn or stupid.. but, talk about conforming to the fame machine. I love NIN, and I love the lyrics, it just seems like SOMEONE is whipped. No offense Trent.KISSES XXX I beat my machine

OnslaughtSix posted:

vlad777 posted:

I guess this EP may be an effect of Mariqueen's inspiration by TDS and other classic NIN albums (there are absolutely no signs of any With Teeth -like sounds, the reason is obvious if you know what I mean;-) of course if only we assume that Mariqueen is a true leader of the band (one of the first HTDA picture on NIN site - Trent is standing turned back)

Maybe if you're retarded. It's obvious there's tons of analog and modular synths, which has characterized Trent's shit since WT. TDS (and The Fragile for that matter) was all about recording and sequencing kickass drums and using *guitars* as a real focused instrument, which haven't had a real focus as an an angry instrument since WT.

kbooth111 posted:

Watched the video this morning, been listening to the EP all afternoon.

My thoughts?

I like the NIN-ish sound.

I'm assuming Mariqueen has more vocal range than demonstrated on the EP (most of it is whispering), so I'll have to withhold judgment on her abilities (so far, so good though).

I was disappointed with the video, I thought Trent had finally outgrown trying to shock people with gruesome imagery/subject matter. Like many things Trent has done (Year Zero), I'm guessing this is the beginning of a long, intricate story, but I'm not really sure it's one I care to follow.

I was hoping Trent's latest adventure would be more positive in tone, reflecting his maturing despite living in a broken world, since he seems to want to make it a better place (Eric De La Cruz, Close Gitmo, disgust with W, etc.), instead of disappearing into a self-destructive downward-spiral, like the "good ole days."

So far, HTDA seems to be just another reincarnation of the promotion of self-destructive behavior. This may be fine for feeding the youthful angst needs of the fans, but I don't see it as advancing anything worth seeing/hearing (at some point any catharsis has to come to an end to have value). To me, it just fuels the fires that sustain places like Gitmo, the place where the gruesome fantasies are portrayed in real life.

If nothing else, it will be interesting to see which direction the next chapter goes. Will the story have something different to say, or will it just continue to suck the life out of reality, using the dehumanizing of humanity as an art form?

All in all, I like the sound of the music, but do not understand why, after twenty years of introspection, the message is still so wrong. It's like Trent took Year Zero and turned it upside down, embracing the coming destruction of society he's correctly identified. Which does nothing more than further empower those who Trent is supposed to be angry at. This is not a coherent strategy. (of course, neither was supporting Obama as an 'alternative')

kbooth111 posted:

Watched the video this morning, been listening to the EP all afternoon.

My thoughts?

I like the NIN-ish sound.

I'm assuming Mariqueen has more vocal range than demonstrated on the EP (most of it is whispering), so I'll have to withhold judgment on her abilities (so far, so good though).

I was disappointed with the video, I thought Trent had finally outgrown trying to shock people with gruesome imagery/subject matter. Like many things Trent has done (Year Zero), I'm guessing this is the beginning of a long, intricate story, but I'm not really sure it's one I care to follow.

I was hoping Trent's latest adventure would be more positive in tone, reflecting his maturing despite living in a broken world, since he seems to want to make it a better place (Eric De La Cruz, Close Gitmo, disgust with W, etc.), instead of disappearing into a self-destructive downward-spiral, like the "good ole days."

So far, HTDA seems to be just another reincarnation of the promotion of self-destructive behavior. This may be fine for feeding the youthful angst needs of the fans, but I don't see it as advancing anything worth seeing/hearing (at some point any catharsis has to come to an end to have value). To me, it just fuels the fires that sustain places like Gitmo, the place where the gruesome fantasies are portrayed in real life.

If nothing else, it will be interesting to see which direction the next chapter goes. Will the story have something different to say, or will it just continue to suck the life out of reality, using the dehumanizing of humanity as an art form?

All in all, I like the sound of the music, but do not understand why, after twenty years of introspection, the message is still so wrong. It's like Trent took Year Zero and turned it upside down, embracing the coming destruction of society he's correctly identified. Which does nothing more than further empower those who Trent is supposed to be angry at. This is not a coherent strategy. (of course, neither was supporting Obama as an 'alternative')

da905 posted:

what does BBB stand for? Overall this project sounds confused. Some songs just sound like long snippets from songs or really lack lustre with no melody??? I'll stick to NIN and any more gory HDA clips they want to throw our way. And if parasite indeed refers to us fans, well they are feeding off the fame so are just as culpable.

da905 posted:

what does BBB stand for? Overall this project sounds confused. Some songs just sound like long snippets from songs or really lack lustre with no melody??? I'll stick to NIN and any more gory HDA clips they want to throw our way. And if parasite indeed refers to us fans, well they are feeding off the fame so are just as culpable.

RunGVegas posted:

FLDani posted:

RunGVegas posted:

I would agree that there's not necessarily a really cohesive meaning behind the group that's taken shape up to this point (for me at least), but (1) that's just my opinion and (2) it being so early on, that's totally understandable. I think TR mentioned something about how this was supposed to keep working for awhile, but they really wanted to release some of the work in the form of the EP now, then maybe do something full-length later? I don't remember where I read this, but it was in the last week or two.

This was from a discussion on the How to Destroy Angels section.

trent_reznor posted:

Just popped my head in to hear some complaining.
inesperfectdrug - I believe you've sufficiently expressed your opinions for anyone that's possibly interested in them at this point. You've obviously spent some time on your argument here but have you read my responses to the Facebook questions? Particularly this one:
This EP is the results of early collaboration. We were going to use all of 2010 to experiment and gestate but liked the early results and decided to share them. Next up is a full LP (tent. early 2011).
and this:
As stated above, this EP is a very early phase of this project. Yes, it sounds more NIN-ish than I believe it will as we progress.

Yes - it sounds NIN-ish. You got me!

He admits it himself, but also points out that- heyyyyy- it's stuff that wasn't exactly the sound they had planned on, but they liked it and wanted to SHARE WITH US.

If they had waited until 2011, how much bitching would there be about "WHY HAVEN'T YOU MADE ANY NEW MATERIAL???"

Yeah, that's exactly what I was referring to. And to answer your question, it wouldn't have mattered if the thing had come shrink-wrapped in money and caused the listener to have spontaneous, inexplicable, multiple orgasms. Someone would find something to bitch about (i.e. "I'm trying to count my free money and enjoy my 10th spontaneous, inexplicable orgasm of the song and Mariqeen just keeps singing and singing and singing, ughhhhhhhh. This EP sucks!".

OnslaughtSix posted:

vlad777 posted:

I guess this EP may be an effect of Mariqueen's inspiration by TDS and other classic NIN albums (there are absolutely no signs of any With Teeth -like sounds, the reason is obvious if you know what I mean;-) of course if only we assume that Mariqueen is a true leader of the band (one of the first HTDA picture on NIN site - Trent is standing turned back)

Maybe if you're retarded. It's obvious there's tons of analog and modular synths, which has characterized Trent's shit since WT. TDS (and The Fragile for that matter) was all about recording and sequencing kickass drums and using *guitars* as a real focused instrument, which haven't had a real focus as an an angry instrument since WT.