nin.com news 9.17.10: The Social Network score: Free sampler EP + album preorders

nin.com news 9.17.10: The Social Network score: Free sampler EP + album preorders

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09/24/10 8:25 PM
PeedroPaula member Why so serious? Joined: 09/07/08 Location: San Pedro CA Posts: 15,227	Remix contest details here [www.facebook.com]
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09/24/10 8:28 PM
RodrigoD member Wave GOODBYE. Joined: 07/08/08 Posts: 1,694	trent_reznor posted: While you're busy over-thinking things, consider this. This music has been made for the film. It's purpose, it's sound, it's structure, it's style - the fact it even exists at all - is to satisfy the needs of the particular scene and the film as a whole. When we finished the film, we realized these sounded pretty cool on their own - hence this record. If this was approached as a record first - like Ghosts - it would likely sound very different. You may want to reserve final judgement until you actually see the film and hear the music in the context it was created for. WE decided (Fincher, Atticus and myself) we weren't going the orchestral route because that's what was best suited for this film. When you see the film, it will likely make more sense why we went the way we did. Meanwhile, Angrychrist says: "If you listen to on we march backwards, slow it down about 52%, and listen in the 22050 hz band, you can here an electronic voice say 10-10-10 does this mean something for oct. 10th of this year??????????????????" I don't know if it's just me, or that I'm fucking high on caffeine, but this made me lol.
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09/24/10 8:29 PM
laobaixing member Joined: 07/29/10 Location: Washington%2C DC Posts: 7	Very interesting. And complicated.
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09/24/10 8:54 PM
laobaixing member Joined: 07/29/10 Location: Washington%2C DC Posts: 7	Curious: anyone know how these things get mapped out visually? Any written score or outline? (Sorry, I'm a classically trained musician who is reliant on sheet music.)
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09/25/10 12:03 AM
orchromus member Joined: 02/18/09 Posts: 3	I had the pleasure of watching this film with a few relatives. I must say, Trent and Atticus did an excellent job with the score. It made a sense of the dark atmosphere that the director was portraying these people and their motives. I have always been a fan of the director and of Trent of course. The film is also filled with humor and that kid from Zombieland played Zuckerberg very good. I bought the score and will enjoy once it arrives. I also enjoyed the couple of tracks he used from Ghosts I–IV. People should go see this film next week, it just might be the most important film of the year.
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09/25/10 12:24 AM
angrychrist member my finger hurts Joined: 09/06/08 Location: heaven Posts: 33	trent_reznor posted: While you're busy over-thinking things, consider this. This music has been made for the film. It's purpose, it's sound, it's structure, it's style - the fact it even exists at all - is to satisfy the needs of the particular scene and the film as a whole. When we finished the film, we realized these sounded pretty cool on their own - hence this record. If this was approached as a record first - like Ghosts - it would likely sound very different. You may want to reserve final judgement until you actually see the film and hear the music in the context it was created for. WE decided (Fincher, Atticus and myself) we weren't going the orchestral route because that's what was best suited for this film. When you see the film, it will likely make more sense why we went the way we did. ?!!!!!? BRAVO!!!! now send in those remixes! Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 09/25/2010 12:40AM by angrychrist.
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09/25/10 1:01 AM
VigilX member Moment Awkwarder Joined: 11/27/07 Location: Southern California Posts: 709	LobotomyBaby posted: hah What Trent's message actually reads.. trent_reznor posted: VigilX, While you're busy over-thinking things, consider this. This music has been made for the film. It's purpose, it's sound, it's structure, it's style - the fact it even exists at all - is to satisfy the needs of the particular scene and the film as a whole. When we finished the film, we realized these sounded pretty cool on their own - hence this record. If this was approached as a record first - like Ghosts - it would likely sound very different. You may want to reserve final judgement until you actually see the film and hear the music in the context it was created for. WE decided (Fincher, Atticus and myself) we weren't going the orchestral route because that's what was best suited for this film. When you see the film, it will likely make more sense why we went the way we did. You know what's funny? This is the SECOND time he MIGHT have directly responded to something I've said on the net (the other time being when he asked us what songs to cover via Twitter and my suggestion, "I Die you Die" ended up being the only one he played but since Gary Numan was with him, that might have just been a coincidence). I'll check out the film eventually, but again, it just reminds me of the stuff Cliff Martinez does for now. I also think people making comparisons with Hans Zimmer and orchestral scoring are talking about a very limited style... especially when you can combine those elements with studio/electronic music and end up with some weird stuff (think Stockhousen). I know Pilgrimage isn't a real marching band, but the recreation of it placed in the context of traditional reznorian-instrumentation didn't sound like John Phillips Sousa either...
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09/25/10 5:18 AM
WorzelG member Joined: 12/06/07 Location: Wales Posts: 768	trent_reznor posted: While you're busy over-thinking things, consider this. This music has been made for the film. It's purpose, it's sound, it's structure, it's style - the fact it even exists at all - is to satisfy the needs of the particular scene and the film as a whole. When we finished the film, we realized these sounded pretty cool on their own - hence this record. If this was approached as a record first - like Ghosts - it would likely sound very different. You may want to reserve final judgement until you actually see the film and hear the music in the context it was created for. WE decided (Fincher, Atticus and myself) we weren't going the orchestral route because that's what was best suited for this film. When you see the film, it will likely make more sense why we went the way we did. It's interesting to know that nobody had a specific idea about the music when you went into scoring it. I hope we can expect some sort of extra documentary about the making of the soundtrack when the film is released on DVD
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09/25/10 8:21 AM
CyDs84 member Joined: 11/26/08 Location: Georgia USA Posts: 348	trent_reznor posted: While you're busy over-thinking things, consider this. This music has been made for the film. It's purpose, it's sound, it's structure, it's style - the fact it even exists at all - is to satisfy the needs of the particular scene and the film as a whole. When we finished the film, we realized these sounded pretty cool on their own - hence this record. If this was approached as a record first - like Ghosts - it would likely sound very different. You may want to reserve final judgement until you actually see the film and hear the music in the context it was created for. WE decided (Fincher, Atticus and myself) we weren't going the orchestral route because that's what was best suited for this film. When you see the film, it will likely make more sense why we went the way we did. I would imagine the electronic basis had to do more with the technical nature of people, but an orchestral direction might have been considered if a meteor was hitting the Earth, or something visually epic was taking place in the film (as far as scoring goes).
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09/25/10 8:28 AM
VigilX member Moment Awkwarder Joined: 11/27/07 Location: Southern California Posts: 709	CyDs84 posted: but an orchestral direction might have been considered if a meteor was hitting the Earth, or something visually epic was taking place in the film (as far as scoring goes). Again... you're limiting the scope of orchestral scoring... it doesn't have to be big, sentimental or non-experimental. Just watch the opening of Persona to get an idea [www.youtube.com]
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09/25/10 9:30 AM
CyDs84 member Joined: 11/26/08 Location: Georgia USA Posts: 348	VigilX posted: CyDs84 posted: but an orchestral direction might have been considered if a meteor was hitting the Earth, or something visually epic was taking place in the film (as far as scoring goes). Again... you're limiting the scope of orchestral scoring... it doesn't have to be big, sentimental or non-experimental. Just watch the opening of Persona to get an idea [www.youtube.com] I read the screenplay to the Social Network, the characters are more technical than they are outright weird (and this isn't a sequel to Seven).
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09/25/10 10:58 AM
LobotomyBaby member T H E W A R O F A R T Joined: 11/28/07 Location: Greatest of All Belows Posts: 2,987	VigilX posted: LobotomyBaby posted: hah What Trent's message actually reads.. trent_reznor posted: VigilX, While you're busy over-thinking things, consider this. This music has been made for the film. It's purpose, it's sound, it's structure, it's style - the fact it even exists at all - is to satisfy the needs of the particular scene and the film as a whole. When we finished the film, we realized these sounded pretty cool on their own - hence this record. If this was approached as a record first - like Ghosts - it would likely sound very different. You may want to reserve final judgement until you actually see the film and hear the music in the context it was created for. WE decided (Fincher, Atticus and myself) we weren't going the orchestral route because that's what was best suited for this film. When you see the film, it will likely make more sense why we went the way we did. You know what's funny? This is the SECOND time he MIGHT have directly responded to something I've said on the net (the other time being when he asked us what songs to cover via Twitter and my suggestion, "I Die you Die" ended up being the only one he played but since Gary Numan was with him, that might have just been a coincidence). I'll check out the film eventually, but again, it just reminds me of the stuff Cliff Martinez does for now. I also think people making comparisons with Hans Zimmer and orchestral scoring are talking about a very limited style... especially when you can combine those elements with studio/electronic music and end up with some weird stuff (think Stockhousen). I know Pilgrimage isn't a real marching band, but the recreation of it placed in the context of traditional reznorian-instrumentation didn't sound like John Phillips Sousa either... well, no offense to you but i remember a couple other posts you've made in the past about wanting trent to incorporate an orchestra type style into his music...before this soundtrack/movie was even a twinkle in fincher's eye. i think it's a cool idea myself but maybe it's just not him. i mean it was obviously radiohead's way of branching out and it worked but radiohead went their own way...i don't hear radiohead getting into modular synthesizers very much...so each has their own style. thankfully
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09/25/10 12:07 PM
WorzelG member Joined: 12/06/07 Location: Wales Posts: 768	The latest review from Slant Magazine calls the score sexy and malevolent slant magazine review
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09/25/10 12:45 PM
OMS member Loving Life (like a boss) Joined: 05/04/08 Location: the abstract Posts: 9,128	WorzelG posted: The latest review from Slant Magazine calls the score sexy and malevolent slant magazine review Good review. I called the 5 songs of the soundtrack "sexy" in my first post. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/25/2010 12:45PM by OMS.
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09/25/10 1:15 PM
scott_pawsey member Just zeroes and ones Joined: 09/03/08 Location: Ontario - Canada Posts: 4,225	My speakers keep popping a bit during the quiet section of Eventually We Find Our Way. It's the same with my iPod earphones, but it's fine with my big headphones I bought at work. Is this an issue with anybody else?
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09/25/10 1:32 PM
VigilX member Moment Awkwarder Joined: 11/27/07 Location: Southern California Posts: 709	LobotomyBaby posted: well, no offense to you but i remember a couple other posts you've made in the past about wanting trent to incorporate an orchestra type style into his music...before this soundtrack/movie was even a twinkle in fincher's eye. Why would that be offensive? And how is orchestration a "style?" It's actually just an implementation of instrumentation, but it's certainly not a style (that would be like saying all classical composers sound the same). LobotomyBaby posted: i think it's a cool idea myself but maybe it's just not him. Maybe, but since Trent took the time to respond, I'm going to assume it was a choice for the film... maybe he would be interested, but he's just never had a clear opportunity. LobotomyBaby posted: i mean it was obviously radiohead's way of branching out and it worked but radiohead went their own way... I know what you mean and I'm not saying he should copy them, but on the other hand, why is it okay that they use guitar, synths, bass and drums and Trent does the same, but once we cross into an orchestra, it's not cool anymore? LobotomyBaby posted: i don't hear radiohead getting into modular synthesizers very much...so each has their own style. thankfully I'm pretty sure they do actually, but they just use them their own way which is kind of my point. I'm not suggesting that Trent should just do what everybody else would do with an orchestra, I'm suggesting that he use it like he would use it (I know, tautological, but maybe you get my point). Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 09/25/2010 01:32PM by VigilX.
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09/25/10 3:43 PM
CyDs84 member Joined: 11/26/08 Location: Georgia USA Posts: 348	Vigilx posted: Maybe, but since Trent took the time to respond, I'm going to assume it was a choice for the film... maybe he would be interested, but he's just never had a clear opportunity. I'm assuming you mean a non-distorted, traditional orchestra sound. There's nothing wrong with an orchestra as an option for a movie score. Sometimes it's the way to denote a movie or parts of a movie, but generally the main character has his own priorities revolving around technology, so something electronic probably carries the main character better. There could have been some hybrid electronic orchestra sound, but it might have been too much going on at once.
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09/25/10 3:58 PM
CLeek member Manchester 25.02.07 Joined: 12/25/07 Location: Lancashire%2C UK Posts: 1,357	Any chance of some orchestral music in the future? I think Reznor's style would gel beautifully with an orchestra.
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09/25/10 4:28 PM
Kid IRA1 member kill yr idols Joined: 09/03/08 Location: formerly some antiseptic Posts: 3,380	I think we're being apologists for something that doesnt need an apology at this point. At any rate, I'm a fan of the six tracks I've heard so far, and I'll be seeing the movie Friday. And I admit, sometimes all it takes to get me to go is a great soundtrack. Beck and Nigel Godrich got me to see Scott Pilgrim and it paid off in spades. I'm looking forward to The Social Network now, and actively avoiding reviews to go in with an open mind.
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09/25/10 7:55 PM
RodrigoD member Wave GOODBYE. Joined: 07/08/08 Posts: 1,694	I like soundtracks. And turtles. Not particularly in that order.
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09/25/10 8:36 PM
VigilX member Moment Awkwarder Joined: 11/27/07 Location: Southern California Posts: 709	CyDs84 posted: I'm assuming you mean a non-distorted, traditional orchestra sound. I don't mean that... don't get me wrong, I'm not opposed to that either... there's a great Radiohead track that you might want to take a listen to if you haven't already called "Trans-atlantic drawl" that uses a brass section completely distorted... this is an example of something Trent could do with those types of instruments and it wouldn't necessarily be too big. CyDs84 posted: but generally the main character has his own priorities revolving around technology, so something electronic probably carries the main character better. And I get that, I really do. I don't know though, I tend to not like obvious choices like that... I'm not a fan of Sofia Coppola or the movie, but I did like her choice to do a period-piece (Marie Antoinette) and NOT use the kind of score you'd expect for that kinda movie (the kinda score you'd hear in "Pride and Prejudice" and "The Remains of the Day" ) when she used a lot of 80's alternative music. I think Stanley Kubrick also did a great job scoring 2001 by NOT using the obvious choice of "futuristic" music and instead, used mostly classical composers. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/25/2010 08:37PM by VigilX.
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09/25/10 9:32 PM
biophilliac member Joined: 03/13/10 Posts: 7	VigilX posted: LobotomyBaby posted: hah What Trent's message actually reads.. trent_reznor posted: VigilX, While you're busy over-thinking things, consider this. This music has been made for the film. It's purpose, it's sound, it's structure, it's style - the fact it even exists at all - is to satisfy the needs of the particular scene and the film as a whole. When we finished the film, we realized these sounded pretty cool on their own - hence this record. If this was approached as a record first - like Ghosts - it would likely sound very different. You may want to reserve final judgement until you actually see the film and hear the music in the context it was created for. WE decided (Fincher, Atticus and myself) we weren't going the orchestral route because that's what was best suited for this film. When you see the film, it will likely make more sense why we went the way we did. You know what's funny? This is the SECOND time he MIGHT have directly responded to something I've said on the net (the other time being when he asked us what songs to cover via Twitter and my suggestion, "I Die you Die" ended up being the only one he played but since Gary Numan was with him, that might have just been a coincidence). I'll check out the film eventually, but again, it just reminds me of the stuff Cliff Martinez does for now. I also think people making comparisons with Hans Zimmer and orchestral scoring are talking about a very limited style... especially when you can combine those elements with studio/electronic music and end up with some weird stuff (think Stockhousen). I know Pilgrimage isn't a real marching band, but the recreation of it placed in the context of traditional reznorian-instrumentation didn't sound like John Phillips Sousa either... Directors and Producers generally make the decisions on and have final say on what they put on the movie, no use arguing with the musician who scores the film, he is there asa creative extension of the director's vision..
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09/25/10 11:35 PM
beachpoet member Joined: 05/16/10 Location: virginia beach Posts: 202	A. So, I hear you're going to be getting to work on the movie about facebook, eh? Any ideas for the music yet? B. Yeah, I was thinking Trent Reznor, you know, the guy behind Nine Inch Nails. A. Oh, okay. So, it's going to be like an orchestra based score, then? B. What, are you fucking high? I said Nine Inch Nails. Do you think I'd seek him out and then get him to work with an orchestra. Get out of my face, you idiot. ... or something like that. eh?
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09/26/10 12:43 AM
Kid IRA1 member kill yr idols Joined: 09/03/08 Location: formerly some antiseptic Posts: 3,380	Lets be constructive here, I dont agree with VigilX but he makes valid arguments. We can reiterate eachother all we want but he's the only one coming up with actual examples and sound arguments for the most part... or something like that. eh?
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09/26/10 6:00 AM
CLeek member Manchester 25.02.07 Joined: 12/25/07 Location: Lancashire%2C UK Posts: 1,357	Do we bad apples in England get a free download of the album with our purchased physical copy, on tuesday?
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09/26/10 7:01 AM
Sheepdean member Thug aim Joined: 11/27/07 Location: London Posts: 2,144	CLeek posted: Do we bad apples in England get a free download of the album with our purchased physical copy, on tuesday? Yes indeed we do.
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09/26/10 7:29 AM
RobInkstar member Joined: 08/15/10 Location: UK Posts: 52	Sheepdean posted: CLeek posted: Do we bad apples in England get a free download of the album with our purchased physical copy, on tuesday? Yes indeed we do. Sweet! I think it's sounding pretty damn good so far. I'm excited to see how it fits with the film.
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09/26/10 10:46 AM
scott_pawsey member Just zeroes and ones Joined: 09/03/08 Location: Ontario - Canada Posts: 4,225	beachpoet posted: A. So, I hear you're going to be getting to work on the movie about facebook, eh? Any ideas for the music yet? B. Yeah, I was thinking Trent Reznor, you know, the guy behind Nine Inch Nails. A. Oh, okay. So, it's going to be like an orchestra based score, then? B. What, are you fucking high? I said Nine Inch Nails. Do you think I'd seek him out and then get him to work with an orchestra. Get out of my face, you idiot. ... or something like that. eh? No need for hostility. Trent has worked with an orchestra before with the Bridge School shows, and it was wonderful.
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09/26/10 12:24 PM
beachpoet member Joined: 05/16/10 Location: virginia beach Posts: 202	scott_pawsey posted: beachpoet posted: A. So, I hear you're going to be getting to work on the movie about facebook, eh? Any ideas for the music yet? B. Yeah, I was thinking Trent Reznor, you know, the guy behind Nine Inch Nails. A. Oh, okay. So, it's going to be like an orchestra based score, then? B. What, are you fucking high? I said Nine Inch Nails. Do you think I'd seek him out and then get him to work with an orchestra. Get out of my face, you idiot. ... or something like that. eh? No need for hostility. Trent has worked with an orchestra before with the Bridge School shows, and it was wonderful. From Goodfellas, "Hey, I'm breaking balls over here!" no, i love all the nin fans, even simple, little brats like you.
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09/26/10 12:29 PM
Demonseed25 member Joined: 09/10/08 Posts: 1,258	I like the music. I like all the music projects Trent has embarked on post NIN. It's good music,like alot of other good music out there. But that's *ALL IT IS*. It's not epically, great, music like NIN was. I wish Trent would go through his journal and make some music based on what's going on inside his head like the old days. TO ME, there's nothing special about Trent's post NIN music. It just doesn't poignantly affect me the way NIN did. I guess what I'm really trying to say is - I miss NIN. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/26/2010 12:31PM by Demonseed25.
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