nin.com news 10.22.10: Pretty Hate Machine Re-Issue
 
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10/24/10 1:27 AM

thepenguin55 posted:
This is great news! Has this been remixed as well or is this just a straight re-master? Not to sound like an ungrateful douche, but if any NIN album was in dire need of a remixing it's PHM. Unfortunately, no amount of remixing could turn "Kinda I Want To", "That's What I Get", and "Ringfinger" into good songs, lol. This is coming from a diehard nin fan. Those tracks should have suffered the same fate as "Maybe Just Once" and "Purest Feeling". Getting back on track, a remastered version of "Get Down, Make Love" would be a nice little bonus, eh Trent? And if the tracks from the "Industrial Nation" demo cd have been found, for the love of God Trent, PLEASE include them! I'd kill a man just to hear those tracks...
hey douche! those songs you are referring to are fucking amazing! those songs ARE phm!you ungrateful douche!!! (jk with the whole douche thing)

 

10/24/10 2:29 AM

Okay... First Downward Spiral and now Pretty Hate Machine. Re-release Fragile already! Be sure to include Ten Mile High, The New Flesh, AND Please w/ Appendage. If I'm forgetting anything please chime in folks. This is something that is long overdue.

 

10/24/10 2:51 AM

deadblue posted:
thepenguin55 posted:
This is great news! Has this been remixed as well or is this just a straight re-master? Not to sound like an ungrateful douche, but if any NIN album was in dire need of a remixing it's PHM. Unfortunately, no amount of remixing could turn "Kinda I Want To", "That's What I Get", and "Ringfinger" into good songs, lol. This is coming from a diehard nin fan. Those tracks should have suffered the same fate as "Maybe Just Once" and "Purest Feeling". Getting back on track, a remastered version of "Get Down, Make Love" would be a nice little bonus, eh Trent? And if the tracks from the "Industrial Nation" demo cd have been found, for the love of God Trent, PLEASE include them! I'd kill a man just to hear those tracks...
hey douche! those songs you are referring to are fucking amazing! those songs ARE phm!you ungrateful douche!!! (jk with the whole douche thing)
Industrial Nation was never a NIN album, it was a joke from a parody site.

Also, PHM is flawless as it is, this remaster is going to be equivalent to fifteen orgasms a minute

 

10/24/10 4:15 AM

thank you trent.
my life sucks right now.
but when i got the twit that you're re-releasing phm...
...it sucked a little less.

-after everything i've done i hate myself for what i've become-

 

10/24/10 4:39 AM

This is going to be neat. Must find preorder link for the UK.
Also liking the revamped cover art. smiling smiley

 

10/24/10 4:49 AM

Please release this in Hi-rez blu-ray audio. Waiting on my Social Network Blu-ray audio, since DVD-A and SACD have become pretty much obsolete the release of PHM on Blu-ray could be a huge step in getting quality sound back into people homes, not this MP3 bullshit everywhere. I mean who doesn't have a blu-ray player.

Can't wait either way love this disc

 

10/24/10 5:46 AM

PHM has been in my life since 1990 and has always been one of my favorite albums. I am very excited about this re-release! Thanks a million!

 

10/24/10 7:10 AM

Thank you!

Still looking forward to new real NIN material!

A music world without NIN is like a lovelife without sex!

 

10/24/10 10:10 AM

BenBlixa posted:
Thank you!

Still looking forward to new real NIN material!

A music world without NIN is like a lovelife without sex!

He's got about a year before he scores Fincher's next movie which is in pre production now(The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo). Let's hope he gets it done before then.

 

10/24/10 10:30 AM

deadblue posted:
thepenguin55 posted:
This is great news! Has this been remixed as well or is this just a straight re-master? Not to sound like an ungrateful douche, but if any NIN album was in dire need of a remixing it's PHM. Unfortunately, no amount of remixing could turn "Kinda I Want To", "That's What I Get", and "Ringfinger" into good songs, lol. This is coming from a diehard nin fan. Those tracks should have suffered the same fate as "Maybe Just Once" and "Purest Feeling". Getting back on track, a remastered version of "Get Down, Make Love" would be a nice little bonus, eh Trent? And if the tracks from the "Industrial Nation" demo cd have been found, for the love of God Trent, PLEASE include them! I'd kill a man just to hear those tracks...
hey douche! those songs you are referring to are fucking amazing! those songs ARE phm!you ungrateful douche!!! (jk with the whole douche thing)
No need to kid because it's true lol.

 

10/24/10 10:45 AM

^ don't be such children. people are allowed to have differing opinions.

personally, i'm on the "could use re-recording" side, but i suspect TR will do the same thing he did with the TDS deluxe version: beef up the original, "warts" and all, and put out a tasteful package with some nice bonus material. will be listening before i buy, though.

 

10/24/10 10:57 AM

To a couple posts above, Kinda I Want To is in my PHM top 3. It's awesome, screw you guys.

EDIT: Also, Rngfinger. I god damn love Ringfinger.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/24/2010 10:58AM by scott_pawsey.

 

10/24/10 11:14 AM

Now you just need to give us the FRAGILE that u promised last year! This is a great surprise thanx but I need the FRAGILE cause I use "the day the world went away" to help with the death of my grandfather, like you do for your grandma Trent, it helps me,thank-you trent for sharing the pain of life with us, and showing us everone has their issues but music can slay the beast inside, especially when it is deep.

 

10/24/10 11:58 AM

scott_pawsey posted:
To a couple posts above, Kinda I Want To is in my PHM top 3. It's awesome, screw you guys.

EDIT: Also, Rngfinger. I god damn love Ringfinger.
KIWT is my #1 most played NIN song. Haters gonna hate

 

10/24/10 12:37 PM

Oh wow great news! Great news!

 

10/24/10 12:47 PM

Sheepdean posted:
scott_pawsey posted:
To a couple posts above, Kinda I Want To is in my PHM top 3. It's awesome, screw you guys.

EDIT: Also, Rngfinger. I god damn love Ringfinger.
KIWT is my #1 most played NIN song. Haters gonna hate

Oh you've said it, my #1 at the moment and of course a top-song of the album.
Too catchy to don't get caught.

 

10/24/10 1:16 PM

That's What I Get had so much potential. I can understand disliking the album version but listen to the demo. With the right drums, it has 'so' much more energy and groove to it. That's why I covered it the way I did.

Sheepdean posted:
Industrial Nation was never a NIN album, it was a joke from a parody site.

Then why does the Wiki mention it?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/24/2010 01:23PM by OnslaughtSix.

 

10/24/10 5:49 PM

Thank you so much for this. i recently went to a concert. its just not the same. i never enjoy myself like i did at a NIN concert. just simply listening to a NIN album will be good enough, especially the reissue of one of my favorite records. id rather listen to a cd of my favorite band then ever spend money on a ticket to go to a concert unless its NIN. its just the way i feel. if anyone has ever had the pleasure of seeing NIN perform live, then u have to agree with me.

 

10/24/10 6:07 PM

Trent, if you are out there...

Will there be a 5.1 remixed version like you did with The Downward Spiral?

Thanks!

 

10/24/10 7:31 PM

smiling smiley smiling smiley smiling smiley This is the best news i have heard in a long time! I love phm but it has such an 80s feel to it that i cant blast it in my radio like i want to. This is the cd that i always wanted remastered. thanks.

 

10/24/10 7:44 PM

Fuck Yeah! Wheres the "I can't Wait" thread?!

 

10/24/10 7:47 PM

RodrigoD posted:
I liked the 80's because it was a period in which I could basically eat anything such as gum chewed by someone else and I wouldn't get shit for it. Now, however...

Needless to say I loved the 80's.

Ha! Love it!!

 

10/24/10 10:30 PM

I wonder if Supernaut and a studio version of Sex Dwarf will pop in the bonus tracks...

 

10/24/10 11:36 PM

FUCKIN' A, BUDDY. HEY HOW ABOUT WE TALK ABOUT RE-ISSUING THAT PESKY OL' 'FRAGILE' ALBUM, YA' FUCKER????!!!! tongue sticking out smiley -just teasin' everything you do is magic, TR.

 

10/24/10 11:43 PM

am i the only one who thinks the 'maybe just once' cut from the original album would have been the greatest break up song if it were remixed without the strong 80s feel to it?

 

10/25/10 12:04 AM

blaze42069 posted:
This is a great surprise thanx but I need the FRAGILE cause I use "the day the world went away" to help with the death of my grandfather, like you do for your grandma Trent, it helps me,thank-you trent for sharing the pain of life with us, and showing us everone has their issues but music can slay the beast inside, especially when it is deep.

I've always been kind of sad that the version played live goes the complete other direction compared to the album version. I know that the album version has a huge multitude of guitar tracks mashed over each other to achieve the sound, but I love just sinking into the depth of it. The quieter version of TDTWWA is great and all, but manages to feel almost anti-climactic for me.


As far as the Fragile reissue, I'm thinking Bicycle is probably easier to work with than the company he left on, what sounded like, pretty bad terms. We'll see The Fragile re-released when it can happen I'm sure.

 

10/25/10 5:54 AM

The vinyl issue has been raised a few times? Has anyone found a link to a vinyl
pre-order? If so, do we know if anyone other than Amazon will be selling said vinyl. Amazon sucks big time at shipping vinyl. They are LP-challenged. Speaking of LPs...when is HTDA's EP coming out on vinyl? Checking their site in vain on a daily basis is getting old.

I personally would like to see Ringfinger replaced by Twist. But preferences are like assholes.

 

10/25/10 7:18 AM

Vivavicen posted:
These are great news!! I hope it sounds fucking loud and noisy!!

Why, is your volume function broken on your stereo? I hope it doesn't sound loud at all, I hope it has full dynamic range with a couple dB's headroom, which is the way CD's were meant to be done.

All this dynamic range compression on today's music sucks the fucking life right out of the music and makes it sound like shit. Remastering usually means the dynamics are squashed and it sounds nowhere near as good as the original recording, see Telephantasm for the most recent example.

Here's Outshined from the 1991 Badmotorfinger CD followed by the 2010 Telephantasm version.

1991 Badmotorfinger

http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/4602/outshinedbadmotorfinger.jpg

2010 Telephantasm

http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/7480/outshinedtelephantasm.jpg

The vinyl is shit too, done from the same dynamically challenged masters the CD's were created with. I returned my "limited edition" already, not spending $80 on that kife.

Myklbn posted:
Love the new artwork. I'm really curious to hear how it sounds, too. Pretty Hate Machine was very much "of it's time". In other words it sounds a little dated...as does a lot of 80s music. Product of the technology of the time, I suppose. The song-writing is top-notch, of course, and I'd rate it and "With Teeth" as the two albums that are good to introduce a new fan to NIN with.

Can't wait to get it!

If it's just re-mastered and not re-recorded then it will sound exactly the same as far as the sound of the 80's goes.

skinlayers posted:
Swwweeeeeet! Yes Yes Yes!
Now, hopefully someone will put up the money for the 5.1 mix. winking smiley

skinlayers

Fuck yeah, and let's hope it's either on DVD-A, Blu-ray or SACD. It would be a shame to do a 5.1 mix and only deliver it on DVD-Video with lossy 448 Kbps Dolby. Hope they might add a Blu-ray SKU like they did with The Social Network OST.

SSquirrel posted:
Also, unlike a lot of remasters, I think Trent will manage to keep some dynamics, while not making them quite as extreme and not introducing digital clipping. The Loudness War is insane. Altho it still makes me grin to think that a few of the tracks on Alice in Chains "Dirt" have stickers at the radio station reminding people to turn the volume down X amount when they play them smiling smiley

I hope so, but Year Zero wasn't very dynamic at all. PHM sounds awesome to me from a mastering standpoint, so I hope they don't apply ANY drc or limiting at all.

The Beatles Mono boxset is the best remastering job I've seen in a while.

SardoNumspa posted:
Excellent news. Will be picking this up. I always thought the original album sounded a bit 'quiet'. Hopefully this will have a more pumped up sound

God I hope not, my volume control works fine on my stereo.

c! posted:
GREAT!!!!!

I'm just a bit concerned about these remastered versions... no doubt about Trent and Tom's abilities. Just hope it's not just "louder."

Amen brother.

nihilmatters posted:
Tom Baker has mastered some excellent albums...

[precisionmastering.com]

With Teeth and Year Zero were not so great - [www.dr.loudness-war.info]

I mean, they were great albums, but the mastering was not so great. The Social Network looks really good though, even in .mp3 format. Hopefully my Blu-ray will arrive today.

deadblue posted:
hey douche! those songs you are referring to are fucking amazing! those songs ARE phm!you ungrateful douche!!! (jk with the whole douche thing)

Haha, but you're bang on the money with those songs, they're all fucking fantastic. PHM is perfect.

mcallister1977 posted:
Please release this in Hi-rez blu-ray audio. Waiting on my Social Network Blu-ray audio, since DVD-A and SACD have become pretty much obsolete the release of PHM on Blu-ray could be a huge step in getting quality sound back into people homes, not this MP3 bullshit everywhere. I mean who doesn't have a blu-ray player.

Can't wait either way love this disc

You rock!!!! And with over 22 million Blu-ray players in US homes I fully agree, this is the best format for music.

mjwood407 posted:
Trent, if you are out there...

Will there be a 5.1 remixed version like you did with The Downward Spiral?

Thanks!

Please, please, please! It is encouraging to see so many people looking for this.

SSquirrel posted:
As far as the Fragile reissue, I'm thinking Bicycle is probably easier to work with than the company he left on, what sounded like, pretty bad terms. We'll see The Fragile re-released when it can happen I'm sure.

I thought the DE was coming through Artists in Residence, which should mean 24/192 surround Blu-ray as well as other formats.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/25/2010 07:19AM by dobyblue.

 

10/25/10 7:45 AM

YAY!!! Will buy myself an early Christmas present (or maybe a late birthday present???) smiling smiley Listened to the "original" PHM on Sunday, what else can I say??? LOVELOVELOVE!!!!!! smiling smiley

 

10/25/10 8:56 AM

I know nobody will answer this question, but i'll ask anyway.
What about international releases? USA exclusive is a bad idea.

+ same question regarding TSN soundtrack CD.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/25/2010 07:57AM by BenAkenobi.

 
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