Digiwaste posted:

Wow I got alot of questions and ideas. Trent probably read this and say what the hell? Lol

XD Keep your thoughts. Rather create some great remixes now, remix.nin.com actually needs some new hits.

Sheepdean posted:

Digiwaste posted:

Has anyone ponder if Trent put more pictures in the booklet of that era? If he does, that would be awesome!

They're not changing the booklet: they've even removed the only photo that was originally in it, as they didn't have the master copy and it was too low-res to use.

really? Damn that was a really cool pic. But hey at least we got the original album to take a look at it. And plus they have a poster with that photo. Which is awesome.

Digiwaste: as has already been hinted, please use the 'edit' function when compiling your responses rather than quoting and posting multiple times.

Thanks

I wonder what the CD itself will look like, as well as the back cover?
I feel like the CD print will be like the original, a black ink only screenprint-like version of the cover pic in a stripe down the middle.

I guess we'll have to wait and see.

True, and let's not forget that Austrian Release with black on the sides instead of blue:
Petty Hate Machine

Or the Australian one with the black circle around the edge:
Even Petty-er Hate Machine

In all probability it will be modeled after the US or UK release, and also it could mirror the original release in both areas. I don't mind whatever it looks like, I like the mystery.

As you know, sheepdean, all reissues may not look the same either!

Sheepdean posted:

I hope they go for a UK-style disc, but with the new colours. I may be biased, but I think the UK one is the best

Me too, actually. The classic black image doesn't look so great with the physical 'CD color' around it, IMO.

New colors, UK style is my choice as well, and I grew up with the black print one!

TWIST TWIST TWIST!

The vinyl doesn't currently have a release date - it should be on the front page, or at least twitter, when it does

I, for one, would love to hear a 5.1 mix, either as Blu-ray Audio or FLAC files (or both!).

Workin' so hard lately!

Mike_Osadciw posted:

I think the point that was trying to be made is that listening to 24-bit on a portable device through earphones or even a docking station on a home stereo will not sound as good as a well designed CD player playing back 16-bit CD content through the player's own 24-bit DACS.

That is part of it, and hopefully the player will have 16/44.1 DAC's (there is one player out there that's $10k plus that actually upsamples CD-DA to DSD and is supposed to be wonderful from what I've read, but $400 is about my ceiling for a CD dedicated player...although that other one may play SACD as well), but the other point I was trying to make is that 24-bit guarantees nothing at all, mastering is the key. A wonderfully produced album can sound like shit after it's been mastered.

Give me a well mastered 320 Kbps .mp3 over a 24-bit/96kHz file that's clipped and had aggressive dynamic range compression, brickwalling, limiting, etc., applied.

Of course I'll take well mastered 24/192 5.1 or 24/96 7.1 Blu-ray any day of the week.

Digital downloads for high resolution are just not at the point where they're feasible yet, and they remove all the options Blu-ray adds to the mix.

For PHM for example:

Pretty Hate Machine: Deluxe Edition [Blu-ray]
*entire album in 24/192 5.1 remastered from the original master tapes
*entire album in 24/192 stereo remastered from the original master tapes
*all music videos remastered to high definition (where source material allows) with new 24-bit audio
*live performance footage from 1990~1991 remastered
*archived interview footage
*new interviews about the remastering process and making the Deluxe Edition
*all b-sides remastered from the original master tapes to 24/192 stereo
*CD "digital copy" included with no drm
*voucher to download 24/96 .flac files of the stereo tracks
*MSRP $29.99 (Amazon pre-order price $24.99)

This shits all over anything digital downloads can do.

dobyblue posted:

For PHM for example:

Pretty Hate Machine: Deluxe Edition [Blu-ray]
*entire album in 24/192 5.1 remastered from the original master tapes
*entire album in 24/192 stereo remastered from the original master tapes
*all music videos remastered to high definition (where source material allows) with new 24-bit audio
*live performance footage from 1990~1991 remastered
*archived interview footage
*new interviews about the remastering process and making the Deluxe Edition
*all b-sides remastered from the original master tapes to 24/192 stereo
*CD "digital copy" included with no drm
*voucher to download 24/96 .flac files of the stereo tracks
*MSRP $29.99 (Amazon pre-order price $24.99)

This shits all over anything digital downloads can do.

I hope you just made all that shit up.

I'm tired of Blu-Ray getting all the cool bonus shit. Fuck you people.

seasonsinthesky posted:

^ you're TIRED of it? wake up, mon ami — Blu-ray has barely taken off, and it's the current focus for most high quality entertainment content. if you're tired of its exclusives now, you'll be trying to off yourself in another year or two!

Yeah, blu-ray is set on track to become the default media pretty soon. Notice how in commercials now blu-ray is coming before DVD in the "Coming soon to blu-ray and DVD" line? It was the same thing when VHS died, except blu-ray was DVD. Everything dies and gets replaced eventually.

scott_pawsey posted:

seasonsinthesky posted:

^ you're TIRED of it? wake up, mon ami — Blu-ray has barely taken off, and it's the current focus for most high quality entertainment content. if you're tired of its exclusives now, you'll be trying to off yourself in another year or two!

Yeah, blu-ray is set on track to become the default media pretty soon. Notice how in commercials now blu-ray is coming before DVD in the "Coming soon to blu-ray and DVD" line? It was the same thing when VHS died, except blu-ray was DVD. Everything dies and gets replaced eventually.

Yes, but in that case it's understandable as it's used as a video format.



Audio, I don't think it should be.



I actually had an idea for a new audio format in the past. 8/16 GB read-only SD cards. They could carry the lossless audio, and albums with any sort of bonuses would be upped into the 16 GB.



It's odd nobody ever used this sort of idea. Seems kind of ideal, really if you ask me. Compact, and you don't need to worry about damage like you would a disc.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/04/2010 06:32PM by rodheh.

Ok....

I know I will probably get jumped for this...but fuck it, I have been a NIN fan since Broken came out in 1992 and I am not about to support every little thing that comes out just because it's NIN, even if I have mixed feelings on it....

I am gonna be completely honest here, I am really on the fence about this idea...Like yes, Pretty Hate Machine currently sits at #3 on my favorite albums of all time, and has had that spot for quite some time now....But this just doesn't sit too well with me....kinda like the dinner that's just a little too greasy or upsets your stomach not to the point of utter sickness, but enough to be noticeably unconfortable...Here's why....and remember this is ALL IN MY OPINION...if you don;t like it or disagree by all means you are allowed to, but everyone has their own opinion and is entitled to it, so please respect that in regards to my following statement....

NOW, here is where I find problem with the idea, Don't get me wrong, I am in total agreement that a re-release is in order since Trent's break from major labels, hell even a deluxe package encorporating the unreleased tracks "Maybe Just Once" and "Purest Feeling" since they were the really the only tracks from that era that weren't released, but in any event, my problem with this stems from messing with the original mixes and production...That album was written, mixed, produced and edited by Trent when he was in a certain headspace...It was that emotion mixed with the technology of the time that makes that album the classic it was...

Trent has grown, matured, and learned one fuck of a lot since he made this album, and by going back and re-tooling something that, which was for the most part to a lot of fans, not as much about the sound as about the feeling and overall presence behiend it, and adding tweaks and mixing from his current state of being which is obviously not as pissed off/heartbroken/emotional as he originally was kind of taints a lot of what that album originally portrayed...I find it's like what's happening when Hollywood producers/directors go to make a remake....it's like treading on thin ice and/or like a Balloon bouncing on a bed of needles it can be a great remake, but the slightest off beat thing you can loose an entire part of the audience....The only thing here is, Trent originally made that album, so he has the upper hand in this scenario as opposed to some director trying to re-make Wes Craven or John Carpenter....Which is why I am not completely writing this idea/project off, I will most certainly purchase this and give it a hell of a fair chance, but it is gonna take something short of spectacular to be able to make this stand out for me...

But I'll openly admit, It's good to see Trent going back to his roots and righting the wrongs TVT and Interscope made...But, To be honest, I would LOVE to see a limited edition of this come out with "Maybe Just Once", and "Purest Feeling" on it, that way it gives fans a chance to officially own all the recordings out there from this era.