It's kinda cool that my birthday is around the same time as the release date.

I can't wait to hear it, best birthday present ever!!

About the price in Europe:

Going to local retailers doesn't seem like an option. I've checked some and the cd goes from 20€ to 21€. I don't understand it, but I'd like to though.

the remaster is streaming via SoundCloud at [www.nme.com] now. too poor a stream quality to properly gauge the remastering quality, but you can check it out anyway.

I didn't even think about what Trent said until now, but looking at it like losing the mixes to his first full length album, that's even depressing to hear (damn man), but it seems every live performance was basically a remix of the original thing, and it seems if you were going to remix it anyway you would come up with a similar result by just redoing it (if all else failed). Not trying to open up an old wound needlessly, but I always thought it was more of a problem with ownership between record companies that would only stand to get new advertisement for what they own anyway. Which would pretty much work out for them. They might as well move it all to CC licensing.

I guess what it comes down to is that it's not easy to duplicate the subtle 80's sound in numerous ways unless you've kept every instrument and kept track of every original tweaking that went into the polishing, and then that would be it's own detail work. I guess, from what I've heard also, some things were last minute cuts into NIN songs that just happened to work and would be hard to keep track of without a master copy. At least I've heard that about Downward Spiral, certain screams here and there, random noises that worked, etc...

Anyway, just basic stuff, nothing to do with specific formatting.

Finally got around to preordering it! The excitement is seeping in!

Anyone picking up the vinyl for this? I've never had a vinyl collection before so how does it compare to FLAC? If it's really that much better than MP3 as people say it is, I hope he reissues Fragile on vinyl someday; that shit goes for over a $100 on some sites

upwardspiral94 posted:

Anyone picking up the vinyl for this? I've never had a vinyl collection before so how does it compare to FLAC? If it's really that much better than MP3 as people say it is...

i don't think you quite understand the difference between digital file formats and physical media.

FLAC is a lossless format, which means no audio spectrum content is removed from the source when it is encoded to a FLAC file.

MP3 encoding achieves its smaller filesize by stripping spectral audio content; how much audio content is lost is dependent on the quality setting (320kbps is the highest it can go). this is why it's called a lossy format.

vinyl audio quality is revered for sounding "warmer" because the physical format doesn't reproduce high frequencies as well as digital formats (including CD). it can, however, store frequency content far beyond the CD spec, and it can't be compressed as hard during mastering as digital audio can. (this is a different kind of compression from lossy digital encoding for MP3s.) however, vinyl has other drawbacks: pops and clicks from the needle hitting dust in the grooves tends to be #1.

two other things:
- vinyl doesn't necessarily carry the extra frequency content. record companies like to cut financial corners, which means they sometimes press vinyl using sources that don't actually have that content (like the CD).
- FLAC and MP3 can encode vinyl rips too, as well as DVD and Blu-ray audio rips. once you have a digital uncompressed audio file (usually WAV), you can encode it to any lossy or lossless format you want.

hitmewithmuzak posted:

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Rob got his copy today, it looks cool! Can't wait!

Oh man, thats looks amazing. Kinda wish I hadn't seen it until the 22nd though.

Kid IRA1 posted:

I'm listening to the remaster stream at NME. This is really geeky to admit, but its exciting listening to what changed. I'm playing the songs back to back with their originals right now.

I think I'll wait until Tuesday, but how would you compare the original album to the remaster?

Can you tell me whether the new NIN-Vinyls come with an mp3-download link?
I am looking forward to getting Pretty Hate Machine on Vinyl but I'd like to have it on my PC, mp3-player etc as well...

Ugh, i ordered mine from Amazon.co.uk. Expected delivery time - 6th of December.
You guys have it easy

3 days!

Who's going to have both the original and remaster on their i-pod?

The remaster is streaming here also:

[www.twentyfourbit.com]



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Thats great!!!, ive been waiting for this to be done, i had seen rumours on the net but its good to know its real

Now that i see actual photo of digipak, i gotta say i like old colours much more