Your controversial NIN opinions

Your controversial NIN opinions

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11/27/10 8:04 PM
RhettButler member Shipwrecked and Comatose Joined: 06/01/09 Location: Cardassia Prime Posts: 15,653	gaaira posted: RhettButler posted: Robbie Williams and the Prodigy are not played on the same stations to the same audience. you're wrong, at the time they pretty much were. I told you that I was going to stop engaging with you in this conversation in this thread. We both made our arguments, and that is that. But I would like to respond to this one last comment you made. I don't know where you live, maybe in other parts of the world, terrestrial radio is different, so I will give you the benefit of the doubt. That said, in the US, I can assure you that Nine Inch Nails and/or The Prodigy were never played on the same stations as Robbie Williams. In the States, Robbie Williams would be played alongside bands like Matchbox 20, Sting, etc, to an adult contemporary audience. Nine Inch Nails, on the other hand, would be played on modern-rock stations, alongside bands like Stone Temple Pilots, Smashing Pumpkins, etc. If you want to respond to this post, please do so by PM. I apologize to the board and the mods for my participation in this boorish exchange. Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 11/27/2010 08:11PM by RhettButler.
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11/27/10 8:21 PM
rossthfc member Joined: 04/10/10 Posts: 83	Agree with Rhett here. NIN's songs are much less industrial than the likes of Skinny Puppy, and contain more of an element of pop to them - they are much more 'listenable' than the rest of them.
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11/29/10 8:15 AM
thrasherscolin member What Shadows We Are Joined: 03/05/09 Posts: 1,574	I sometimes forget that half the songs on Year Zero exist. Trent's noise layering on La Mer was too distracting from the piano. Starfuckers Inc. should have stayed a TDTWWA B-side Home is the best song from the With Teeth era
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11/29/10 8:39 AM
scott_pawsey member Just zeroes and ones Joined: 09/03/08 Location: Ontario - Canada Posts: 4,226	thrasherscolin posted: I sometimes forget that half the songs on Year Zero exist. Trent's noise layering on La Mer was too distracting from the piano. Starfuckers Inc. should have stayed a TDTWWA B-side Home is the best song from the With Teeth era That's what's wonderful about it, though. It's a great blend, the song isn't just about the piano.
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11/29/10 2:27 PM
OnslaughtSix member Oozing of Onslaughttitude Joined: 12/03/07 Location: In front of my computer Posts: 1,708	phicry7220 posted: Hurt with Bowie '95 is better than the original Do love me that there track. RhettButler posted: "Getting Smaller" was the only dud, IMHO. I fucking love Getting Smaller. The verses are retarded but you can't resist its energy. RhettButler posted: In general, NIN's music is far more accessible than any "industrial" band that you mentioned. Maybe Skinny Puppy had a song here or there that could receive airplay, but overall, PHM is going to apeal to a mass auidence the way VIVIsectVI would not. That's 'cuz VIVIsectVI is a crappy album in general. (Actually, I'm of the opinion that there is no overall "good" Skinny Puppy album. There are just several songs off each album that are awesome, and many that are not.)
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11/30/10 6:57 AM
BenAkenobi member 999998 Joined: 04/13/08 Location: Chekhov Posts: 2,080	OnslaughtSix posted: RhettButler posted: In general, NIN's music is far more accessible than any "industrial" band that you mentioned. Maybe Skinny Puppy had a song here or there that could receive airplay, but overall, PHM is going to apeal to a mass auidence the way VIVIsectVI would not. That's 'cuz VIVIsectVI is a crappy album in general. (Actually, I'm of the opinion that there is no overall "good" Skinny Puppy album. There are just several songs off each album that are awesome, and many that are not.) Mythmaker is
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11/30/10 11:07 AM
Reconfigure member Joined: 10/08/10 Location: Houston Posts: 15	I can't get into a lot of new stuff. Starting with With Teeth, the sounds seem to be lower tech, and overall just less "productiony," which I don't really like as much. The drums sound very live on the new stuff, even more so than previous albums where live drum recordings were actually used... probably because of different snare sounds and more cymbals -- not sure, I'm not a drummer. It would be really nice, in my opinion, if TR went back to synth-based stuff, with some guitars still in there somewhere. If his future NIN plans don't include touring, this might be a better idea -- IF he actually wants to do it. Playing shows including new songs with 10 synth tracks probably isn't very good tour-wise, and hasn't really been since the early 90s, unless you aren't an actual band. Because I'm a fan of catchier-sounding music that tends to have really significant content or messages, I tend to like the first three albums (including Broken) most. I guess it just depends on what TR likes doing most creatively.
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11/30/10 11:44 AM
Sheepdean member Thug aim Joined: 11/27/07 Location: London Posts: 2,146	Reconfigure posted: It would be really nice, in my opinion, if TR went back to synth-based stuff, with some guitars still in there somewhere. Am I the only person who downloaded The Slip or something?
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11/30/10 11:53 AM
yesusgearfly member Joined: 02/11/10 Posts: 20	Uhm... The slip is probably my favourite NIN release!
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11/30/10 1:57 PM
Churchy member The Great Destroyer Joined: 11/22/08 Location: UK Norwich%2FCambridge Posts: 1,430	And All That Could Have Been. Whilst good, it isn't as amazing as everyone says it is Reconfigure posted: Because I'm a fan of catchier-sounding music that tends to have really significant content or messages, I tend to like the first three albums (including Broken) most. I guess it just depends on what TR likes doing most creatively. You need to go back and listen to The Slip. Head Down is actually one of the most deep songs in terms of content and message that Trent has ever done. At least to me anyway!
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11/30/10 2:38 PM
freakish777 member Joined: 03/21/08 Posts: 1,002	I second (or third) Kinda I Want To was better as a demo than on PHM. I'm not sure I'd agree with Twist being better than Ringfinger. This is the best NIN live song performed.
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11/30/10 2:48 PM
RhettButler member Shipwrecked and Comatose Joined: 06/01/09 Location: Cardassia Prime Posts: 15,653	yesusgearfly posted: Uhm... The slip is probably my favourite NIN release! I think it's an underrated album, love it.
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12/01/10 5:52 AM
gaaira member hollow Joined: 06/07/09 Location: The precipice of defeat Posts: 2,442	Year Zero remix was shit just like most remixes since with teeth and nowhere near the past great remix albums OnslaughtSix posted: I fucking love Getting Smaller. The verses are retarded but you can't resist its energy. i've always kinda thought that, like it too BenAkenobi posted: Mythmaker is mythmaker was a step into the future, ogre himself said it was the new too dark park
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12/01/10 6:13 AM
OnslaughtSix member Oozing of Onslaughttitude Joined: 12/03/07 Location: In front of my computer Posts: 1,708	Sheepdean posted: Reconfigure posted: It would be really nice, in my opinion, if TR went back to synth-based stuff, with some guitars still in there somewhere. Am I the only person who downloaded The Slip or something? Aww, c'mon, man. The Slip is a "band" album. Every song in that sucker is obviously tailored to having the live band play it. All the live bass, all the cruddy guitar lines (Discipline is seriously the only good guitar line in that album. I am not kidding. All the other ones sound like Finck's guitar is farting.) and 90% of the drums are live. Except for those fillery instrumentals. And Lights In The Sky which is the most boring NIN song ever, conceptually speaking. (And the lyrics are meh.)
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12/01/10 7:04 AM
scott_pawsey member Just zeroes and ones Joined: 09/03/08 Location: Ontario - Canada Posts: 4,226	OnslaughtSix posted: Sheepdean posted: Reconfigure posted: It would be really nice, in my opinion, if TR went back to synth-based stuff, with some guitars still in there somewhere. Am I the only person who downloaded The Slip or something? Aww, c'mon, man. The Slip is a "band" album. Every song in that sucker is obviously tailored to having the live band play it. All the live bass, all the cruddy guitar lines (Discipline is seriously the only good guitar line in that album. I am not kidding. All the other ones sound like Finck's guitar is farting.) and 90% of the drums are live. Except for those fillery instrumentals. And Lights In The Sky which is the most boring NIN song ever, conceptually speaking. (And the lyrics are meh.) There's a difference between opinions and bashing, this is getting a bit too close to that second one. Also, I happen to think that those "fillery instrumentals" are the highlight of album.
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12/01/10 11:30 AM
sorrow666 member Joined: 11/11/10 Location: grand rapids%2Cmi Posts: 29	I didn't care to much for "A perfect Drug".
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12/01/10 11:46 AM
Fluxx member Fluxx Joined: 11/28/07 Location: London Posts: 102	BenAkenobi posted: God Given and Capital G are among the best nin songs ever A-fucking-men
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12/01/10 11:52 AM
Fluxx member Fluxx Joined: 11/28/07 Location: London Posts: 102	OnslaughtSix posted: phicry7220 posted: Hurt with Bowie '95 is better than the original Do love me that there track. RhettButler posted: "Getting Smaller" was the only dud, IMHO. I fucking love Getting Smaller. The verses are retarded but you can't resist its energy. RhettButler posted: In general, NIN's music is far more accessible than any "industrial" band that you mentioned. Maybe Skinny Puppy had a song here or there that could receive airplay, but overall, PHM is going to apeal to a mass auidence the way VIVIsectVI would not. That's 'cuz VIVIsectVI is a crappy album in general. (Actually, I'm of the opinion that there is no overall "good" Skinny Puppy album. There are just several songs off each album that are awesome, and many that are not.) Totally an aside here, but I thought Too Dark Park was and still is a fucking great Skinny Puppy album, beginning to end. Shits all over Pretty Hate Machine, so I think. But he deviates, off with his head. And out.
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12/01/10 4:09 PM
Desensitized member Joined: 12/28/09 Posts: 6	HTDA bores the hell out of me except for Fur Lined. The Limitless Potential is the only remix album I can listen to all the way through without going completely insane. I want a reworked version of Complication where the lead part isn't the only thing making the song. Its a phenomenal riff but not worthy of 2 and a half minutes. (maybe not controversial) I can only stand modwheelmood's version of The Great Destroyer. The originals breakdown at the end is a waste of time in my opinion.
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12/01/10 10:34 PM
CharmlessMan member Joined: 05/29/08 Location: Clock Town%2CTermina Posts: 15,033	Churchy posted: And All That Could Have Been. Whilst good, it isn't as amazing as everyone says it is Agreed. I rarely watch. Too many songs stick too close to their album counterparts. BYIT is still my fave.
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12/02/10 2:02 AM
Sheepdean member Thug aim Joined: 11/27/07 Location: London Posts: 2,146	CharmlessMan posted: Churchy posted: And All That Could Have Been. Whilst good, it isn't as amazing as everyone says it is Agreed. I rarely watch. Too many songs stick too close to their album counterparts. BYIT is still my fave. I thought Churchy was referring to the song
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12/02/10 2:47 PM
CharmlessMan member Joined: 05/29/08 Location: Clock Town%2CTermina Posts: 15,033	well shit....
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12/02/10 5:05 PM
RhettButler member Shipwrecked and Comatose Joined: 06/01/09 Location: Cardassia Prime Posts: 15,653	"And All That Could Have Been"-NIN's "Stairway."
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12/02/10 5:11 PM
Sheepdean member Thug aim Joined: 11/27/07 Location: London Posts: 2,146	RhettButler posted: "And All That Could Have Been"-NIN's "Stairway." You misspelt Zero-Sum
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12/02/10 5:46 PM
gaaira member hollow Joined: 06/07/09 Location: The precipice of defeat Posts: 2,442	Trent's best look was during the perfect drug era Fluxx posted: but I thought Too Dark Park was and still is a fucking great Skinny Puppy album, beginning to end. it is fucking unmatched, thats what it is. personally i've always been a great fan of the process as well OnslaughtSix posted: Every song in that sucker is obviously tailored to having the live band play it. All the live bass, all the cruddy guitar lines (Discipline is seriously the only good guitar line in that album. I am not kidding. spot on
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12/02/10 5:58 PM
gaaira member hollow Joined: 06/07/09 Location: The precipice of defeat Posts: 2,442	Robin Finck is not my favourite nin guitarist Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 12/02/2010 06:25PM by gaaira.
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12/02/10 6:02 PM
gaaira member hollow Joined: 06/07/09 Location: The precipice of defeat Posts: 2,442	i don't like the year zero cover that much, is that a hand or a shade or what ? Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/02/2010 06:27PM by gaaira.
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12/02/10 6:05 PM
YKWYA member All these moments...... Joined: 11/27/07 Posts: 1,142	gaaira, please use the 'edit' function. Thank you.
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12/02/10 6:30 PM
GlassInMyEyeGuy member Joined: 01/22/10 Posts: 139	I think that Atticus Ross should stay the hell away from NIN. I don't dislike his style, I just want no more of it.
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12/02/10 6:45 PM
Sheepdean member Thug aim Joined: 11/27/07 Location: London Posts: 2,146	GlassInMyEyeGuy posted: I think that Atticus Ross should stay the hell away from NIN. I don't dislike his style, I just want no more of it. What didn't you like about the last 4 albums?
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