BenAkenobi posted:
i'm really interested in how do you rate Starfuckers Inc
I don't, or rather I try not to at least >.> To go completely off tangent here for a minute, as far as I'm concerned ratings systems as a whole need to die. They allow stupid/lazy people to simply glance at an arbitrary score, that doesn't even necessarily reflect the review, and make a largely blind, horribly misinformed, snap judgment as to whether or not something is worth their time... It's simply a lousy system for measuring art, it's beyond outta control in the gaming industry, and, at the very least, sites like MetaCritic and GameRankings need to die a terrible death... By fire...
Personal rankings, on the other hand, I have less of an issue with. Just because one ranks something above something else doesn't mean they don't like the lowest ranked item. Case in point, I don't feel The Fragile is completely and utterly devoid of flaws, nor do I feel Pretty Hate Machine is terrible to the point of being unlistenable, I simply like all his other albums less than TF and more than PHM.
When I say The Downward Spiral is overrated, (
overhyped isn't even debatable), I'm not referring to an actual number, I'm talking in a general sense.
Nothing is as good as that album is made out to be and it's most certainly not without flaws. To reiterate, just because I make the statement that it's overrated and rank it second to last does
not mean that I don't like the album, I do, (
for the most part), I simply abhor the ridiculous amount of praise it gets and the pedestal it's put on, especially when The Slip, Ghosts I-IV, [With_Teeth], and even Year Zero on occasion are practically spat on by the same people who all but tout TDS as the next coming of Christ...
Now... <.< To answer your original question as best I can... I find it meh, now... I did really like it at first, but perhaps I listened to it too much. It also might have to do with the fact that I feel it's incredibly shallow compared to the rest of TF, which I imagine is the point of the song, but still. I feel that, along with No, You Don't, (
which I like a good deal more), it's rather out of place on the album. I'd also like to note that I'm damn near certain that No, You Don't, Starfuckers, Inc., and Not So Pretty Now are all shots at Brian Warner.
scott_pawsey posted:
God damn, Evasionist. That might be the most controversial list of opinions in here.
Yeah... -.- I figured my thoughts on TDS alone would pretty much "
win" me the topic, so to speak... I almost didn't post it, but it did feel pretty good gettin' that out >.> I guess one of the things that
really pisses me off are the people that want Reznor to release another DS... If it's not genuine, it
will suck, and if it is genuine? Well I think that's worse... I love TF, but the last thing I wanna see is Reznor revert back to a state of mind that pretty much wrecked his life, and I imagine damn near killed him, just so I have have my precious sequel... I'd rather see him continue to evolve.
seasonsinthesky posted:
now that is ace. the only things i didn't really agree with were about "Corona Radiata," "Ruiner" and "Hurt," but otherwise i'm with you on all of these points. emphasis on the last two i quoted, fo sho.
^.^ You could make your own list, I mean you now have someone to share the sniper fire with. By the way, I completely disagree with you on Underneath It All. I feel the song practically summarizes TF, and would have in fact been the perfect track to end the album on, even more so than And All That Could Have Been. <.<
